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Rogue:
Master swordsmith / Mind control tech* / sunfury protector
eviscerate* / nightblade / bluegill warrior
jungle panther / vanish / senjin shieldmasta*
reckless rocketeer / worgen infiltrator / mad bomber*
kobold geomancer / venture co. mercenary* / acidic swamp ooze
dark iron dwarf* / sap / fan of knives
spellbreaker / dark iron dwarf / backstab*
assassinate* / jungle panther / bloodfen raptor
abomination / stampeding kodo* / master of disguise
mind control tech / ancient watcher / sunwalker*
pint-sized summoner / bloodsail corsair / crazed alchemist*
faerie dragon* / lord of the arena / worgen infiltrator
sinister strike / chillwind yeti* / shiv
backstab / assassin's blade* / raid leader
earthen ring farseer* / dragonling mechanic / wolfrider
venture co. mercenary* / tauren warrior / ironfur grizzly
gurubashi berserker* / shiv / nightblade
stormwind champion* / silverback patriarch / archmage
tauren warrior / wisp / fan of knives*
sI: 7 agent* / questing adventurer / coldlight oracle
assassin's blade / sprint* / shadowstep
abusive sergeant / spellbreaker* / ogre magi
scarlet crusader* / silvermoon guardian / shadowstep
argent commander* / azure drake / gadgetzan auctioneer
sap / assassin's blade / tauren warrior*
eviscerate* / murloc raider / booty bay bodyguard
silvermoon guardian / mad bomber / shattered sun cleric*
young priestess* / lightwarden / alarm-o-bot
razorfen hunter* / stormpike commando / mad bomber
Coldlight oracle / questing adventurer* / abomination
Not sure where I'm going wrong in my drafts. The only class I've managed to get up to 7 and up is with mage. I do pretty terrible with every other class except paladin where I manage to barely make 4-6 on average.
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@Kishin2 I think I'm only seeing three minions with 1 or 2 mana cost. That seems like you are gonna be fighting from behind in most matches. I'm by no means an oracle on things Arena but it seems like you are setting yourself up to be screwed in the early game.
I'm not sure which particular picks you could have done otherwise, but I've started to focus a lot more on my mana curve and less on picking the best cards everytime, and have 7+ wins the last 3 out of 4 runs.
Here's what I would have picked differently: (this by no means suggests that what I would have done is correct)
Infiltrator over Mad bomber
Ooze over Venture Co. (This seems like the most obvious to me. Ooze is one of the cards that has highest priority for me)
Mad Bomber over Razoerfen hunter
Pint-size over Alchemyst
The fact that there really weren't a lot of good low cost minions to pick from means you should have picked the ones that were there.
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Played as Priest and had no Mind Control, Shadow Word: Death, Shadow Word: Pain, Northshire Cleric, Holy Smite, or Legendaries. I had three two cost minions (one of which was a loot hoarder) but a variety of three cost minions (going second much less painful). Oh - and one of my two cost minions (Mad Bomber) hurt me more throughout the entire thing. Never once killed an enemy minion, killed a 5-3 minion on my side once, and overall the RNG hit my side more than the other.
End record? 9-2. Still trying to figure out why some decks I consider worth 3 wins end up going the distance while others I believe to be 7+ win decks fizzle out around 4 wins. 0.o
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7-3 twice in a row with pally and shaman. 305 gold 40 dust total rewards from the 2. That eighth win is so major in terms of prize.
7-3 Shaman run on the back of 3 fire elementals. Surprising all-star was one of the 2 mana windfury cards. Worked out really well with the fire elementals, also allowed me to get a turn 4 win with a coined out amani berserker (stormforged axe to protect)
Currently 4-1 with another pally. No consecrations again! No aldor peacekeeper, but 2 argent protectors and 1 truesilver. Deck seems kinda meh, argent protector is a pretty ridiculous card though.
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Just went 2-3 with the worst Mage deck ever. My winrate with Mage before this run was 79% and I never did less than 5 wins.
Voodoo Doctor, Geomancer, Pint-Sized Summoner, Mogushan Warden... in a terrible mana curve, like 10 2-drops and 10 4-drops with a lonely Scarlet Crusader in between. I had multiple copies of the best control cards (flamestrike, blizzard, fireball, frostbolt) so all 5 games went to the end game, where my opponents kept topdecking decent minions while I was doing 2 damage per turn with Mogushan + fireblast. :D
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Well, that was rather easy^^ (although I started up with 0-1 after a terrible card draw in game1)
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that deck is just very nice^^
most of the games werent even close, I had early board control and somewhere between turn 8 and 11/12 I could finish them with some pyrodmg^^
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On November 28 2013 06:53 Zeon0 wrote:Well, that was rather easy^^ (although I started up with 0-1 after a terrible card draw in game1) that deck is just very nice^^ most of the games werent even close, I had early board control and somewhere between turn 8 and 11/12 I could finish them with some pyrodmg^^
Sexy mana curve. Great value cards aside from 2 or 3. How much gold did you get for the 8 wins?
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Went 8-2. This is the best deck I've had in around 2 weeks. Gave me a Golden Looter Hoarder, super OP.
Game 1: Lost to Priest with Shadowform, 4 Senjin and Mind Contol
Game 2: Lost to Druid with huge Taunters and about 4 Swipes
Game 3: Lost to another Mage late game with 2 freezing spells
5-drop: Azure Drake, 6: Ogre, 8: Molten Giant
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On November 28 2013 07:04 woodszilla wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 06:53 Zeon0 wrote:Well, that was rather easy^^ (although I started up with 0-1 after a terrible card draw in game1) that deck is just very nice^^ most of the games werent even close, I had early board control and somewhere between turn 8 and 11/12 I could finish them with some pyrodmg^^ Sexy mana curve. Great value cards aside from 2 or 3. How much gold did you get for the 8 wins?
I didnt know if I should retire at 8 (give the wins away) or go for 9. So I conceded the first match and tried to win the second, which I did. So I finished with 9-2. Rewards
2packs
golden Redemption
175 gold
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Mage:
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+ Show Spoiler +Pint-sized summoner* / Young priestess / Alarm-o-bot
Goldshire Footman / Wisp / Priestess of Elune*
Wisp / Southsea Deckhand* / Magma Rager
Arcane Missles* / Silvermoon Guardian / Raid Leader
Scarlet Crusader / Shieldbearer / Polymorph*
Polymorph / Bloodsail Raider / Water Elemental*
Scarlet Crusader* / Mogushan Warden/ Spiteful Smith
Mad Bomber / Amani Berserker* / Arcane Explosion
Ice Lance / Reckless Rocketeer / Lord of the Arena*
Imp Master* / Lightwarden / Arcane Golem
Raging Worgen* / Southsea Deckhand / Lord of the Arena
Faceless Manipulator / Ice Block / Molten Giant*
Spiteful Smith / Gurubashi Berserker* / Raging Worgen
Arcane Intellect / Youthful Brewmaster* / Abusive Sergeant
Mirror Entity / Ancient Brewmaster / Dragonling Mechanic*
Flamestrike* / Tauren Warrior / Novice Engineer
Dalaran Mage / Flamestrike* / Faerie Dragon
Frostwolf Warlord* / Mogu'shan Warden / Ice Lance
Jungle Panther* / Flamestrike / Ironforge Rifleman
Knife Juggler* / Injured Blademaster / Young Priestess
Acolyte of Pain* / Boulderfist Ogre / Sorcerer's Apprentice
Mana Wyrm / Bluegill Warrior / Ironbeak Owl*
Fireball* / Worgen Infiltrator / Silvermoon Guardian
Fireball* / Water Elemental / Scarlet Crusader
Dread Corsair / Fen Creeper* / Booty Bay Bodyguard
Frost Elemental / Wolfrider* / Goldshire Footman
Windfury Harpy / Chillwind Yeti* / Ogre Magi
Young Dragonhawk / Faerie Dragon / Acidic Swamp Ooze*
Novice Engineer* / Core Hound / Magma Rager
Murloc Tidecaller / Mind Control Tech* / Pint-sized Summoner
I felt pretty confident I could get at least 7 wins with this. Only managed to get 5. Not sure if I drafted poorly, played terribly, or was unlucky.
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Got deathwing in 3 different class decks =). Carried me in like 4 out of 8 games for three 8-3s (conceded last). Was pretty nervous but I managed to bait out like 3 assassinates/siphon souls/etc before I dropped it. conceded to the same guy twice in a row at 8-1 in my last run, bet he was pretty happy =).
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On November 28 2013 20:16 Kishin2 wrote:Mage: + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +Pint-sized summoner* / Young priestess / Alarm-o-bot
Goldshire Footman / Wisp / Priestess of Elune*
Wisp / Southsea Deckhand* / Magma Rager
Arcane Missles* / Silvermoon Guardian / Raid Leader
Scarlet Crusader / Shieldbearer / Polymorph*
Polymorph / Bloodsail Raider / Water Elemental*
Scarlet Crusader* / Mogushan Warden/ Spiteful Smith
Mad Bomber / Amani Berserker* / Arcane Explosion
Ice Lance / Reckless Rocketeer / Lord of the Arena*
Imp Master* / Lightwarden / Arcane Golem
Raging Worgen* / Southsea Deckhand / Lord of the Arena
Faceless Manipulator / Ice Block / Molten Giant*
Spiteful Smith / Gurubashi Berserker* / Raging Worgen
Arcane Intellect / Youthful Brewmaster* / Abusive Sergeant
Mirror Entity / Ancient Brewmaster / Dragonling Mechanic*
Flamestrike* / Tauren Warrior / Novice Engineer
Dalaran Mage / Flamestrike* / Faerie Dragon
Frostwolf Warlord* / Mogu'shan Warden / Ice Lance
Jungle Panther* / Flamestrike / Ironforge Rifleman
Knife Juggler* / Injured Blademaster / Young Priestess
Acolyte of Pain* / Boulderfist Ogre / Sorcerer's Apprentice
Mana Wyrm / Bluegill Warrior / Ironbeak Owl*
Fireball* / Worgen Infiltrator / Silvermoon Guardian
Fireball* / Water Elemental / Scarlet Crusader
Dread Corsair / Fen Creeper* / Booty Bay Bodyguard
Frost Elemental / Wolfrider* / Goldshire Footman
Windfury Harpy / Chillwind Yeti* / Ogre Magi
Young Dragonhawk / Faerie Dragon / Acidic Swamp Ooze*
Novice Engineer* / Core Hound / Magma Rager
Murloc Tidecaller / Mind Control Tech* / Pint-sized Summoner I felt pretty confident I could get at least 7 wins with this. Only managed to get 5. Not sure if I drafted poorly, played terribly, or was unlucky.
I think i would take faceless > molten and ancient brew > dragonling
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On November 28 2013 20:16 Kishin2 wrote:Mage: + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +Pint-sized summoner* / Young priestess / Alarm-o-bot
Goldshire Footman / Wisp / Priestess of Elune*
Wisp / Southsea Deckhand* / Magma Rager
Arcane Missles* / Silvermoon Guardian / Raid Leader
Scarlet Crusader / Shieldbearer / Polymorph*
Polymorph / Bloodsail Raider / Water Elemental*
Scarlet Crusader* / Mogushan Warden/ Spiteful Smith
Mad Bomber / Amani Berserker* / Arcane Explosion
Ice Lance / Reckless Rocketeer / Lord of the Arena*
Imp Master* / Lightwarden / Arcane Golem
Raging Worgen* / Southsea Deckhand / Lord of the Arena
Faceless Manipulator / Ice Block / Molten Giant*
Spiteful Smith / Gurubashi Berserker* / Raging Worgen
Arcane Intellect / Youthful Brewmaster* / Abusive Sergeant
Mirror Entity / Ancient Brewmaster / Dragonling Mechanic*
Flamestrike* / Tauren Warrior / Novice Engineer
Dalaran Mage / Flamestrike* / Faerie Dragon
Frostwolf Warlord* / Mogu'shan Warden / Ice Lance
Jungle Panther* / Flamestrike / Ironforge Rifleman
Knife Juggler* / Injured Blademaster / Young Priestess
Acolyte of Pain* / Boulderfist Ogre / Sorcerer's Apprentice
Mana Wyrm / Bluegill Warrior / Ironbeak Owl*
Fireball* / Worgen Infiltrator / Silvermoon Guardian
Fireball* / Water Elemental / Scarlet Crusader
Dread Corsair / Fen Creeper* / Booty Bay Bodyguard
Frost Elemental / Wolfrider* / Goldshire Footman
Windfury Harpy / Chillwind Yeti* / Ogre Magi
Young Dragonhawk / Faerie Dragon / Acidic Swamp Ooze*
Novice Engineer* / Core Hound / Magma Rager
Murloc Tidecaller / Mind Control Tech* / Pint-sized Summoner I felt pretty confident I could get at least 7 wins with this. Only managed to get 5. Not sure if I drafted poorly, played terribly, or was unlucky.
i agree with Zeon. Faceless Manipulator seems like a much better pick, although Dragonling vs Brewmaster is a bit more open.
Still, I feel like this deck should have gotten 7+ wins. It's got a decent curve and value cards in general. Of course sometimes you just get unlucky and run into people with 9-0 decks and get crushed so it might not be because you played bad. But if you keep getting bad results it's probably more to do with your play than your drafting which seems decent.
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8-3. Got rewarded 1 pack, 165 (wth) gold and 50 dust. Eh!
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stupid bullshit, just drafted a priest deck and didnt get a single shadowword and no mind control fuuuuu
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0-2 start into the dream:
http://imgur.com/4Qln5aW
Got either coin or another cheap spell into fast defias ringleader almost every game. Most of em couldn't handle the aggro after that. Probably should've been 8-0 but I super messed up some critical turns the first two games.
Always seem to do way better with rogue than warrior even though they play the same way. Think I just like the rogue class ability in arena more (especially when I get deadly poison almost every run).
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Just got to 8 wins and 0 losses with this deck, which I basically had no hopes for being better than at most 5 wins. Almost zero spells, but I guess the creatures are quite effecient trading wise. Can anyone explain how I went 8-0 with this? Doesn't make sense to me. Was it luck or is this deck decent?
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 29 2013 04:34 Snaiil wrote:Just got to 8 wins and 0 losses with this deck, which I basically had no hopes for being better than at most 5 wins. Almost zero spells, but I guess the creatures are quite effecient trading wise. Can anyone explain how I went 8-0 with this? Doesn't make sense to me. Was it luck or is this deck decent?
Wow you must have really good luck most of the time. As long as I draft 1 holy nova and 1 mc I consider that pretty lucky and on the way to likely 8 wins as priest. Now considering how almost all your creature cards have great value it's not really much wonder you went 8-0. Im guessing the mind vision picks were pretty debatable though, not really a big fan of that card.
More than half the time I dont get any mcs or holy novas and I can still usually get 8 wins as long its mage/priest/pally. A lot of the time with mage/pally too I don't get any aoes or true silvers.
I'd rate that as a super lucky draft if it was myself ;x. Only problem is a bit top heavy and not enough 2's but that's probably caus of the mind vision picks, probably wouldn't have picked priestess of elune either unless the other choices were really garbo. Over all I'd rate it highly above average/ almost for sure 8 wins.
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On November 29 2013 05:06 Nibbler89 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 29 2013 04:34 Snaiil wrote:Just got to 8 wins and 0 losses with this deck, which I basically had no hopes for being better than at most 5 wins. Almost zero spells, but I guess the creatures are quite effecient trading wise. Can anyone explain how I went 8-0 with this? Doesn't make sense to me. Was it luck or is this deck decent? Wow you must have really good luck most of the time. As long as I draft 1 holy nova and 1 mc I consider that pretty lucky and on the way to likely 8 wins as priest. Now considering how almost all your creature cards have great value it's not really much wonder you went 8-0. Im guessing the mind vision picks were pretty debatable though, not really a big fan of that card. More than half the time I dont get any mcs or holy novas and I can still usually get 8 wins as long its mage/priest/pally. A lot of the time with mage/pally too I don't get any aoes or true silvers. I'd rate that as a super lucky draft if it was myself ;x. Only problem is a bit top heavy and not enough 2's but that's probably caus of the mind vision picks, probably wouldn't have picked priestess of elune either unless the other choices were really garbo. Over all I'd rate it highly above average/ almost for sure 8 wins.
Definitly agree, all very good cards and a decent mana curve. Five 2-drops seems fine, as long as you use your mulligan well. You only need to hit one of them anyway.
On another note: I just had a draft with a total of one 2-drop and two 1-drops popping up. And of course the two 1-drops were on the same pick. Meh, who needs minions anyway, I got a bunch of weapons so I'll just axe my way to victory 
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On November 29 2013 11:12 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:06 Nibbler89 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 29 2013 04:34 Snaiil wrote:Just got to 8 wins and 0 losses with this deck, which I basically had no hopes for being better than at most 5 wins. Almost zero spells, but I guess the creatures are quite effecient trading wise. Can anyone explain how I went 8-0 with this? Doesn't make sense to me. Was it luck or is this deck decent? Wow you must have really good luck most of the time. As long as I draft 1 holy nova and 1 mc I consider that pretty lucky and on the way to likely 8 wins as priest. Now considering how almost all your creature cards have great value it's not really much wonder you went 8-0. Im guessing the mind vision picks were pretty debatable though, not really a big fan of that card. More than half the time I dont get any mcs or holy novas and I can still usually get 8 wins as long its mage/priest/pally. A lot of the time with mage/pally too I don't get any aoes or true silvers. I'd rate that as a super lucky draft if it was myself ;x. Only problem is a bit top heavy and not enough 2's but that's probably caus of the mind vision picks, probably wouldn't have picked priestess of elune either unless the other choices were really garbo. Over all I'd rate it highly above average/ almost for sure 8 wins. Definitly agree, all very good cards and a decent mana curve. Five 2-drops seems fine, as long as you use your mulligan well. You only need to hit one of them anyway. On another note: I just had a draft with a total of one 2-drop and two 1-drops popping up. And of course the two 1-drops were on the same pick. Meh, who needs minions anyway, I got a bunch of weapons so I'll just axe my way to victory
I have pretty shitty luck and if you cant play a 2 you can get behind really bad against a good starting hand. And if your starting hand is all like 4+ and you don't hit a 2 or a 3 its pretty much gg. Plus it increases your chance of a "good starting" hand like 1-2-3 or 2-2-3-4 and likewise if your opponent gets a bad hand you get a free win. and since in arena inevitably people don't draft good mana curves it can add to your wins.
I just try to minimize the chances of that happening to me and maximize chance of it happening to them. Just my opinion though.
T.T another pally deck with 0 consecrates and 0 true silvers becoming the norm.
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