Girl sues college for her unemployment

On August 04 2009 11:32 qrs wrote:
Apparently they did not do enough to help her find a job. She wants her tuition back.
link

Even the US, I don't think this one will fly. Still, where else on Earth would someone even consider such a lawsuit?

On August 04 2009 11:33 Slaughter)BiO wrote:
There will always be people looking to get stuff the easy way. The US system just allows for it.

On August 04 2009 11:46 Manifesto7 wrote:
If the college promised to help with finding jobs for graduates, and indeed uses that as a way to attract students, then why should they not be held accountable when they do not? In both the linked article and the BBC article, there are precious few details as to the claim, basically a he said she said argument. In the end, if it turns out they did not meet their commitments to helping her, then she has a case.

On August 04 2009 11:48 Kwark wrote:

Way to deflate any drama out of the story with reason....
Might as well close this now. No fun to be had here.

On August 04 2009 11:48 Slaughter)BiO wrote:
It depends on what they promised from what they actually delivered. I don't know anything about this college but some advertise how like 99% of their grads have jobs and they will help you get a job. If they promised a lot and delivered shit then yea she might have a case for false advertising/hope/w/e.

On August 04 2009 11:48 Kwark wrote:

Way to deflate any drama out of the story with reason....
Might as well close this now. No fun to be had here.

On August 04 2009 11:48 Kwark wrote:

Way to deflate any drama out of the story with reason....
Might as well close this now. No fun to be had here.

On August 04 2009 11:55 HuskyTheHusky wrote:


Seriously WTF is up with Archons on this site? I think they are just naturally more funny than, say, a zergling (Zealots are always hilarious BTW).

I was actually hoping for a little more drama to be honest. But all you jerks have to actually go and read/analyze the article to formulate an educated opinion.

Very disappointing

On August 04 2009 11:55 Brett wrote:

Never fear; there's plenty of idiocy in the "Koreans beat the shit out of some dude" thread!

On August 04 2009 12:08 Manifesto7 wrote:


Very true. Maybe if we all work together, logic and reasoning can be the new TL meme in the general section.

On August 04 2009 12:08 Manifesto7 wrote:


Very true. Maybe if we all work together, logic and reasoning can be the new TL meme in the general section.

On August 04 2009 11:38 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Well I think this particular story is blown a little out of proportion. Sure, I think its silly to sue the school for your inability to find a job, but at the same time you dont know the whole story. America loves drama stories and they are trying to turn this into one as well.

I can kind of see why she might be upset, if they did indeed promise her a service that they simply didnt provide. I just think this will be one of the stories that people read the title but not the actual story.

I'm not saying I agree with her here I just 100% think this one is skewed by the media.

On August 04 2009 12:14 Aegraen wrote:


Since when is a promise a binding contract?

On August 04 2009 12:16 Kwark wrote:

When that promise is in the form of an advertisment and the consumer parts with their money.

On August 04 2009 12:18 Avidkeystamper wrote:
If I could have 3 wishes, one would be the ability to slap anyone who makes stupid lawsuits as much as I want.

On August 04 2009 12:21 Aegraen wrote:


She bought with her money an education. She didn't buy a job, or employment.

On August 04 2009 12:21 Aegraen wrote:


She bought with her money an education. She didn't buy a job, or employment.

On August 04 2009 12:24 funkie wrote:
No worries, he'd have us to back him up!

On August 04 2009 13:23 sdvc wrote:
If you read this story on cnn she has a 2.7 gpa

Her degree is in "business administration degree in information technology"

Not really hard for me to connect the dots here

Plus she's 27 and just graduated, she probably doesn't have any work experience

As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. But Monroe's career-services department has put forth insufficient effort to help her secure employment, she claims.

"They're supposed to say, 'I got this student, her attendance is good, her GPA is all right -- can you interview this person?' They're not doing that," she said.

She suggested that Monroe's Office of Career Advancement shows preferential treatment to students with excellent grades. "They favor more toward students that got a 4.0. They help them more out with the job placement," she said.

On August 04 2009 13:57 Kurosaki wrote:

I got a 2.7 GPA but they denied my interview for medical school. Some other kid with a 4.0 GPA got the interview. I don't know why they would favor those types of people over me. My attendance is solid as a rock! That has to be a big plus.

I will be responsible for repaying my loan even if I do not graduate, am not satisfied with my education, or do not get a bill.

On August 04 2009 12:24 funkie wrote:
No worries, he'd have us to back him up!

On August 04 2009 12:01 MaZza[KIS] wrote:


Years of posting on this forum transmute your mind. If you've been on TL.net long enough you learn to read the general course of threads from the OP. You're bound to stumble on something witty at some point besides the general "OMG NOOB AMERICAN TRYING TO GET MONEY, DIE IN PLANE CRASH YOU FAT HAMBURGER".

On August 05 2009 10:58 DrainX wrote:

It was actually "DIE IN LONG BUILDING, FAT HAMBURGER"

On August 05 2009 21:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i saw the fattest girl today

On August 05 2009 21:13 ghostWriter wrote:


I looked it up and it was
"fuckign maerican
die in twin tower fat hamburger"

On August 05 2009 10:58 DrainX wrote:

It was actually "DIE IN LONG BUILDING, FAT HAMBURGER"

On August 05 2009 21:13 ghostWriter wrote:


I looked it up and it was
"fuckign maerican
die in twin tower fat hamburger"

On August 06 2009 01:48 ninjafetus wrote:
This is amazing:
http://www.theskichannel.com/news/gear/20090804/The-Ski-Channel-Offers-Job-to-Jobless-Graduate-Suing-Monroe-College

On August 06 2009 01:41 uiCk wrote:

wheres this from?

On August 06 2009 01:48 ninjafetus wrote:
This is amazing:
http://www.theskichannel.com/news/gear/20090804/The-Ski-Channel-Offers-Job-to-Jobless-Graduate-Suing-Monroe-College

On August 04 2009 11:46 Manifesto7 wrote:
If the college promised to help with finding jobs for graduates, and indeed uses that as a way to attract students, then why should they not be held accountable when they do not? In both the linked article and the BBC article, there are precious few details as to the claim, basically a he said she said argument. In the end, if it turns out they did not meet their commitments to helping her, then she has a case.

On August 06 2009 01:48 ninjafetus wrote:
This is amazing:
http://www.theskichannel.com/news/gear/20090804/The-Ski-Channel-Offers-Job-to-Jobless-Graduate-Suing-Monroe-College

On August 04 2009 11:51 Manifesto7 wrote:


Sorry Let me rephrase that.

OMG WTF AMERICA CHOBO COUNTRY RAGE RAGE RAGE

/righteous indignation

On September 01 2009 03:28 XsebT wrote:
"Paying for going to college" is LOL HAHA LOL.

With love from Denmark.

On August 06 2009 04:17 StorrZerg wrote:


really thats all shes getting paid? kinda blows

On September 01 2009 04:02 Eniram wrote:

It may cost money but our colleges are some of the best in the world so its worth it to me.

On August 04 2009 11:46 Manifesto7 wrote:
If the college promised to help with finding jobs for graduates, and indeed uses that as a way to attract students, then why should they not be held accountable when they do not? In both the linked article and the BBC article, there are precious few details as to the claim, basically a he said she said argument. In the end, if it turns out they did not meet their commitments to helping her, then she has a case.

On September 01 2009 14:19 MuffinDude wrote:

To make it even worse, 70,000? Wtf? Thats like how much you pay in 4 years at a top tier college like stanford. Really? How the hell do you spend 70,000? What the hell did she do? Spend 20 dollars per meal?.

On September 01 2009 14:19 MuffinDude wrote:
I just read into it more and I have one thing to say. WOW. I'm still in high school, but one thing I do know is that 2.7 gpa is terrible. Thats worse than my school's unweighted gpa average. She blames that her college isn't landing her with any interviews but really? Thats like saying how its complete bullshit that she didn't get into harvard with 2.7 gpa and absolutely no extra curriculum.

To make it even worse, 70,000? Wtf? Thats like how much you pay in 4 years at a top tier college like stanford. Really? How the hell do you spend 70,000? What the hell did she do? Spend 20 dollars per meal? She apparently didn't even work part time and all. And she didn't do much in class and got her grade mostly through group work. Are you fcking serious? At her last year, she probably was like oh, i'm graduating, time to look for a job. She could of at least gotten internship for experience, but she doesn't have any. She then goes on blaming the college when its pratically impossible to find a job right now. There are people who spend years repaying their tuition fees and they usually only hold part time jobs coming out of college. Many people have the same degree as she does and have a much better gpa then 2.7 and yet they are still jobless. Many already have had a job and lost their job and are losing their homes. She really needs to wake up to the current situation and not act like a snob.

The lawsuit would be much better if a person was to have great grades and spent at least a year looking for jobs after graduation.

On September 01 2009 14:33 JeeJee wrote:


...
what?
edit: i just re-read your whole post again and i .. i just don't know if you're serious
i hope not

On September 01 2009 14:36 Kwark wrote:

Her point was that the careers office is completely ignoring her and instead focussing on people with better grades who they can help more easily. This makes sense for the college because if you devote a day to getting interviews for top candidates you'll have more success than spending the same time getting interviews for mediocre ones. But if they both pay the same fees for the same service then the careers office should put the effort in with her, even if it's a waste of time. Her case is that they took her money then wrote her off, not that she's not a write off.

On September 01 2009 14:46 MuffinDude wrote:
It might not also be the fact that their ignoring her, but the employers ignoring her request for interview.

On September 01 2009 03:20 Slithe wrote:
In case anyone still cares, I found a short article relating to this story. It basically talks about Monroe College and it's questionable practices.

http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/money-trail/2009/08/12/sue-school?page=0,0

I'm inclined to say that this is a case of exploitation, not just another retard looking to win a ridiculous lawsuit.

On September 01 2009 14:46 MuffinDude wrote:


Come on, 70,000. Thats a lot for some random college in the middle of nowhere. And i read in places that she did absolutely nothing to get a job until graduation. She just expected that after graduation she could get a job. When my parents lost their jobs, it took them at least half a year to get another job. Finding jobs these days isn't easy.



It doesn't help the case the she has a well below average gpa and it is only like 4 months after her graduation. I'll be surprised if you land a job immediately after graduation. It might not also be the fact that their ignoring her, but the employers ignoring her request for interview.

On September 01 2009 15:11 Slithe wrote:


I think you're being a little too ignorant of the actual situation here. We aren't talking about a normal school that she's suing here. You should first read the link that I posted on the previous page.

You also have probably led a largely convenient life, and have suffered little hardships compared to the people who typically get exploited by these supposed institutes of higher education. Imagine this kind of scenario:

A person who's grown up in less than ideal conditions, is finally looking to make something of himself and improve his life by getting a better education. His local neighborhood college is advertising just that kind of an opportunity, and also promises to help him find a job afterward. So the man decides to make that 4 year commitment, taking on some student loans in the process. Little did he know what kind of a shitty education he was getting, and how little he was actually learning in the way of applicable job skills.

So where does the man stand now? Eight semesters of college at $5000/semester, 4 years of time wasted, and the bill is only growing as the student loans keep going unpaid. When you look at it like that, $70k doesn't look so unreasonable anymore.

The college is using deceitful tricks to lure naive individuals into their institution and rob them of their cash. One could say that it's the woman's fault for being tricked, but I would hope that we as a society have advanced enough to not endorse such exploitation.

On September 01 2009 15:31 MuffinDude wrote:


Yes the college being corrupt could be true, but from the general gist of it, this person is just some lazy idiot who doesn't want to try to get a job. I did some reading into it and she apparently didn't do much in classes and was actually quite lazy. She could at least hold part time job to relieve the burden but apparently she didn't get any part time jobs. My parents came from less than ideal condition, as they grew up in china during 1950s to 1960s. During the time, my parents couldn't go to college because the colleges were closed to applicants, and when the college entrance exams opened up again, they worked their butt off, got into college, and managed to go to America where they are living a fairly good life. I just think that its insulting that you are grouping this kind of person with many of other people like my parents who worked their butt off to get somewhere in their life. American's living standard is actually far better than many other countries and as a result most Americans don't know what a real hardships are like (now the difference isn't that big, but when you compare now America to then China, it is a big difference).

The only thing that is being debated about this case is whether she will win. The only way that she will win this case is if the court sees that the college did nothing to help he get a job.

On September 01 2009 15:46 Slithe wrote:


Is it possible for you to link the reading you did regarding her time in school? From the bit of research I did, nearly all the news stories are hardly longer than 2 paragraphs and lacked much in the way of real details.

If this were a story about someone suing a reputable school, I'd call bullshit on it. However, this Monroe College is looking quite shady to me.

I know this girl personally, and she is taking this too far. Although she graduated with a Bachelors degree, she didn't do the hard work that is required. She was on a team of 4-6 individuals at times, and she did nothing at all. She got the credit because it was a team effort. Everyone gets the same grade.

On September 01 2009 04:02 Eniram wrote:

It may cost money but our colleges are some of the best in the world so its worth it to me.