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MrHoon
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United Kingdom2674 Posts
On July 05 2009 17:24 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 17:22 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
I would be interested to know the source of this.
Amusing though this is, it really shows the danger of an inadequate understanding of the history of one's own country. Considering the horrific brutality inflicted on Korea during the colonial period, one has to wonder at the mindset of Japanese people who would parade that flag around in Seoul with the express intention of provoking a reaction. Considering that the point of this seems to be to draw a hostile reaction from the Koreans, I don't suppose it is inadequate understand of history, just pure stupidity. They were lucky not to have been beaten to pulps.
Perhaps, but I was giving them the benefit of the doubt on the more serious moral issue and assuming that they had little, or perhaps a confused and inadequate, understanding of the true horrors inflicted on Korea by soldiers and other authorities acting under that flag.
If one were to fully understand the relevant historical situation and then parade around Seoul attempting to provoke a reaction with that flag, that would be deeply reprehensible.
I think it is far more likely that these people are simply ignorant.
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MrHoon
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On July 05 2009 18:22 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 17:24 Ecael wrote:On July 05 2009 17:22 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
I would be interested to know the source of this.
Amusing though this is, it really shows the danger of an inadequate understanding of the history of one's own country. Considering the horrific brutality inflicted on Korea during the colonial period, one has to wonder at the mindset of Japanese people who would parade that flag around in Seoul with the express intention of provoking a reaction. Considering that the point of this seems to be to draw a hostile reaction from the Koreans, I don't suppose it is inadequate understand of history, just pure stupidity. They were lucky not to have been beaten to pulps. Perhaps, but I was giving them the benefit of the doubt on the more serious moral issue and assuming that they had little, or perhaps a confused and inadequate, understanding of the true horrors inflicted on Korea by soldiers and other authorities acting under that flag. If one were to fully understand the relevant historical situation and then parade around Seoul attempting to provoke a reaction with that flag, that would be deeply reprehensible. I think it is far more likely that these people are simply ignorant.
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“우린 이상한 일을 벌여 일본인과 한국인으로부터 비판을 받았다”며 “사실 이런 일을 벌이면 어떤 영향이 있을지 몰랐다. 역사 공부가 서툴렀다. 일본과 한국의 역사를 몰랐다”
Arbiter is correct, the two women did say they "Should've understood the history more, we were too ignorant to understand." They were very rash. They also pleaded "please don't see us as what the japanese population is, it was our mistake"
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On July 05 2009 18:06 motbob wrote:
Koreans fucking hate the Japanese. It's the one thing I can't stand about the Koreans I know... they just cannot let go of their feelings towards Japan and they have about 10 different examples of the Japanese government directly trying to make Korea's situation harder. I've heard different Korean friends from different schools use the same arguments, verbatim, about this random island that Japan lays claim to and should give to Korea.
Don't give me this shit about how Koreans are full of tolerance and love and the Japanese are full of hate. In my experience it's exactly the opposite (although someone in Japan or with lots of Japanese friends would have to shed light on this further.)
I didn't realize your Korean friends are the voice of my people. And I didn't know you need to be friends with Japanese people to be the voice of them.
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On July 05 2009 18:06 motbob wrote:
Koreans fucking hate the Japanese. It's the one thing I can't stand about the Koreans I know... they just cannot let go of their feelings towards Japan and they have about 10 different examples of the Japanese government directly trying to make Korea's situation harder. I've heard different Korean friends from different schools use the same arguments, verbatim, about this random island that Japan lays claim to and should give to Korea.
Don't give me this shit about how Koreans are full of tolerance and love and the Japanese are full of hate. In my experience it's exactly the opposite (although someone in Japan or with lots of Japanese friends would have to shed light on this further.)
there's a difference between hating and refuting unfounded claims about land ownership. in general, the only people that actually "hate" the japanese are the very elderly, who either have experienced the japanese colonization first hand or are directly related to someone who did. later generations don't really have an opinion on the japanese.
seriously, "shit about how Koreans are full of tolerance and love"? you're right, we're all a bunch of animals who aren't capable of anything but hate. we should stop being rivals with Japan in sports and let them have our land.
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So there is an uncensored version of the pictures after all.
Seems like there is a Youtube video too judging from the pictures?
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so they went all the way to korea to insult them , then as they saw noone took offense they decided to apologize??? makes sense.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On July 05 2009 18:51 LuckyOne wrote:
so they went all the way to korea to insult them , then as they saw noone took offense they decided to apologize??? makes sense.
no one taking offense might be kinda pushing it. It was more like nobody cared. Basically I will make turn this into a scenario so TL can understand it better
White Guy: LOLOLOLOLOL U NIGGERS LOL ENJOY UR SHITTY DAY
Black Guy: lol okay whatever
White Guy: ... srsly?
Black Guy: Yeah whatever.
White Guy: can we b frendz? i sry
Black Guy: ???????
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Awesome thread + perfect OP
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Cute story but anyway, anti troll ON
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On July 05 2009 15:45 iCCup.deL wrote:
Seem kinda obvious that Korea wouldn't care about baseball :/
during the WBC most people were absolutely maniacal about watching Korea play... but then after the the finals most people were like 'yeh we lost oh well could be worse'
basically when korea is involved in any sport EVERYONE is a fan of that sport... when it's offseason then people are less interested (like... football and the world cup)
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On July 05 2009 18:57 MrHoon wrote:
no one taking offense might be kinda pushing it. It was more like nobody cared. Basically I will make turn this into a scenario so TL can understand it better
White Guy: LOLOLOLOLOL U NIGGERS LOL ENJOY UR SHITTY DAY
Black Guy: lol okay whatever
White Guy: ... srsly?
Black Guy: Yeah whatever.
White Guy: can we b frendz? i sry
Black Guy: ???????
In reality that story would have gone a different route
White Guy: LOLOLOLOLOL U NIGGERS LOL ENJ*smacked*
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iNfeRnaL
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thedeadhaji
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On July 05 2009 18:22 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2009 17:24 Ecael wrote:On July 05 2009 17:22 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
I would be interested to know the source of this.
Amusing though this is, it really shows the danger of an inadequate understanding of the history of one's own country. Considering the horrific brutality inflicted on Korea during the colonial period, one has to wonder at the mindset of Japanese people who would parade that flag around in Seoul with the express intention of provoking a reaction. Considering that the point of this seems to be to draw a hostile reaction from the Koreans, I don't suppose it is inadequate understand of history, just pure stupidity. They were lucky not to have been beaten to pulps. Perhaps, but I was giving them the benefit of the doubt on the more serious moral issue and assuming that they had little, or perhaps a confused and inadequate, understanding of the true horrors inflicted on Korea by soldiers and other authorities acting under that flag. If one were to fully understand the relevant historical situation and then parade around Seoul attempting to provoke a reaction with that flag, that would be deeply reprehensible. I think it is far more likely that these people are simply ignorant.
They're definitely ignorant b/c "that side of history" isn't taught at all in the country from my experience.
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
I'm a Korean and I fucking love Japan and Japanese
what does that make me
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Hahaha, nice  .
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theres diff levels of badness in the blood among diff generations and diff upbringings, i dunno
anyway if it were obvious that the two women were taunting on the premise of baseball, the koreans should've seen no reason to get offended
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
On July 05 2009 21:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
theres diff levels of badness in the blood among diff generations and diff upbringings, i dunno
anyway if it were obvious that the two women were taunting on the premise of baseball, the koreans should've seen no reason to get offended
but still, they were using the japanese war flag =.="
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