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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
June 28 2009 11:05 GMT
#1
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Woo 1000th post! ~_~


as adapted from P. Cornelisse - Taal is zeg maar echt mijn ding


Something interesting is happening to the word fucking. For years goodly linguists have been doing research into it, and especially into phenomenon called fucking insertion.

The question with fucking insertion is: where can we put the word fucking, and where can't we? Apparently we have unconscious rules for that in our head. In English you can even stuff 'fucking' into a word: Fan-fucking-tastic! But here's the thing: we can only do it before the syllable with stress (in this case 'tas'). Consequently we'd never hear 'Fantas-fucking-tic'. Americans can effortlessly insert 'fucking' in the right spot. 'Kanga-fucking-roo', 'Minne-fucking-sota', et cetera.

Cornelisse goes on to say she feels this isn't possible in Dutch, but I disagree. 'Amster-fucking-dam' yo.

What's it like in your language?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 11:08:08
June 28 2009 11:07 GMT
#2
sarang fucking hae <3

(로플 fucking 썹?)
Hates Fun🤔
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
June 28 2009 11:16 GMT
#3
Mother-fucking-fucker?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 28 2009 11:22 GMT
#4
Phili-fucking-ppines
works fine over here

(the double p looks weird tho)
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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
June 28 2009 11:28 GMT
#5
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
June 28 2009 11:35 GMT
#6
team-fucking-liquid obv
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
June 28 2009 12:00 GMT
#7
I prefer fan-bloody-tastic, but each to their own...
u gotta sk8
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
June 28 2009 12:10 GMT
#8
Isn't the term fucking insertion kind of redundant?
fucking = sex
insertion = sex
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
June 28 2009 12:11 GMT
#9
ifuckinglikestarcraft
ilikefuckingstarcraft?
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 28 2009 12:18 GMT
#10
I think it sounds pretty weird in Dutch tbh. :p
觀過斯知仁矣.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 12:49:35
June 28 2009 12:47 GMT
#11
I can guaran-fucking-tee that it works pretty well here in the United Fucking Kingdom.
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 28 2009 12:49 GMT
#12
fucking incredible
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 28 2009 12:49 GMT
#13
On June 28 2009 21:47 jello_biafra wrote:
It works pretty well here in the United Fucking Kingdom.


ORLY???//
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 13:29:40
June 28 2009 12:50 GMT
#14
That sounds like a really appealing country jello_biafra. Might as well change your name to increase tourism.

Edit: I meant to say tourism not tourists.

Also, Bowser and Blue made an excellent song called "Use of the F word in Canada." It's on youtube here. I recommend simply listening to the audio because the text isn't synched properly. The start says The Arrogant Worms but it's by Bowser and Blue. Both groups are hillarious though.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
June 28 2009 12:52 GMT
#15
Haha yeah just what I was thinking
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
June 28 2009 12:54 GMT
#16
ahem, does anyone recall this thread?
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On June 27 2009 20:13 Pholon wrote:
FUCK MY 1000th POST WAS SOMETHING LAME


FUCK
:-p
/off

It doesnt work with mine at all.
BW fighting!
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 28 2009 12:55 GMT
#17
On June 28 2009 21:50 Durak wrote:
That sounds like a really appealing country jello_biafra. Might as well change your name to increase tourists.



actually that name will trick tourists into thinking you can fuck for free at every corner
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 28 2009 13:04 GMT
#18
fucking skill-less newbie
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
wo0py
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Netherlands922 Posts
June 28 2009 13:33 GMT
#19
Star-fucking Craft : Brood-fucking War
We shouldnt recreate anger of the non-virtual world
Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia903 Posts
June 28 2009 13:37 GMT
#20
Staff Sgt. Max Fucking Fightmaster

http://www.cracked.com/article_14982_9-manliest-names-in-world.html
MrRey
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
183 Posts
June 28 2009 13:39 GMT
#21
Dunno...

Fucking France? rofl.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 13:48 GMT
#22
Su-fucking-ka... Doesn't work.

Blya-fucking-t'... Nope.

Prezi-fucking-dent, success kind of.

Muho-fucking-mor, success.

So basically no Russian insults can have it done to them but some longer words are capable of it.
Peace~
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
June 28 2009 13:59 GMT
#23
On June 28 2009 22:48 fanatacist wrote:
Su-fucking-ka... Doesn't work.

Blya-fucking-t'... Nope.

Prezi-fucking-dent, success kind of.

Muho-fucking-mor, success.

So basically no Russian insults can have it done to them but some longer words are capable of it.
Wait a minute, "prezident" is an insult in russian?:D
BW fighting!
stet_tcl
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Greece319 Posts
June 28 2009 13:59 GMT
#24
Gree-fucking-ce...
Ath-fucking-ens
Nah I don't think it works here
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 28 2009 14:00 GMT
#25
in Soviet Russia, words fuck you!
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
June 28 2009 14:23 GMT
#26
GORILLA FUCKING TERRAN
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 28 2009 15:51 GMT
#27
fu-fucking-ck
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
June 28 2009 16:05 GMT
#28
mikey-fucking-moo. Nice ring to it.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 16:06 GMT
#29
On June 28 2009 22:59 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 22:48 fanatacist wrote:
Su-fucking-ka... Doesn't work.

Blya-fucking-t'... Nope.

Prezi-fucking-dent, success kind of.

Muho-fucking-mor, success.

So basically no Russian insults can have it done to them but some longer words are capable of it.
Wait a minute, "prezident" is an insult in russian?:D

The first two are insults.

That's why I said that insults don't work but longer ones do work, like prezident and muhomor (poisonous mushroom).
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 16:08 GMT
#30
On June 29 2009 01:05 mikeymoo wrote:
mikey-fucking-moo. Nice ring to it.

CHARLIE FUCKING MURPHY
Fana fucking tacist
Sonuv fucking Bob
Thedead fucking haji
Mani fucking festo
lil fucking susie
never fucking gg <- awesome one
frozen fucking arbiter
bi fucking su
jae fucking dong
rek fucking rul
Peace~
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
June 28 2009 16:29 GMT
#31
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
June 28 2009 16:37 GMT
#32
It don't fucking matter. Fuck rules.

Jesus Fucking Zerg
Man Fucking Toss
Emperor of Fucking Terran
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 28 2009 16:44 GMT
#33
ni-fucking-hao :3
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
June 28 2009 16:45 GMT
#34
Slayers-fucking-boxer
By-fucking-Fantasy
OnGame-Fucking-Media
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
June 28 2009 16:49 GMT
#35
I thought the property was called 'infixation,' and yes, it's a phenomenon in English that may appear only otherwise in the use of 'bloody' in British English, but that's not confirmed. Infixation isn't a typical property typologically speaking, so to call it 'infixation' is a little more difficult for the linguistic community to accept.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 16:55:54
June 28 2009 16:55 GMT
#36
Che fucking f.

They say using an adj or an adv when a different verb would mean the same thing is bad.

I ran quickly. I sprinted.

I had rough sex with your mother. I fucked your mother.

Fuck is a more powerful verb than adjective. But then you say "I ran fucking quickly" is better than "I sprinted." What about "I fucking sprinted" ?

PS: Catastrofuck.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
omfghi2u2
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States831 Posts
June 28 2009 16:55 GMT
#37
oak shibal shibal shibal su su
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
June 28 2009 16:57 GMT
#38
On June 29 2009 01:55 Chef wrote:
Che fucking f.

They say using an adj or an adv when a different verb would mean the same thing is bad.

I ran quickly. I sprinted.

I had rough sex with your mother. I fucked your mother.

Fuck is a more powerful verb than adjective. But then you say "I ran fucking quickly" is better than "I sprinted." What about "I fucking sprinted" ?

PS: Catastrofuck.


Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 17:03:33
June 28 2009 17:02 GMT
#39
Most borrowed words work, but..

Skriv - fucking - bord,

works I guess ^^
Mada Mada Dane
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11579 Posts
June 28 2009 17:04 GMT
#40
Caucasian Fucking Asian..... shit sounds like a porno
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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
June 28 2009 17:05 GMT
#41
绝 fucking 不
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no fucking way?
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 28 2009 17:11 GMT
#42
sabai fucking deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

gonna eat some pad thai
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 17:11 GMT
#43
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)
Peace~
defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
June 28 2009 17:21 GMT
#44
Micronesia's right, it works like a charm if stuck into an anapest.

pido-fucking-ras
kozlo-fucking-yob (bit of redundancy there, whatever)
Lenin-fucking-grad
and so forth
We believe that we invent symbols. The truth is that they invent us; we are their creatures, shaped by their hard, defining edges.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
June 28 2009 17:42 GMT
#45
On June 29 2009 02:11 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)

The rule specifically says the 'fucking 'has to be before the accented syllable... so if it's a two syllable word with the first syllable being the accented one then you can't use it effectively.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 17:42 GMT
#46
On June 29 2009 02:21 defenestrate wrote:
Micronesia's right, it works like a charm if stuck into an anapest.

pido-fucking-ras
kozlo-fucking-yob (bit of redundancy there, whatever)
Lenin-fucking-grad
and so forth

o_O pidoras? kozloyob? I sense Slavic roots but not the Russian language. Is my insult/slang rhetoric outdated because I haven't been to Russia in a few years?
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 17:45 GMT
#47
On June 29 2009 02:42 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:11 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)

The rule specifically says the 'fucking 'has to be before the accented syllable... so if it's a two syllable word with the first syllable being the accented one then you can't use it effectively.

Yes but I don't care. You can still say it... BEE-fucking-soo. It doesn't flow as well as Fucking Bisu, but I never claimed it to do so nor was it my intent to give a definitive list of perfect uses of this technique.
Peace~
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 28 2009 17:47 GMT
#48
jesus fucking christ.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
June 28 2009 17:48 GMT
#49
On June 29 2009 02:45 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:42 micronesia wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:11 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)

The rule specifically says the 'fucking 'has to be before the accented syllable... so if it's a two syllable word with the first syllable being the accented one then you can't use it effectively.

Yes but I don't care. You can still say it... BEE-fucking-soo. It doesn't flow as well as Fucking Bisu, but I never claimed it to do so nor was it my intent to give a definitive list of perfect uses of this technique.

If you are okay with complete failure then I suppose you can say whatever you want.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 17:52 GMT
#50
On June 29 2009 02:48 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:45 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:42 micronesia wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:11 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)

The rule specifically says the 'fucking 'has to be before the accented syllable... so if it's a two syllable word with the first syllable being the accented one then you can't use it effectively.

Yes but I don't care. You can still say it... BEE-fucking-soo. It doesn't flow as well as Fucking Bisu, but I never claimed it to do so nor was it my intent to give a definitive list of perfect uses of this technique.

If you are okay with complete failure then I suppose you can say whatever you want.

And if you are okay with forum fascism then I suppose you can continue making boring dissections of people's posts where it is completely unnecessary.
Peace~
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
June 28 2009 17:54 GMT
#51
On June 29 2009 02:52 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:48 micronesia wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:45 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:42 micronesia wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:11 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)

The rule specifically says the 'fucking 'has to be before the accented syllable... so if it's a two syllable word with the first syllable being the accented one then you can't use it effectively.

Yes but I don't care. You can still say it... BEE-fucking-soo. It doesn't flow as well as Fucking Bisu, but I never claimed it to do so nor was it my intent to give a definitive list of perfect uses of this technique.

If you are okay with complete failure then I suppose you can say whatever you want.

And if you are okay with forum fascism then I suppose you can continue making boring dissections of people's posts where it is completely unnecessary.

This does not even describe what has happened lol
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 17:57:36
June 28 2009 17:56 GMT
#52
On June 29 2009 02:54 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:52 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:48 micronesia wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:45 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:42 micronesia wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:11 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)

The rule specifically says the 'fucking 'has to be before the accented syllable... so if it's a two syllable word with the first syllable being the accented one then you can't use it effectively.

Yes but I don't care. You can still say it... BEE-fucking-soo. It doesn't flow as well as Fucking Bisu, but I never claimed it to do so nor was it my intent to give a definitive list of perfect uses of this technique.

If you are okay with complete failure then I suppose you can say whatever you want.

And if you are okay with forum fascism then I suppose you can continue making boring dissections of people's posts where it is completely unnecessary.

This does not even describe what has happened lol

Although you were not quite a grammar Nazi like the "forum fascism" statement might allude to, it is a close relative of said Nazi to take one usage of a technique and explain why it is an inefficient use of a technique that wasn't really meant to be serious in the first place.

EDIT: Although I will give you credit, this was more of a "nitpicking" act than a dissection.
Peace~
Andtwo
Profile Joined June 2009
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 18:04:12
June 28 2009 17:58 GMT
#53
On June 29 2009 01:49 Arrian wrote:
I thought the property was called 'infixation,' and yes, it's a phenomenon in English that may appear only otherwise in the use of 'bloody' in British English, but that's not confirmed. Infixation isn't a typical property typologically speaking, so to call it 'infixation' is a little more difficult for the linguistic community to accept.


This is so no true. Firstly, while infixation isn't a typical property OF ENGLISH, it is a very robust morphological process in many many other languages, notably arabic where many root words consist of a 3 constant string and vowels are infixed. (Edit: I just thought of something else--infixation is a common process in ludlings/word games/pig latin as well)

Stuff about morphology you probably don't care about:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sidenote, really all that infixation means is that you have your root word and you have your "other stuff" which aren't quite words but sort of means things, aka morphemes, like the -s for plural for instance and in English. You gotta stick that shit somewhere and you have three options "beginning, middlesomewhere, and end". In English all inflectional morphemes (things like -s, -ing, they don't make a new word but they made it plural or progressive or something) go at the end. There are also derivational morphemes--parts of words that kinda sorta mean things but can't easily be added onto words--ie "pre" or "con", you sort of have the idea that pre means before and con means against but it would take you a while to realize that. Those mostly all go at the beginning. All infixes are are some languages like dumping shit in the middle of their words so instead of "bobcats", they'd do it like "bobscat". Some languages like doing things that way--I'm sure some of our readers who speak other languages than English are like that.

Sign Languages:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sign Languages don't necessarily have to obey this rule as you could simultaneous mark your morphological structure. They could also do it the other way, but they will often opt for a simultaneous strategy.




Secondly I have no idea why you think that bloody is "unconfirmed" in British English. It happens. Also in British you sometimes get "blooming" inserted. In American English at least you can also infix other words that are less vulgur such as flippin (fan-flipping-tastic) or god damn "a-god damn-mazing".

Also when you are thinking of doing this in your own language that's not English, try using native curse words and at least 3 syllable words. It doesn't work in English either if you use some words *Tex-fucking-as.
defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
June 28 2009 18:08 GMT
#54
On June 29 2009 02:42 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:21 defenestrate wrote:
Micronesia's right, it works like a charm if stuck into an anapest.

pido-fucking-ras
kozlo-fucking-yob (bit of redundancy there, whatever)
Lenin-fucking-grad
and so forth

o_O pidoras? kozloyob? I sense Slavic roots but not the Russian language. Is my insult/slang rhetoric outdated because I haven't been to Russia in a few years?


The first one might be a little off (supposed to be analogous to fag?) The second's improvised, because every language needs a goatfucker. Your Russian is certainly better than mine, FWIW.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 18:19 GMT
#55
On June 29 2009 03:08 defenestrate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:42 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:21 defenestrate wrote:
Micronesia's right, it works like a charm if stuck into an anapest.

pido-fucking-ras
kozlo-fucking-yob (bit of redundancy there, whatever)
Lenin-fucking-grad
and so forth

o_O pidoras? kozloyob? I sense Slavic roots but not the Russian language. Is my insult/slang rhetoric outdated because I haven't been to Russia in a few years?


The first one might be a little off (supposed to be analogous to fag?) The second's improvised, because every language needs a goatfucker. Your Russian is certainly better than mine, FWIW.

Maybe you are thinking of pizdetz?

Goatfucker would be closer to kozloy'op (or kozli if you wanted it to be at least partially feminine in root), pretty clever though lol.

Thanks btw :p It's not hard though when you are born with it. Learning it as a second language is REALLY tough.
Peace~
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 28 2009 18:22 GMT
#56
On June 28 2009 20:05 Pholon wrote:
'Fantas-fucking-tic'

Hahaha, congrats on reaching 1,000.
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MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
June 28 2009 18:23 GMT
#57
I only have 900 more posts to go!
no name
defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
June 28 2009 18:29 GMT
#58
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mat
pidoras (пидора́с), a bastardization of pederast, meaning a male homosexual in Russian.


You're right with the goat though
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beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 20:18:49
June 28 2009 18:32 GMT
#59
On June 29 2009 02:58 Andtwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 01:49 Arrian wrote:
I thought the property was called 'infixation,' and yes, it's a phenomenon in English that may appear only otherwise in the use of 'bloody' in British English, but that's not confirmed. Infixation isn't a typical property typologically speaking, so to call it 'infixation' is a little more difficult for the linguistic community to accept.


This is so no true. Firstly, while infixation isn't a typical property OF ENGLISH, it is a very robust morphological process in many many other languages, notably arabic where many root words consist of a 3 constant string and vowels are infixed. (Edit: I just thought of something else--infixation is a common process in ludlings/word games/pig latin as well)

Stuff about morphology you probably don't care about:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sidenote, really all that infixation means is that you have your root word and you have your "other stuff" which aren't quite words but sort of means things, aka morphemes, like the -s for plural for instance and in English. You gotta stick that shit somewhere and you have three options "beginning, middlesomewhere, and end". In English all inflectional morphemes (things like -s, -ing, they don't make a new word but they made it plural or progressive or something) go at the end. There are also derivational morphemes--parts of words that kinda sorta mean things but can't easily be added onto words--ie "pre" or "con", you sort of have the idea that pre means before and con means against but it would take you a while to realize that. Those mostly all go at the beginning. All infixes are are some languages like dumping shit in the middle of their words so instead of "bobcats", they'd do it like "bobscat". Some languages like doing things that way--I'm sure some of our readers who speak other languages than English are like that.

Sign Languages:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sign Languages don't necessarily have to obey this rule as you could simultaneous mark your morphological structure. They could also do it the other way, but they will often opt for a simultaneous strategy.




Secondly I have no idea why you think that bloody is "unconfirmed" in British English. It happens. Also in British you sometimes get "blooming" inserted. In American English at least you can also infix other words that are less vulgur such as flippin (fan-flipping-tastic) or god damn "a-god damn-mazing".


Oh fucking wow oO kind of tl bloody dr I wish I could compre-fucking-hend more of it

Also when you are thinking of doing this in your own language that's not English, try using native curse words and at least 3 syllable words. It doesn't work in English either if you use some words *Tex-fucking-as.


pie-fucking-rdolić... no fu-fuck-cking doesn't make any sense >< edit: translated it wrong
pierdo-fucking-lony is fu-fucking-cking

wa-fucking-kacje
klawia-fucking-tura

I don't feel like mixing languages like that makes sense to me ;P
wwww
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
June 28 2009 18:44 GMT
#60
mom-fucking-mee

no wait, that's weird
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 28 2009 18:45 GMT
#61
into the fucking wow
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 18:57:23
June 28 2009 18:51 GMT
#62
On June 29 2009 02:58 Andtwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 01:49 Arrian wrote:
I thought the property was called 'infixation,' and yes, it's a phenomenon in English that may appear only otherwise in the use of 'bloody' in British English, but that's not confirmed. Infixation isn't a typical property typologically speaking, so to call it 'infixation' is a little more difficult for the linguistic community to accept.


This is so no true. Firstly, while infixation isn't a typical property OF ENGLISH, it is a very robust morphophonological process in many many other languages, notably arabic where many root words consist of a 3 constant string and vowels are infixed. (Edit: I just thought of something else--infixation is a common process in ludlings/word games/pig latin as well)

Stuff about morphology you probably don't care about:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sidenote, really all that infixation means is that you have your root word and you have your "other stuff" which aren't quite words but sort of means things, aka morphemes, like the -s for plural for instance and in English. You gotta stick that shit somewhere and you have three options "beginning, middlesomewhere, and end". In English all inflectional morphemes (things like -s, -ing, they don't make a new word but they made it plural or progressive or something) go at the end. There are also derivational morphemes--parts of words that kinda sorta mean things but can't easily be added onto words--ie "pre" or "con", you sort of have the idea that pre means before and con means against but it would take you a while to realize that. Those mostly all go at the beginning. All infixes are are some languages like dumping shit in the middle of their words so instead of "bobcats", they'd do it like "bobscat". Some languages like doing things that way--I'm sure some of our readers who speak other languages than English are like that.

Sign Languages:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sign Languages don't necessarily have to obey this rule as you could simultaneous mark your morphological structure. They could also do it the other way, but they will often opt for a simultaneous strategy.




Secondly I have no idea why you think that bloody is "unconfirmed" in British English. It happens. Also in British you sometimes get "blooming" inserted. In American English at least you can also infix other words that are less vulgur such as flippin (fan-flipping-tastic) or god damn "a-god damn-mazing".

Also when you are thinking of doing this in your own language that's not English, try using native curse words and at least 3 syllable words. It doesn't work in English either if you use some words *Tex-fucking-as.


I am quite aware of the facts surrounding morphology. I am a linguistics major, considering a specialty in morphology. And I'm pretty confident that you're wrong.

To begin, infixes do not necessarily even have to have a meaning. In English there is another type of infixation as with the alternation of /tag/ - /tang/ where the engma is epenthesized for morphological reasons. The engma has no meaning associated, yet it is an infix. The reason I have reservations about British and American English 'infixation' is that there has been an idea posited that infixation of expletives and regular infixation are two separate processes (and indeed they must be in their motivations), as regular infixation results in a meaning change, whereas expletive infixation is merely serves an intensive function.

Regarding the typological prevalence infixation, I was speaking relatively. Infixation is not as widely attested as other morphological processes (perhaps even circumfixation), and that is simply a fact. When parsing data, the first instinct upon seeing a base change that might suggest infixation should not be that the form is an infix because it is not as well attested.

You seem to be mistaking productivity for typological prevalence. In Arabic, infixation is extremely productive. However, most languages do not even witness infixation. That was my point.
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 28 2009 18:54 GMT
#63
On June 29 2009 03:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
into the fucking wow

into fucking the wow :D
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 28 2009 18:57 GMT
#64
Scheissen-ficken-kopf?
Shit-fucking-head?

Gro-fucking-byc. < I like that actually
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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
June 28 2009 19:03 GMT
#65
o-fucking-rly?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 28 2009 19:08 GMT
#66
On June 29 2009 03:54 SayaSP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 03:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
into the fucking wow

into fucking the wow :D


D:
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
June 28 2009 19:20 GMT
#67
Everyone shut the fucking fuck up.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 19:37 GMT
#68
On June 29 2009 03:29 defenestrate wrote:
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mat
Show nested quote +
pidoras (пидора́с), a bastardization of pederast, meaning a male homosexual in Russian.


You're right with the goat though

O_o

Honestly never heard that before... Might be one of those regional things or something.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 19:38 GMT
#69
On June 29 2009 03:57 Grobyc wrote:
Scheissen-ficken-kopf?
Shit-fucking-head?

Gro-fucking-byc. < I like that actually

I pronounce your name grow-bee-see, so... Groby-fucking-c.
Peace~
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
June 28 2009 19:41 GMT
#70
I was just playing Grand Theft Auto 4 recently for the first time, and in the bank robber mission the crew storms the bank and one of them yells out "none of you fucking fucks move" lol
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 20:10:22
June 28 2009 20:08 GMT
#71
On June 29 2009 02:58 Andtwo wrote:
Also when you are thinking of doing this in your own language that's not English, try using native curse words and at least 3 syllable words. It doesn't work in English either if you use some words *Tex-fucking-as.


I like how you did a huge rant on morphology after completely ignoring my post It's dependant on stress, Texas is TEX-as. Try Ala-fucking-bama in stead.

On June 29 2009 01:08 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 01:05 mikeymoo wrote:
mikey-fucking-moo. Nice ring to it.

CHARLIE FUCKING MURPHY
Fana fucking tacist
Sonuv fucking Bob
Thedead fucking haji
Mani fucking festo
lil fucking susie
never fucking gg <- awesome one
frozen fucking arbiter
bi fucking su
jae fucking dong
rek fucking rul


I find Ar-fucking-tosis works well :p

On June 28 2009 21:54 538 wrote:
ahem, does anyone recall this thread?
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2009 20:13 Pholon wrote:
FUCK MY 1000th POST WAS SOMETHING LAME


FUCK
:-p
/off

It doesnt work with mine at all.


Yer I pretty much hoped noone'd notice :x

I'm actually interested how this works (if at all) in Finnish/Hungarian since they're mostly stress-the-first-syllable languages. Does fucking insertion (pun completely intended imo) not happen at all?
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Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
June 28 2009 20:14 GMT
#72
On June 29 2009 02:47 FragKrag wrote:
jesus fucking christ.


[image loading]
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
June 28 2009 20:18 GMT
#73
Super-fucking-delicious.
No no no no its not mine!
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
June 28 2009 20:24 GMT
#74
fu-fucking-cking
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
June 28 2009 20:40 GMT
#75
On June 29 2009 03:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
into the fucking wow

over the fucking under
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barbahaba0
Profile Joined January 2009
Israel226 Posts
June 28 2009 20:44 GMT
#76
sha-fucking lom
lol what a weird subjest lol
absa fucking lutely bob
u can say that again
game over dude .... game over!!!!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 28 2009 20:47 GMT
#77
i fucking loveoov
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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
June 28 2009 20:55 GMT
#78
Jae FUCKING Dong

FUCKING Dong

Dong
hi
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 28 2009 21:01 GMT
#79
scc-fucking-faust/micronesia/arcology/toss
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Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
June 28 2009 21:05 GMT
#80
I think Rocco does it best

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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
June 28 2009 22:34 GMT
#81
On June 29 2009 02:45 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:42 micronesia wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:11 fanatacist wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:29 micronesia wrote:
You guys aren't really obeying the "fucking before accented syllable" rule...

Fanatacist how exactly do you pronounce bisu?

BEE-soo

There is really nowhere else to put it in the word, naw mean?

Although my Russian instincts tell me to pronounce it bi(flat)-SU(flat accented)

The rule specifically says the 'fucking 'has to be before the accented syllable... so if it's a two syllable word with the first syllable being the accented one then you can't use it effectively.

Yes but I don't care. You can still say it... BEE-fucking-soo. It doesn't flow as well as Fucking Bisu, but I never claimed it to do so nor was it my intent to give a definitive list of perfect uses of this technique.

I find myself saying "Fucking Bisu" a lot thanks to Fantasy PL. :p
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United States703 Posts
June 28 2009 22:59 GMT
#82
word.
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IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
June 28 2009 23:14 GMT
#83
this is fun-fucking-loving thread
Forever Vulture.. :(
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 23:28:22
June 28 2009 23:27 GMT
#84
man-fucking-woman!
holy (fucking) shit!
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
June 28 2009 23:35 GMT
#85
Chi-fucking-leans

Lzgamer ftw!
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Andtwo
Profile Joined June 2009
United States126 Posts
June 28 2009 23:48 GMT
#86
On June 29 2009 03:51 Arrian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:58 Andtwo wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:49 Arrian wrote:
I thought the property was called 'infixation,' and yes, it's a phenomenon in English that may appear only otherwise in the use of 'bloody' in British English, but that's not confirmed. Infixation isn't a typical property typologically speaking, so to call it 'infixation' is a little more difficult for the linguistic community to accept.


This is so no true. Firstly, while infixation isn't a typical property OF ENGLISH, it is a very robust morphophonological process in many many other languages, notably arabic where many root words consist of a 3 constant string and vowels are infixed. (Edit: I just thought of something else--infixation is a common process in ludlings/word games/pig latin as well)

Stuff about morphology you probably don't care about:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sidenote, really all that infixation means is that you have your root word and you have your "other stuff" which aren't quite words but sort of means things, aka morphemes, like the -s for plural for instance and in English. You gotta stick that shit somewhere and you have three options "beginning, middlesomewhere, and end". In English all inflectional morphemes (things like -s, -ing, they don't make a new word but they made it plural or progressive or something) go at the end. There are also derivational morphemes--parts of words that kinda sorta mean things but can't easily be added onto words--ie "pre" or "con", you sort of have the idea that pre means before and con means against but it would take you a while to realize that. Those mostly all go at the beginning. All infixes are are some languages like dumping shit in the middle of their words so instead of "bobcats", they'd do it like "bobscat". Some languages like doing things that way--I'm sure some of our readers who speak other languages than English are like that.

Sign Languages:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sign Languages don't necessarily have to obey this rule as you could simultaneous mark your morphological structure. They could also do it the other way, but they will often opt for a simultaneous strategy.




Secondly I have no idea why you think that bloody is "unconfirmed" in British English. It happens. Also in British you sometimes get "blooming" inserted. In American English at least you can also infix other words that are less vulgur such as flippin (fan-flipping-tastic) or god damn "a-god damn-mazing".

Also when you are thinking of doing this in your own language that's not English, try using native curse words and at least 3 syllable words. It doesn't work in English either if you use some words *Tex-fucking-as.


I am quite aware of the facts surrounding morphology. I am a linguistics major, considering a specialty in morphology. And I'm pretty confident that you're wrong.

To begin, infixes do not necessarily even have to have a meaning. In English there is another type of infixation as with the alternation of /tag/ - /tang/ where the engma is epenthesized for morphological reasons. The engma has no meaning associated, yet it is an infix. The reason I have reservations about British and American English 'infixation' is that there has been an idea posited that infixation of expletives and regular infixation are two separate processes (and indeed they must be in their motivations), as regular infixation results in a meaning change, whereas expletive infixation is merely serves an intensive function.

Regarding the typological prevalence infixation, I was speaking relatively. Infixation is not as widely attested as other morphological processes (perhaps even circumfixation), and that is simply a fact. When parsing data, the first instinct upon seeing a base change that might suggest infixation should not be that the form is an infix because it is not as well attested.

You seem to be mistaking productivity for typological prevalence. In Arabic, infixation is extremely productive. However, most languages do not even witness infixation. That was my point.




+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not really sure what this /tag/ - /tang/ ([tag]-[taη], [tag]-[taηg]???) alternation is, but epenthesis is not a morphological process--it's a phonological one, thus the not carrying any meaning. Epenthesis is much more things like ham(p)ster or Chom(p)sky which are also not infixation (which may lean towards the phonetic even and not phonological, JJ Ohala and Blevins deal with this if you're interesting). Also other languages have morphological intensifier markers so I don't see why it couldn't be similar even if it is a whole word. Especially since it's very restrictive in form--the infix itself it typically follows the metrical foot structure unlike the "middle name" phenomenon of things like "jesus tap dancing christ"/"jesus tittyfucking christ", which is why we get things like god damn, bleeding, bloody, fucking but not hell, shit, damn (Ari-god damn-zona > *Ari-damn-zona). I can't really give you an example of a non-word morpheme that qualifies but it does work with "eff-ing" (Ari-effing-zona). If you really want to make the hairsplit distinction that infixation must be a bound morpheme, you can though--I just don't see the use in doing so.

Also infixation might be somewhat "uncommon", but it's not really an ultra rare process like forming a coda around a fricative/plosive. Here's a list for instance, and while it's quite uncommon in indo-european languages, cross linguistically, I'm not sure it's that rare on some level, just not very intuitive. http://books.google.com/books?id=C3VS4SrghvkC&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=languages with infixation&source=bl&ots=GGHOa1Rnim&sig=7ZuRrUzBsZ8giBECclIhQmEL1TY&hl=en&ei=7vhHStLsPIvDtwek1u2MCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3 Page 231 gives a list of over 111 languages displaying the process. Furthermore, typology is not an especially useful construct. Because infixation seldom occurs in Indo-European languages but runs rampant in Austronesian languages, what use do we find from typology. Also, more arguments against typology are found in Evans & Levinson (2009) in Behavioral and Brain Sciences. As a linguistics major, you might find it interesting.


TLDR: it's close enough to real infixation to count and infixation isn't THAT uncommon and typology is kinda like ehh whatever.

Also, expletive infixation is really cool. It's one of the more accessible things in linguistics and something that caught my interest early on. Any linguistic process that leads to a picture of jesus sexing himself is ok in my book.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
June 28 2009 23:52 GMT
#87
hahahaha jae fucking dong
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
June 29 2009 00:03 GMT
#88
On June 29 2009 08:52 DanceCommander wrote:
hahahaha jae fucking dong

hashahaha
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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
June 29 2009 00:13 GMT
#89
GfuckingG? you hear that alot. kespa would LOVE it!

how about zi-fucking-zi yo?


kes-fucking-pa
liquorice
Profile Joined August 2008
United States170 Posts
June 29 2009 00:15 GMT
#90
best lingui-fucking-istics ever.
fuck yeah zerglings!
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
June 29 2009 00:15 GMT
#91
Oh this thread isnt about fan-fucking?

darn it
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
June 29 2009 00:29 GMT
#92
On June 29 2009 08:48 Andtwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 03:51 Arrian wrote:
On June 29 2009 02:58 Andtwo wrote:
On June 29 2009 01:49 Arrian wrote:
I thought the property was called 'infixation,' and yes, it's a phenomenon in English that may appear only otherwise in the use of 'bloody' in British English, but that's not confirmed. Infixation isn't a typical property typologically speaking, so to call it 'infixation' is a little more difficult for the linguistic community to accept.


This is so no true. Firstly, while infixation isn't a typical property OF ENGLISH, it is a very robust morphophonological process in many many other languages, notably arabic where many root words consist of a 3 constant string and vowels are infixed. (Edit: I just thought of something else--infixation is a common process in ludlings/word games/pig latin as well)

Stuff about morphology you probably don't care about:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sidenote, really all that infixation means is that you have your root word and you have your "other stuff" which aren't quite words but sort of means things, aka morphemes, like the -s for plural for instance and in English. You gotta stick that shit somewhere and you have three options "beginning, middlesomewhere, and end". In English all inflectional morphemes (things like -s, -ing, they don't make a new word but they made it plural or progressive or something) go at the end. There are also derivational morphemes--parts of words that kinda sorta mean things but can't easily be added onto words--ie "pre" or "con", you sort of have the idea that pre means before and con means against but it would take you a while to realize that. Those mostly all go at the beginning. All infixes are are some languages like dumping shit in the middle of their words so instead of "bobcats", they'd do it like "bobscat". Some languages like doing things that way--I'm sure some of our readers who speak other languages than English are like that.

Sign Languages:
+ Show Spoiler +

Sign Languages don't necessarily have to obey this rule as you could simultaneous mark your morphological structure. They could also do it the other way, but they will often opt for a simultaneous strategy.




Secondly I have no idea why you think that bloody is "unconfirmed" in British English. It happens. Also in British you sometimes get "blooming" inserted. In American English at least you can also infix other words that are less vulgur such as flippin (fan-flipping-tastic) or god damn "a-god damn-mazing".

Also when you are thinking of doing this in your own language that's not English, try using native curse words and at least 3 syllable words. It doesn't work in English either if you use some words *Tex-fucking-as.


I am quite aware of the facts surrounding morphology. I am a linguistics major, considering a specialty in morphology. And I'm pretty confident that you're wrong.

To begin, infixes do not necessarily even have to have a meaning. In English there is another type of infixation as with the alternation of /tag/ - /tang/ where the engma is epenthesized for morphological reasons. The engma has no meaning associated, yet it is an infix. The reason I have reservations about British and American English 'infixation' is that there has been an idea posited that infixation of expletives and regular infixation are two separate processes (and indeed they must be in their motivations), as regular infixation results in a meaning change, whereas expletive infixation is merely serves an intensive function.

Regarding the typological prevalence infixation, I was speaking relatively. Infixation is not as widely attested as other morphological processes (perhaps even circumfixation), and that is simply a fact. When parsing data, the first instinct upon seeing a base change that might suggest infixation should not be that the form is an infix because it is not as well attested.

You seem to be mistaking productivity for typological prevalence. In Arabic, infixation is extremely productive. However, most languages do not even witness infixation. That was my point.




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I'm not really sure what this /tag/ - /tang/ ([tag]-[taη], [tag]-[taηg]???) alternation is, but epenthesis is not a morphological process--it's a phonological one, thus the not carrying any meaning. Epenthesis is much more things like ham(p)ster or Chom(p)sky which are also not infixation (which may lean towards the phonetic even and not phonological, JJ Ohala and Blevins deal with this if you're interesting). Also other languages have morphological intensifier markers so I don't see why it couldn't be similar even if it is a whole word. Especially since it's very restrictive in form--the infix itself it typically follows the metrical foot structure unlike the "middle name" phenomenon of things like "jesus tap dancing christ"/"jesus tittyfucking christ", which is why we get things like god damn, bleeding, bloody, fucking but not hell, shit, damn (Ari-god damn-zona > *Ari-damn-zona). I can't really give you an example of a non-word morpheme that qualifies but it does work with "eff-ing" (Ari-effing-zona). If you really want to make the hairsplit distinction that infixation must be a bound morpheme, you can though--I just don't see the use in doing so.

Also infixation might be somewhat "uncommon", but it's not really an ultra rare process like forming a coda around a fricative/plosive. Here's a list for instance, and while it's quite uncommon in indo-european languages, cross linguistically, I'm not sure it's that rare on some level, just not very intuitive. http://books.google.com/books?id=C3VS4SrghvkC&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=languages with infixation&source=bl&ots=GGHOa1Rnim&sig=7ZuRrUzBsZ8giBECclIhQmEL1TY&hl=en&ei=7vhHStLsPIvDtwek1u2MCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3 Page 231 gives a list of over 111 languages displaying the process. Furthermore, typology is not an especially useful construct. Because infixation seldom occurs in Indo-European languages but runs rampant in Austronesian languages, what use do we find from typology. Also, more arguments against typology are found in Evans & Levinson (2009) in Behavioral and Brain Sciences. As a linguistics major, you might find it interesting.


TLDR: it's close enough to real infixation to count and infixation isn't THAT uncommon and typology is kinda like ehh whatever.

Also, expletive infixation is really cool. It's one of the more accessible things in linguistics and something that caught my interest early on. Any linguistic process that leads to a picture of jesus sexing himself is ok in my book.


I mispoke. However, the morphophonological alternation is quite apparent. It occurs in latinate bases such as [taeg] and [frag] (meaning 'touch' and 'break' respectively) becoming in some context of some affixes (forget which ones, it's been two years) become [tae{engma}g] and [fra{engma}g] or something like that. I could find it if you wanted.

My point simply was that infixation is not particularly common. It's not as rare, as you agree, as finding something like a supine verbal, but it's not what could be characterized as common, and even less common would be a language which uses it as extensively as Arabic.
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