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Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
June 09 2009 17:10 GMT
#41
For God Knows play kurikinton's version. Just learn the intro and then it's easy (the real guitar part is much harder).

I use an ibanez too.
The World God Only Knows
Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
June 09 2009 17:12 GMT
#42
Single coils has the dimensions of around 1 index finger
Humbucklers has the dimensions of the index and middle finger put together
The World God Only Knows
Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
June 09 2009 17:14 GMT
#43
On June 10 2009 02:09 konadora wrote:
I'm mostly aiming to play at home though. Is it big? Humbuckler? Single coils? What's that? (Sorry, really noob with all the guitar terms, although they're awesome :3 )


single coils are basically just 1 row of pickup coils. they have a pretty raw and responsive sound, but they can get really noisy and awkward sounding if you increase distortion up to metal-ish levels

humbucklers are basically 2 rows of pickup coils right next to each other. I guess a simplified way of understanding it would be that sound is coming from 2 sources rather than 1, so the static and unwanted sounds are greatly reduced because the good sounds reinforce each other but the bads sounds dont. If you plan to use a lot of distortion, humbucklers tend to give a much more pleasing sound
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 09 2009 17:14 GMT
#44
On June 10 2009 02:10 Ryshi wrote:
For God Knows play kurikinton's version.

He does a good cover, I also like his F.chopin video
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
June 09 2009 17:19 GMT
#45
On June 10 2009 02:10 Ryshi wrote:
For God Knows play kurikinton's version. Just learn the intro and then it's easy (the real guitar part is much harder).

I use an ibanez too.


are you talking about this video?


because if you are, that doesn't look very easy to me, especially some of the parts in the last 20 seconds are really hard.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 09 2009 17:24 GMT
#46
So, these coils.. are they fixed for each guitar or can they be changed? (let's say you want this certain guitar, can you choose between single coil or humbuckler?)
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Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
June 09 2009 17:29 GMT
#47
On June 10 2009 02:24 konadora wrote:
So, these coils.. are they fixed for each guitar or can they be changed? (let's say you want this certain guitar, can you choose between single coil or humbuckler?)


its a pain to change pickups, and completely not worthwhile for cheaper guitars, so probably just go with one that has one

you can try an HSS strat (I dont have experience with these other than playing in a store) which has a humbuckler as well as single coils (you can switch between them).

or just get an ibanez or les paul; aka something that is known for humbucklers and is meant for that kind of music anyway (moreso the ibanez than the LP)
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 09 2009 17:33 GMT
#48
Wow, learned a lot today. Gonna go out later and check out some guitars :D

Thanks!
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ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
June 09 2009 17:35 GMT
#49
On June 10 2009 02:24 konadora wrote:
So, these coils.. are they fixed for each guitar or can they be changed? (let's say you want this certain guitar, can you choose between single coil or humbuckler?)


They CAN be changed but you will need someone with experience to do it. It will require some soldering. It is not recommomended for beginners.

Most electric guitars today have humbucker pickups, its just newer technology. But I know Fender still uses single coil pickups. You just need to look at what pickups you will be getting when choosing a guitar. Its ganna be more important than looks in the long run, you don't want it to sound like shit.

Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
June 09 2009 18:01 GMT
#50
On June 10 2009 02:19 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2009 02:10 Ryshi wrote:
For God Knows play kurikinton's version. Just learn the intro and then it's easy (the real guitar part is much harder).

I use an ibanez too.


are you talking about this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfQh20oeZxs

because if you are, that doesn't look very easy to me, especially some of the parts in the last 20 seconds are really hard.

Yeah, the last 20 secs isn't easy, but if you compare to lost my music, even the intro is hard XD
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inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
June 09 2009 18:04 GMT
#51
Distortion is caused by overloading your amplifier with high volume or gain. The amplifier will increase the guitar sounds by a certain amount, referred to as gain. If you set your gain to a high value, your sound will begin to distort as you start to reach the wattage limit of your amplifier. A clean channel has low gain. A dirty channel has high gain. There are many kinds of amps. For now, just get a combo amp (has the amp and a speaker together).


"Gain" being used to describe distortion is a quirk of guitar lingo. Distortion is caused by signal clipping, whereas gain is really just amplification factor. However, it is common for guitarists to use "gain" to mean distortion or clipping, since they are related.

In modern guitar amps, distortion/clipping is done on purpose using circuits designed to clip the signal. The first electric guitar amps back in the 50s tried very hard to avoid clipping, because purposefully using distortion on electric guitars wasn't in practice yet. The only way to make them clip was to turn the volume way up, where vacuum tubes and speakers get overloaded and clip. In the 70s, amp makers designed amps where only the preamp tubes were overloaded, so that the amp's volume output could be controlled independently of its distortion.

Solid state amps use transistors instead of vacuum tubes but the result is the same. They were made in order to avoid some of the issues with vacuum tube based amps, but tube amps are still very popular, because most guitarists like the tone a good tube amp produces more than any solid state amp. There are some very good solid state amps, and they are generally more affordable than tube amps.

Digital technology has come along even more recently and is getting better all the time, and is a cheap way to make decent quality recordings.

Because the amplifier is the biggest contributor (other than the player) to the sound produced, which one a player picks depends on what sound they want. An amp that is great for playing death metal won't be ideal for playing AC/DC.

Humbucker pickups are two single coil pickups wound in opposite directions and wired in series. The result is relatively high output volume and cancellation of electrical noise that causes a buzzing sound in single coil pickups. Humbuckers usually have less treble and more bass/mids than single coils. Hard rock, metal, and jazz almost exclusively use humbuckers, while less distorted sounds can be done with either. Using heavy distortion will make the buzz of single coil pickups very loud and annoying.
hellhawk123
Profile Joined December 2007
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 18:13:36
June 09 2009 18:05 GMT
#52
Agree with most of the points in the guide. Additions:

If you can afford $150+ on your amp, get an amp with a tube of some sort. I HIGHLY recommend the Vox AD series -- I switched from a Cube 20X to an AD15VT and the tube in the vox makes all the difference. There's this instant richness that you don't get with transistors. Music apparently defies technology. Cubes are good for 2 things: heavy heavy metal and a jazzy acoustic.

the OP recommended some good typical guitars. You can get better value if you like hard rock/metal by looking into ibanez and schecter guitars.

In general ALWAYS go to a guitar center or shop and test out the guitar that you plan to buy or order online. You need to hear it, no amount of reviews will do.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 09 2009 18:30 GMT
#53
On June 10 2009 03:05 hellhawk123 wrote:
Agree with most of the points in the guide. Additions:

If you can afford $600+ on your amp, get an amp with a tube of some sort. I HIGHLY recommend the Vox AD series -- I switched from a Cube 20X to an AD15VT and the tube in the vox makes all the difference. There's this instant richness that you don't get with transistors. Music apparently defies technology. Cubes are good for 2 things: heavy heavy metal and a jazzy acoustic.

the OP recommended some good typical guitars. You can get better value if you like hard rock/metal by looking into ibanez and schecter guitars.

In general ALWAYS go to a guitar center or shop and test out the guitar that you plan to buy or order online. You need to hear it, no amount of reviews will do.

Fixed...
Tube amps are fucking expensive :[ :[ :[.
Agreed though, ibanez does have some good agressive sound guitars for a comparatively cheap price. However, my full recommendation is to go to your nearest Guitar Center, play around with as many guitars as you can in the price range you are looking for out of the same amp until you find what you are looking for. Then, for an amp, take that guitar and play it out of as many amps in your price range. You shouldn't shove out tons of cash for your first guitar/amp until you are certain that you will be playing guitar for a loooong time (to make the money worthwhile). There are 2 kind of guitar players - the ones who play for like a year, yet still claim they play guitar and are great -_-, and those who really stick with it. You should make sure you are the latter before throwing out the money.
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ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
June 09 2009 19:00 GMT
#54
On June 10 2009 03:05 hellhawk123 wrote:
the OP recommended some good typical guitars. You can get better value if you like hard rock/metal by looking into ibanez and schecter guitars.


ESP and Jackson guitars are great too for metal. But I think Schecter is the best for its price.
rytas
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden116 Posts
June 09 2009 19:15 GMT
#55
On June 10 2009 02:29 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2009 02:24 konadora wrote:
So, these coils.. are they fixed for each guitar or can they be changed? (let's say you want this certain guitar, can you choose between single coil or humbuckler?)


its a pain to change pickups, and completely not worthwhile for cheaper guitars, so probably just go with one that has one

you can try an HSS strat (I dont have experience with these other than playing in a store) which has a humbuckler as well as single coils (you can switch between them).

or just get an ibanez or les paul; aka something that is known for humbucklers and is meant for that kind of music anyway (moreso the ibanez than the LP)


Speaking of HSS strats a really good beginners guitar that has that setup would be the Yamaha Pacifica it should be around 200 bucks and a very good guitar for those bucks, I still pick mine up even tho I have access to fancier guitars. Very comfortable to play with its very thin neck, maybe not Ibanez-thin but still thin Only down-side could be the Licensed Floyd-Rose then altho mine has behaved quite well
Hold position Underground Conquerors is a bitch.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 09 2009 19:27 GMT
#56
if you intend to buy a cheap guitar, and buy a Squier, watch that you do not buy the Bullet series. those are quite bad.

when aiming at buying (electric) guitar, you have to set a price range, set what sound you go for and then pick what to buy.

for a clean strait sound (single coil) go for (fender) squier, or yamaha pacifica.
for a fat sound (humbucker) go for ibanez/jackson or esp guitars.
I am not good with quotes
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
June 09 2009 20:29 GMT
#57
cool guide!

what do you guys think of the musicman luke? i was looking to buy myself a graduation present after playing classical for many years prior and it felt like fucking honey, so i ended up instantly buying it for a shitload. i've always felt bad though i didn't really look at any other guitars in that price range, and i guess i'm worried about not getting good value.

also, where do you learn all the little things about gear? just from playing on them? for example, when people discuss what x guitar on x amp with x pickup setup etc etc will sound like i'm just totally lost. do you have good websites or guides to start learning?
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
June 09 2009 20:52 GMT
#58
I just got a Seagull Entourage (Acoustic) for my graduation present... I love it.

My uncle also is in with the string making industry so he's getting me some new prototype strings that they're sending out to about 100 artists to test them, I'm pretty excited to test them out.

I've only been playing for about a year and still I'm not that good, hoping to improve a lot this summer with all my free time.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 09 2009 20:58 GMT
#59
On June 10 2009 05:29 intrigue wrote:
also, where do you learn all the little things about gear? just from playing on them? for example, when people discuss what x guitar on x amp with x pickup setup etc etc will sound like i'm just totally lost. do you have good websites or guides to start learning?

Well, a lot of it comes with experience, from what I can tell. Surrounding yourself with information and media about guitars and whatnot can really help with your overall knowledge of guitar gear...
Things such as reading guitar magazines (often will talk about things such as gear...), reading guitar websites and stuff, and, probably most importantly, being around other people to talk about guitar gear with (assuming they aren't talking out of their asses) can really help with the knowledge of guitar gear. I've read a boatload of guitar catalogs as well, which helps a little. I imagine there are a lot of websites to help with guitar gear knowledge as well if you google properly.
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ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
June 09 2009 21:04 GMT
#60
On June 10 2009 05:29 intrigue wrote:
cool guide!

what do you guys think of the musicman luke? i was looking to buy myself a graduation present after playing classical for many years prior and it felt like fucking honey, so i ended up instantly buying it for a shitload. i've always felt bad though i didn't really look at any other guitars in that price range, and i guess i'm worried about not getting good value.

also, where do you learn all the little things about gear? just from playing on them? for example, when people discuss what x guitar on x amp with x pickup setup etc etc will sound like i'm just totally lost. do you have good websites or guides to start learning?


The Musicman Luke is a great guitar although a little bit overpriced imo. But if its what you wanted then I wouldn't worry about it cause its a very fine guitar.

You learn things about gear through playing and talking to other guitar players. Just find a friend who knows a little something about guitar and you'll learn in no time. Oh and listen to lots and lots of music...just immerse yourself in your favorite guitar music, it beats reading and learning from a book.
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