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TheSchwA
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States248 Posts
June 11 2009 02:07 GMT
#281
Just his personal opinion.
ArtLu
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
June 11 2009 02:17 GMT
#282
11 year old understanding the concept of HUMANITY??? rofl bolshevism. humanity is a concept engulfed in classics, literature, culture, and art that take years and years of time to read and see much less comprehend. he sped his way through school and college, what does he know about humanity except reading textbooks and getting grades? hahaha, sad shit.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
June 11 2009 04:09 GMT
#283
Life sucks.
Game is fun.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
June 11 2009 19:51 GMT
#284
Haven't been to tl in a couple days and what bombshell this thread is.

This 11 year olds comment really has people who play games up in flames? Video games really aren't a help to greater humanity. By "help" I mean advancement, but all these words and ideas are really murky by nature. On an individual level, they unite people and bring the victory/defeat feelings with them. Widescale, they take brainpower and countless hours away from pursuits that could better the lives of other people.

I don't know him, and this next paragraph is my guess. He's been really lucky to gain an intellect and the background to use it. He wants to be a service to humanity (he's 11 years old. I'm sure more than one of us remembers the time when they wanted to change the world in a big way). With an intellect that large at an age that young, he has a uniquely clean filter that he can view the world through. We all realize this to some degree which give his words status and credibility. He says that what some people devote their lives to is a waste of time. But at the same time, he is 11. He can't understand some things yet.

This all boils down to a debate about whether or not "having fun" is an acceptable way to spend so much time, and this reduces even further to worldwide cultural values that haven't had a reason to change yet.

I've seen a couple different types of responses in this thread. To the ones who are putting down this 11 year old, why do you have to justify that gaming ISN'T a waste of time to yourself? This boy just insulted something you appreciate and the immediate anger + offense of the responses (however subtle) is telling of self-conditioning. Just because you've spent a lot of time doing something, abandoning it isn't a waste as long as you retain the lessons and skills you've gained from it.

E-sports and video games have their place and serve a purpose for people. Even 4chan compared video games to other, accepted mediums of human ideas. We're at a generational bridge with the recent advent of video games. They serve little other purposes than entertainment right now, and have yet to be accepted by older generations. The problem with games is that they are so relatively unbalancing in time in energy to a great deal of people.

This tells again of those deep underlying values the world shares right now, but I can't do that justice in the 10 minutes I've spent on this post because I've only just thought about it. But what do I really know about all this stuff, I'm a willing participant in it.

Well anyway these are my thoughts on the matter.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 11 2009 21:56 GMT
#285
On June 10 2009 23:28 Hawk wrote:
Most people also don't graduate from college at fucking 11 years old you idiot. When you're able to do something that most of your peers aren't doing for another decade, then you get to have your time in the spotlight too, ok?

Because graduating from college at age 11 clearly means your opinion about what benefits humanity or how to educate children is worth something? They're entirely unrelated. It's like saying that winning the Nobel Prize in physics qualifies you to tell other guys how to approach women. They're unrelated topics and just because you're an absolute genius in one area does not mean your knowledge in another is just as good.
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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
June 11 2009 22:12 GMT
#286
What people forgot about these people is that while they graduated college at 11, they don't necessarily have anything more than the mental skills of someone who just graduated college. He isn't super-intelligent, he's just average early 20s intelligence at a young age.

I wouldn't care what some guy who just graduated college at 22 said, so I don't necessarily care any more what this guy said. Except he has less life experience.
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
June 11 2009 22:52 GMT
#287
next michael jackson o.o?+ Show Spoiler +
Jk give that boy a starcraft cd
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
June 13 2009 16:11 GMT
#288
On June 12 2009 07:52 ShmotZ wrote:
next michael jackson o.o?+ Show Spoiler +
Jk give that boy a starcraft cd


I'm reasonably sure that his parents wouldn't allow him to use it

And he seems content not to question their decisions and opinions just yet.

This gets me thinking though. In college you run into a lot of very opinionated professors, especially in fields like, say, political science. Is it a good idea to expose your super impressionable youngster to all these ideas before they've developed good critical thinking and reasoning skills?
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