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Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
May 07 2009 11:25 GMT
#101
On May 07 2009 13:34 MayorITC wrote:
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On May 07 2009 12:54 travis wrote:
the rarity of what circumstances?


Out of those 1423 deaths a day in the year 2000, how many of them involved video games? There was a few links provided in this thread, but that was a span over how many years? Clearly, it's not as high of a figure as you'd like many of us to believe.

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concrete facts? where are your concrete facts? does what you are saying even make sense?[


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no



I'm not the one going around trying to dictate what belongs in the General forum and what doesn't. If I ever did though, I would provide a link to the direct forum rule under question instead of spewing random bullshit. And I would also know to shut the fuck up if several other people were telling me that I was wrong. I didn't want to be blunt about it, but since you decided to question my logic, I'll return the favor and show that you're the one with a retarded thought process.

Counter-Strike was relevant to the murder. It was the trigger. Note that trigger does not mean the only fucking factor leading up to the murder. If you stopped acting like some kind of know-it-all, which would require a miracle in your case based on the numerous assumptions in your posts, then you'd realize I never stated my theory behind the kid's motive. I was merely criticizing yours, which brings me to my next point.

If you truly believe that Counter-Strike had nothing to do with the story except describing the setting of the story, then get the fuck out of here and any other English-based forum and buy yourself "Hooked on Phonics" so you can correctly learn English the second time around.

I perfectly understand your argument about how one's environmental upbringing and personality plays a part in the murder. But unlike you, I can also discern the difference between motive and capability. Counter-Strike played a huge fucking part behind the kid's motive to kill the 17-year old. His fucked up personality for whatever reasons made him capable of such an act.

And unlike you, Freud, Darwinists and a lot of other traditional psychologists, I take a more contemporary approach by arguing that there's a multitude of factors that lead to the development of a person's psyche. Some of the influences affect us gradually while some of them have instantaneous effects such as losing a Counter-Strike game 5 hours ago. But since you fucking fail at English, let me reiterate my point in a Q&A format so that even a simpleton like you can understand my viewpoint.

Is Counter-Strike part of the story? Yes.
Is it the only factor behind the motive of the killer? Based on the story, I'd say yes.
Is it the only factor behind the murder? No.

I doubt you'll bother digesting anything I wrote except for the sake of finding minor errors to nitpick on. If 4-5 other people disagreeing with you didn't have any effect, I doubt my post would either. So let's settle this like Russians and battle it out at an Internet cafe over a game of Counter-Strike. And seeing how you hate losing based on this asinine thread, I'll be ready for the brick after our match.


i'd be suprised if travis ever posts again.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
May 07 2009 11:30 GMT
#102
I think we can all agree that is time to finally ban bricks. Will somebody please think of the children.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
May 07 2009 11:36 GMT
#103
i can get really really mad at counterstrike but man, ive never thought about bricking someone to death lol

but its a great game and if it got banned because some people with problems started murdering others, id have to pull out some bricks
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
May 07 2009 12:08 GMT
#104
On May 07 2009 05:37 b3h47pte wrote:
a 14 year old beat up a 17 year old? what? O.o


With a brick, not with bare hands.

4 years is enough, he'll probably die in prison or it will screw his life forever anyway.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 07 2009 12:14 GMT
#105
Where did he even get the brick?

Oh I forgot, in Russia, bricks shit you.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 07 2009 12:28 GMT
#106
he would have killed s1 else later on anyways, even if he was addicted to the game, if he had the instinct to kill if he loses something importnat he would have done anyways wtih a different scenario, like killing his wfie 10 years later when she cheated her... The thing is that nobody gives a shit if a russian man kills his wife, but if a russian ki kills another after a game that must be hyped
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 12:35:18
May 07 2009 12:29 GMT
#107


But, only 4 years, seriously? Being able to kill that easily and getting out of the prison at the age of 18... I don't understand why Russia is digging the grave of at least one other citizen of theirs.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
May 07 2009 14:24 GMT
#108
It's really amazing the amount of people incapable of digesting the news here. There's nothing in the news article besides what happened based on the information available at the time... pretty standard stuff. There's not a word about blaming valvue, cstrike or anything. Just simply facts.

Honestly, if you don't think murders of virtually any kind make the news, you really, really need to start picking up a newspaper.
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HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
May 07 2009 14:48 GMT
#109
Man this is aggravating.

That stupid kid should have just thrown the brick super far or into a pond to make it splash. I hate people.
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
May 07 2009 14:52 GMT
#110
Wow.. He beat up the person cos he lost? I think he's trying to proof he's isnt that inferior to the victim though.. That was cruel, and is also quite unreasonable.. He should train up and win the guy back on the same platform, and not to fight in another platform..
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HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
May 07 2009 14:56 GMT
#111
Well he can't win the person back, he killed him.

But I imagine in the afterlife, whether you believe in it or not, the 17 year old will probably be waiting with some sort of celestial brick in HIS hand. See? Justice will surely even out.
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 07 2009 16:03 GMT
#112
he should be killed as well imo.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 16:20:38
May 07 2009 16:20 GMT
#113
lol are they retarded? they basically stick a 14 y/o with a largely unformed personality in prison for four years and let him out at the age of 18... Surely he will become a valuable member of society t.t
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8119 Posts
May 07 2009 19:02 GMT
#114
I don't think CS is directly responsible, HOWEVER... it would be time to think a bit about how theses stupid ultra-violent and ultra-realistic games affect teenagers.

"Violent games are not responsible", "violent movies are not responsible", "violent crap children see on TV is not responsible"... So why the fuck every 6 month there is 30 people killed in high schools in US, Finland, Germany...?

If my children were playing games were the goal is too shut in the head a fucking realistic way their friend, I would be a bit worried. That's just not good for a teenager, nor anybody mental health.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8119 Posts
May 07 2009 19:10 GMT
#115
On May 08 2009 01:03 Zurles wrote:
he should be killed as well imo.

You don't need to be a fucking retard.

GEEEZZ are people idiots here or do they faint it?
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 07 2009 19:14 GMT
#116
wow, this is.... wow. wtf. the 14 yr old mustve ambushed him or some shit. like i said. always use a fucking brick for everything.
let me gently find this fucking video on youtube.
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MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 19:17:47
May 07 2009 19:16 GMT
#117
Here's my outtake on the whole violence and video games/media controversy.

I think that normal people have a set of ethics that are instilled into them at an early age from appropriate role models (eg: parents, family, friends, religion). But people who are lacking these figures are left with an empty hole when it comes to moral behavior causing great psychological instability. The mind tries to reach a state of balance by attempting to fill this void. It adopts values from any other available sources. When these sources include violent video games, a person who does not know better will emulate the game in real life.
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
May 07 2009 20:18 GMT
#118
On May 07 2009 08:40 Faronel wrote:
That's what you get for rushin bombsite A too many times.


haha, this made me laugh
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 07 2009 22:31 GMT
#119
On May 07 2009 13:34 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2009 12:54 travis wrote:
the rarity of what circumstances?


Out of those 1423 deaths a day in the year 2000, how many of them involved video games? There was a few links provided in this thread, but that was a span over how many years? Clearly, it's not as high of a figure as you'd like many of us to believe.



I don't know how many involved video games. That wasn't my point. I never thought that the mere mention of video games made a story so important on a video game site. But clearly most of you disagree with that, so fine I concede.


Show nested quote +
concrete facts? where are your concrete facts? does what you are saying even make sense?[


+ Show Spoiler +

no



I'm not the one going around trying to dictate what belongs in the General forum and what doesn't. If I ever did though, I would provide a link to the direct forum rule under question instead of spewing random bullshit.


Am I not allowed to post my opinion? You should try re-reading my first post. Where in it do I dictate what belongs in the forum and what doesn't?


And I would also know to shut the fuck up if several other people were telling me that I was wrong. I didn't want to be blunt about it, but since you decided to question my logic, I'll return the favor and show that you're the one with a retarded thought process.


wtf does that mean? every time some people disagree with me I should just leave the thread and not come back?


Counter-Strike was relevant to the murder. It was the trigger. Note that trigger does not mean the only fucking factor leading up to the murder. If you stopped acting like some kind of know-it-all, which would require a miracle in your case based on the numerous assumptions in your posts, then you'd realize I never stated my theory behind the kid's motive. I was merely criticizing yours, which brings me to my next point.


alright


If you truly believe that Counter-Strike had nothing to do with the story except describing the setting of the story, then get the fuck out of here and any other English-based forum and buy yourself "Hooked on Phonics" so you can correctly learn English the second time around.


don't understand wtf u are talking about


I perfectly understand your argument about how one's environmental upbringing and personality plays a part in the murder. But unlike you, I can also discern the difference between motive and capability. Counter-Strike played a huge fucking part behind the kid's motive to kill the 17-year old. His fucked up personality for whatever reasons made him capable of such an act.


no, the motive was not counterstrike. that makes no sense.

the motive was revenge, or jealousy, or anger, etc etc. what you are saying makes no sense.


And unlike you, Freud, Darwinists and a lot of other traditional psychologists, I take a more contemporary approach by arguing that there's a multitude of factors that lead to the development of a person's psyche. Some of the influences affect us gradually while some of them have instantaneous effects such as losing a Counter-Strike game 5 hours ago. But since you fucking fail at English, let me reiterate my point in a Q&A format so that even a simpleton like you can understand my viewpoint.


dude i have no clue wtf u are talking about. when were we discussing the factors that lead to the development of a person's psyche?


Is Counter-Strike part of the story? Yes.
Is it the only factor behind the motive of the killer? Based on the story, I'd say yes.
Is it the only factor behind the murder? No.

I doubt you'll bother digesting anything I wrote except for the sake of finding minor errors to nitpick on. If 4-5 other people disagreeing with you didn't have any effect, I doubt my post would either. So let's settle this like Russians and battle it out at an Internet cafe over a game of Counter-Strike. And seeing how you hate losing based on this asinine thread, I'll be ready for the brick after our match.


alright dude, I don't know what has gotten you quite so upset, but I am sorry for any rudeness i showed in this thread. I really don't feel like spending more time on this. Maybe I don't understand some stuff here and I am just totally wrong. Or maybe other people don't understand what I am trying to say. Whatever.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
May 08 2009 02:05 GMT
#120
How can you not understand that the motive was anger over counterstike? Is it really that hard of a concept? Holy shit
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