EPTTeen Killed Over Counter-Strike - Page 5
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Everywhere
United States97 Posts
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
On May 07 2009 05:14 CubEdIn wrote: ...so he went outside, waited for his friend to come out and beat him with a brick? ....fucking camper. IT'S SOO BAD but i LOL-ed | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On May 07 2009 12:54 travis wrote: the rarity of what circumstances? Out of those 1423 deaths a day in the year 2000, how many of them involved video games? There was a few links provided in this thread, but that was a span over how many years? Clearly, it's not as high of a figure as you'd like many of us to believe. concrete facts? where are your concrete facts? does what you are saying even make sense?[ + Show Spoiler + no I'm not the one going around trying to dictate what belongs in the General forum and what doesn't. If I ever did though, I would provide a link to the direct forum rule under question instead of spewing random bullshit. And I would also know to shut the fuck up if several other people were telling me that I was wrong. I didn't want to be blunt about it, but since you decided to question my logic, I'll return the favor and show that you're the one with a retarded thought process. Counter-Strike was relevant to the murder. It was the trigger. Note that trigger does not mean the only fucking factor leading up to the murder. If you stopped acting like some kind of know-it-all, which would require a miracle in your case based on the numerous assumptions in your posts, then you'd realize I never stated my theory behind the kid's motive. I was merely criticizing yours, which brings me to my next point. If you truly believe that Counter-Strike had nothing to do with the story except describing the setting of the story, then get the fuck out of here and any other English-based forum and buy yourself "Hooked on Phonics" so you can correctly learn English the second time around. I perfectly understand your argument about how one's environmental upbringing and personality plays a part in the murder. But unlike you, I can also discern the difference between motive and capability. Counter-Strike played a huge fucking part behind the kid's motive to kill the 17-year old. His fucked up personality for whatever reasons made him capable of such an act. And unlike you, Freud, Darwinists and a lot of other traditional psychologists, I take a more contemporary approach by arguing that there's a multitude of factors that lead to the development of a person's psyche. Some of the influences affect us gradually while some of them have instantaneous effects such as losing a Counter-Strike game 5 hours ago. But since you fucking fail at English, let me reiterate my point in a Q&A format so that even a simpleton like you can understand my viewpoint. Is Counter-Strike part of the story? Yes. Is it the only factor behind the motive of the killer? Based on the story, I'd say yes. Is it the only factor behind the murder? No. I doubt you'll bother digesting anything I wrote except for the sake of finding minor errors to nitpick on. If 4-5 other people disagreeing with you didn't have any effect, I doubt my post would either. So let's settle this like Russians and battle it out at an Internet cafe over a game of Counter-Strike. And seeing how you hate losing based on this asinine thread, I'll be ready for the brick after our match. | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
On May 07 2009 08:31 travis wrote: my point is that this story would have never gotten posted if it was just "kid kills another kid with a brick" u nvr noe.. it might have been.... posted i mean On May 07 2009 08:51 ultramagnetics wrote: Many countries have "internet cafes" due to lack of access to internet/computers among the populace. These cafes often times stay open all night and they have cheap deals for gamers to spend all night their gaming. that doesn't answer his question... wouldn't the parents fukin kill the child for being out so late? esp playing games? i noe im korea u need some1 old than 18? 21? to be w/ u if u r gonna stay @ internet cafe that late... On May 07 2009 09:59 Probe. wrote: The judge reduced the sentence because he was afraid the kid would smash his face with a brick too if unless he got on his good side. he'd be sentence ofr life or dead =.= how would he..... OMG UNLESS HE RESPAWNS! | ||
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DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7662 Posts
Deranged weird people that are attracted to violence or fantastical violence play games that involve violence. This does not reflect poorly on the game, or insinuate that only those people play those games it is just a fact; people do things they like. I don't think the fact that violent and insane people play video games that are violent is a big shocker for anyone. It also shouldn't shock anyone when someone acts out violently when they indulge in violent fantasy/thinking. This does not mean that counterstrike makes you violent, but simply that violent/crazy people feeding there insane-spankbank-brain with violence can produce violence. How is any of this shocking or bad for gaming or society in anyway. What is the matter with video games being viewed as dangerous? Maybe that boy would be alive today if the other boys parents had never allowed him to play counterstrike in the first place ..... I think being a parent has really changed my opinion on alot of things. I do see a direct correlation between who my son is around/what he watches and how he talks and acts. This doesn't mean I wouldn't allow him to play certain games, but that I understand the implications of some things(At least I think I do) | ||
NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
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gchan
United States654 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On May 07 2009 13:55 AttackZerg wrote: Travis, Deranged weird people that are attracted to violence or fantastical violence play games that involve violence. This does not reflect poorly on the game, or insinuate that only those people play those games it is just a fact; people do things they like. I don't think the fact that violent and insane people play video games that are violent is a big shocker for anyone. It also shouldn't shock anyone when someone acts out violently when they indulge in violent fantasy/thinking. This does not mean that counterstrike makes you violent, but simply that violent/crazy people feeding there insane-spankbank-brain with violence can produce violence. How is any of this shocking or bad for gaming or society in anyway. What is the matter with video games being viewed as dangerous? Maybe that boy would be alive today if the other boys parents had never allowed him to play counterstrike in the first place ..... I think being a parent has really changed my opinion on alot of things. I do see a direct correlation between who my son is around/what he watches and how he talks and acts. This doesn't mean I wouldn't allow him to play certain games, but that I understand the implications of some things(At least I think I do) Videogames should not be viewed as dangerous, that's ridiculous. Insane people are dangerous. If this kid beat someone with a brick over a game of CS, then god only knows what would happen if someone called him names at school. does the media affect us? sure. i watched the movie 300 and me and every other guy in the theatre felt like punching each other in the face. but were not crazy, and the movie 300 isn't dangerous. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7662 Posts
Like my post said, a person with an inclination, that feeds that inclination will do bad things. The thing feeding the inclination is not to blame for the persons actions but it definately is involved. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
I was already wondering where the obligatory Russia joke was. :p Sad stuff though, talk about having 0 perspective. :| | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On May 07 2009 18:12 AttackZerg wrote: I didn't say video games are dangerous, I said what is the matter with them being viewed as dangerous, you didn't provide an arguement to why it is bad to view them cautiously or skeptically? Like my post said, a person with an inclination, that feeds that inclination will do bad things. The thing feeding the inclination is not to blame for the persons actions but it definately is involved. Because it's a double standard. If were going to argue that videogames should be viewed cautiously, then attention needs to be brought to other outlets as well. although im sure you'd agree with this, just making sure. | ||
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United States5770 Posts
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KwarK
United States44379 Posts
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On May 07 2009 17:29 NeverGG wrote: I think there has to be something fundamentally wrong with a person when they can even consider beating someone with a brick. It's pretty scary to think we live in a world where things like this are so common place that they prompt jokes as opposed to simple shock. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On May 07 2009 19:42 Racenilatr wrote: This is why people play starcraft, because it's not as stressful as cs Tell that to HovZ | ||
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