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No one is disagreeing that the kid had problems to begin with. No one is accusing Counter Strike of being the sole factor behind the murder.
The reason why people are bashing travis is because he argued that Counter Strike was irrelevant to the story and that the story didn't belong in the General forum. He re-worded his argument after several people told him off.
No one has any problems with his "new" argument. It's his old one that people found absurd.
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On May 11 2009 15:37 MayorITC wrote: No one is disagreeing that the kid had problems to begin with. No one is accusing Counter Strike of being the sole factor behind the murder.
The reason why people are bashing travis is because he argued that Counter Strike was irrelevant to the story and that the story didn't belong in the General forum. He re-worded his argument after several people told him off.
No one has any problems with his "new" argument. It's his old one that people found absurd.
except that is at no point what I was saying. my "new" argument is the exact same as my old. I elaborated many times on what I meant, there was no old and new argument. In short what the hell are you talking about? My first 2 posts in the thread aren't even edited, so obviously they are my "old" argument.
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hm my theory about kids getting more and more violent, because of games is true. Well i don't mean that the game causes the violence, but kids generally becoming more violent. Like 8 years ago, I was like ok this gaming is heading to people fighting each other after game and here we are. It is really sad, that something like this happens.
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On May 07 2009 19:56 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2009 19:42 Racenilatr wrote: This is why people play starcraft, because it's not as stressful as cs Tell that to HovZ baaaaaaaaahahaha HovZ, what a nut.
This CS kid is obviously retarded. It doesn't matter if it's a game or whatever though, it's losing in a competitive environment that some people just can't control. I've seen it in all kinds of games, SC, CS, SF4, racing games, etc. SomeMost people just suck
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I gotta say I completely agree with travis on his general point. Most of you are arguing with travis that he said the post does not belong here because it is not gaming related, but I think you guys are really missing travis's point.
If I for example investigated this murder, I wouldn't have began dug into the CS evironment, because it is in the long run irrelevant to the kid's purpose of killing the guy. The kid was fucked up, and ok, what they were doing atm was playing CS, but since the kid was capable of murder then it could be over anything else in the first place. If a person shot some guy in the head over a game of poker for example, I wouldn't looked into the gameplay of poker, but all of the other factors instead.
My second point is that the media always seem to grab onto something bad when it happens if it's gaming related, because of the old belief that a game can make you go psycho. I do not think this is the case. If that was the case, then there prolly would be any TL.net. :p
So as a summary, the kids motive in this case was CS, but it wasn't CS's fault as a game that he did it.
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The boy has been sentenced to four years of imprisonment also under the circumstance that he did not intend to kill his victim
WTF?? Seriously??
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one of my friends also got almost beaten up by russians in an internet cafe when he was owning the crap out of them. he hear them saying "it's time to kick someones ass!" (in russian), he just got up and walked out of the place immediatley
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Korea: Starcraft didn't work becasue of popularity, it worked because you couldn't get beat up people in cybercafes because girls are stronger than the average man.
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