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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:41 GMT
#1
Dear TL,

I've got an odd dilemma with some even odder stipulations for you.

I need to sand a board in half by hand, or by some means without power tools.

Items/manpower I have to work with
-Sandpaper
-7 guys from 7 am to 5 pm
-No power tools allowed
-Any items I acquire have to fit in a backpack
-said tools have to be relatively quiet OR easy to hide quickly
-the board is 2 inches thick + has to look like not just like a cut
-it needs to be done in one day

If you have any idea, ANY idea at all then throw it out there. Ridiculous or ingenious I wanna hear it. This is of the utmost importance to me and 6 other guys. I'm going to be able to read this post up until 630 am tomorrow, and after that depending on other things I might get a second try.

And let's be logical here: if your idea might conflict with one of the stipulations but you're not sure then post it anyway. The worst that can happen is that the idea is utterly worthless.

A thousand thank yous and my eldest child,
KTT
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
April 21 2009 00:42 GMT
#2
A hand saw?
So wait? I'm bad? =(
sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
April 21 2009 00:44 GMT
#3
you have 10 hours and 14 hands. perhaps a butter knife

you're so sketchy btw
:)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 00:45 GMT
#4
this should be very easy. with that much time and 7 people, you shouldn't need anything other than the sandpaper and the board.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 02:17:46
April 21 2009 00:47 GMT
#5
Is this some kind of college prank>

Anyways, you can create a manpowered sander by rigging a rope with pulleys to increase the force and since you have 6 guys to run it then just need 1 to direct it. And switch off with the dudes for tool controller.

1 example of this is when you create a fire with the bowstring method. You wrap the bow around the string to hold it tight and to increase rotation by moving the stick instead of pulling the rope directly. And you have a stationary hand on the top with a rock or coconut shaped thing to hold it steady.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
April 21 2009 00:48 GMT
#6
*****Homework Thread Alert*****
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 21 2009 00:48 GMT
#7
Bunch of steakknives will do it no problem especially if you have that many hours.

Sounds sketchy as hell though, what the hell are you planning to do?!
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 00:49 GMT
#8
I guess you could make it easier by getting a wooden or cork block, and stick the sandpaper around the block, and then do the sanding with the block.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:49 GMT
#9
On April 21 2009 09:44 sMi.SyMPhOnY wrote:
you're so sketchy btw

Yeah...sorry I can't be more specific than this.

another stipulation - I can't saw this. And if I do I have to make it look like I sanded it

On April 21 2009 09:45 travis wrote:
this should be very easy. with that much time and 7 people, you shouldn't need anything other than the sandpaper and the board.


You would think so, wouldn't you? We tried this today. We all took turns sanding one spot as hard as we could and it only got down like 1/16''. It's really slow going. The sandpaper is a high grit but the friction or just the amount of sanding reduces it to feel almost like wet/dry sandpaper. And we don't have enough to be switching it out every hour.
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Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
April 21 2009 00:50 GMT
#10
I think with seven of you there, you have enough psionic power to simply break it in half if you guys concentrate long enough.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:50 GMT
#11
On April 21 2009 09:48 Hawk wrote:
*****Homework Thread Alert*****

haha trust me this has nothing to do with academics.

On April 21 2009 09:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Anyways, you can create a manpowered sander by rigging a rope with pulleys to increase the force and since you have 6 guys to run it then just need 1 to direct it. And switch off with the dudes for tool controller.

I don't get exactly what you're saying, but I love it. I'll bring some rope and stuff tomorrow and see what I can do.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 00:51 GMT
#12
On April 21 2009 09:50 Insane Lane wrote:
I think with seven of you there, you have enough psionic power to simply break it in half if you guys concentrate long enough.

lol, I only try to use my psionic powers when I'm drunk.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
April 21 2009 00:52 GMT
#13
If it has nothing to do with economics, why don't you go to the store and spend a few bucks for a saw? Or go to a neighbor to use one for the day?
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 00:54:03
April 21 2009 00:53 GMT
#14
On April 21 2009 09:50 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 09:48 Hawk wrote:
*****Homework Thread Alert*****

haha trust me this has nothing to do with academics.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 09:47 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Anyways, you can create a manpowered sander by rigging a rope with pulleys to increase the force and since you have 6 guys to run it then just need 1 to direct it. And switch off with the dudes for tool controller.

I don't get exactly what you're saying, but I love it. I'll bring some rope and stuff tomorrow and see what I can do.



I appended my post with a little bit of an example. I can't be bothered to figure out how exactly you would rig up the saw and pulleys but that's your job anyways.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 01:07:23
April 21 2009 01:06 GMT
#15
You definitely need to give more details. Is this a creativity exercise or is this a practical one? It's hard to answer your question without knowing.

Also, how straight does the cut have to be? What type of wood are you working with? Really, you don't really have to sand all the way through--just a groove so that you can snap it in half along where you sanded. Of course this is all affected by what type of wood you're working with (how strong it is, are you cutting perpendicular or parallel, etc). Alternatively, if you're still having trouble, you can just use acid to burn through part of it and to weaken the inside of the wood so you can snap it. The cheap household acid of choice is boric acid (the stuff used in pools), but there are others. But of course be VERY CAREFUL with the stuff as it can burn through your clothing very rapidly. Keep baking soda handy to neutralize it, and when you snap the wood, there will be acid inside the wood, so step away in case it sprays everywhere. Also this will probably weaken your wood a lot too if you were going to use it for some heavy duty stuff.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
April 21 2009 01:06 GMT
#16
Assuming said job is to go well, would you mind making a new thread about *why* you have done this?
And my idea is extremely simple:
Put the board on a table so both sides are exposed.
Two guys on each side sanding edge, each sanding one half. Then the other three guys can just chill until someone gets bored, tired, or sore.

You have 10 hours. Get the lowest number (I don't know *exactly* what is stands for, but lower is coarser) sandpaper you can get your hands on, and start working!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 01:10 GMT
#17
On April 21 2009 09:49 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
You would think so, wouldn't you? We tried this today. We all took turns sanding one spot as hard as we could and it only got down like 1/16''. It's really slow going. The sandpaper is a high grit but the friction or just the amount of sanding reduces it to feel almost like wet/dry sandpaper. And we don't have enough to be switching it out every hour.


well that is surprising. and hmm, you have limited sandpaper?

well charlie's idea is good but maybe hard to set up.

did you try taking the block and putting sandpaper around the edge of the block, so that you can use the edge of the block against the board - rather than the flat surface of the block?

like, so that the part that was rubbing against the board would be like the bottom of a V




Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
April 21 2009 01:11 GMT
#18
Lol is this some kind of frat thing?
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 01:25:57
April 21 2009 01:23 GMT
#19
If the board is not flamable/protected against it, and with a lot of care you could probably use threads soaked with alcohol or some kind of fuel surround the middle of the board and then light it.

Should after some tries melt enough to separate easily with your own hands. Not the cleanest cut but oh well, youll never get it done with sandpaper.

Its probably really dumb since ive never tried it with wood lol, but its a sweet way to cut plastic bottles for storage.

Oh yeah forgot that you need water to put out the fire soon.
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patrick321
Profile Joined August 2004
United States185 Posts
April 21 2009 01:26 GMT
#20
If it just has to look like it wasn't cut then cut it and sand the sides. Or break it and sand the sides, but that might be louder. You could also hammer multiple nails into it and pull them out to open it up a little and reduce the amount of sanding/cutting/breaking you'll be doing. Put enough nails into it and you might even be able to break it around a tree with 6 people pushing on either side.
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
April 21 2009 01:34 GMT
#21
This sounds illegal...
I assume you're going across the grain right? If you're going with it just split it with some chisels.

You could get a strong steel cable and a pulley. Start a groove for the cable in the wood where you want the cut and then, making the cable as tight as you can bring it around the pulley. Then turn it as fast as you can with a crank keeping the cable super tight. Its basically sandpaper but thinner...
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Ellis
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 01:59:32
April 21 2009 01:58 GMT
#22
Use a plane. It would be more efficient than sand paper, and you could always sand it down afterward to make it look smooth.
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 01:59:23
April 21 2009 01:58 GMT
#23
On April 21 2009 10:34 Zortch wrote:
This sounds illegal...
I assume you're going across the grain right? If you're going with it just split it with some chisels.

You could get a strong steel cable and a pulley. Start a groove for the cable in the wood where you want the cut and then, making the cable as tight as you can bring it around the pulley. Then turn it as fast as you can with a crank keeping the cable super tight. Its basically sandpaper but thinner...

What sounds illegal? Cutting wood?
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
April 21 2009 01:59 GMT
#24
just saw it and sand the cut

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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
April 21 2009 02:02 GMT
#25
Okay, get a rope, a weight, 2 nails and find two trees that are close enough to have both sides of your board touch comfortably. Put those nails into the trees, parallel, and rest the board so it makes an "H" between the two tree's. Now sling your rope over a branch as high above as possible and roughly (-3) to 3 feet in front of the board. Now attach the heaviest rock you can find to the rope, measure it so on release it will strike the board. Try to get the rock as far away as possible so it has the most time to accelerate and hope the board shatters. If you can't picture what I'm saying, think of a crude ass battering ram.....and if that fails you can man up and take turns drop kicking that shit or join up into an ass-kicking combination mega bot, with each one of your friends acting as a limb and you at the head, and using your detachable rocket arms to smash it. OR if your skilled with a flute, you can summon the compassionate woodland creatures to gnaw your way to victory. That's how'd I do it....
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 02:09 GMT
#26
On April 21 2009 10:58 Ellis wrote:
Use a plane. It would be more efficient than sand paper, and you could always sand it down afterward to make it look smooth.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


i thought about this, but I thought maybe he couldn't use it. Otherwise I don't understand why he can't use a saw.
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
April 21 2009 02:11 GMT
#27
Make a noose out of rope, tape the sandpaper to the inside, tighten around board. Then spin the noose around and around while pulling really hard. Strong guys hold on to the board on both ends.

With a well-made contraption, you get 360 degree cutting. The rope is easy to hide.
You can also find a way to fix one end of the board to the ground, then just walk in circles around it while pulling on the rope.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 02:16:57
April 21 2009 02:14 GMT
#28
On April 21 2009 10:58 Ellis wrote:
Use a plane. It would be more efficient than sand paper, and you could always sand it down afterward to make it look smooth.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I believe its impossible to cut a board this thick in half with this.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
April 21 2009 02:17 GMT
#29
On April 21 2009 11:14 Cloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 10:58 Ellis wrote:
Use a plane. It would be more efficient than sand paper, and you could always sand it down afterward to make it look smooth.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I believe its impossible to cut a board in half with this.

Why? You're just taking thin layers of wood off instead of sanding it down. I don't see why this wouldn't work.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 21 2009 02:19 GMT
#30
You cant go very deep with the blade, the tool itself gets in the way.
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
April 21 2009 02:25 GMT
#31
I don't understand why you can't use a hand saw and then sand it down.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 02:25 GMT
#32
On April 21 2009 11:19 Cloud wrote:
You cant go very deep with the blade, the tool itself gets in the way.


well you would just have to widen the trench so that it doesn't
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
April 21 2009 02:33 GMT
#33
welcome to the world of pledging

you are assigned impossible tasks that you will fail at so they can make you do shit which is hilarious for others. If you actually do it, they will assume you cheated.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
April 21 2009 02:36 GMT
#34
cut it until right before the point you need and then sand it the rest of the way...
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 21 2009 02:38 GMT
#35
On April 21 2009 11:25 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 11:19 Cloud wrote:
You cant go very deep with the blade, the tool itself gets in the way.


well you would just have to widen the trench so that it doesn't


I guess :/, still the ammount of wood youd have to cut is immense and the cut will be horrible.
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snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
April 21 2009 02:38 GMT
#36
2 guys hold it one sits on it apply more guys as needed
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
April 21 2009 03:22 GMT
#37
[image loading]


We used this in class for any sort of wood work, files down through wood fast enough (as well as flesh x_x) , but it's mainly for shaping the edges and then wrapping progressively less coarse sand paper over it to further refine your wood craft.

sorry if this sounds confusing. for example we made a wooden top (spinning toy) in class and i filed down a square wood block into a tube shaped hand grip for the launcher part.
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
April 21 2009 03:22 GMT
#38
Design a rope pully system so it saws throw the wood with a metal wire~

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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
April 21 2009 03:23 GMT
#39
Buy a wood Plane. I'm not sure does that go against your rules? Its shaving the wood more then cutting it really.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
April 21 2009 03:28 GMT
#40
it cant be loud because hes gonna do some prank to his neighbor. or he only has the middle of the night to do it. the lack of details makes it very suspicious

blood and sweat. use the sandpaper and 6 people. rougher sandpaper, of course.
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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 04:21 GMT
#41
I've got the habit of quoting the things I respond to, so this is a monster post. I'll spoiler it just so it's neater

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On April 21 2009 09:52 Hawk wrote:
If it has nothing to do with economics, why don't you go to the store and spend a few bucks for a saw? Or go to a neighbor to use one for the day?

Nothing to do with academics. I can't use a saw.


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2009 10:06 gchan wrote:
acid

haha


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On April 21 2009 10:06 Archaic wrote:
Assuming said job is to go well, would you mind making a new thread about *why* you have done this?

I'm sorry but I can't. Hopefully you'll get some more insight from other things I've quoted.


+ Show Spoiler +
And my idea is extremely simple:
Put the board on a table so both sides are exposed.
Two guys on each side sanding edge, each sanding one half. Then the other three guys can just chill until someone gets bored, tired, or sore.

I actually thought of this today. We tried it, but it sounded a lot better than it worked.


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2009 10:11 Fontong wrote:
Lol is this some kind of frat thing?


On April 21 2009 11:33 bdams19 wrote:
welcome to the world of pledging

you are assigned impossible tasks that you will fail at so they can make you do shit which is hilarious for others. If you actually do it, they will assume you cheated.


+ Show Spoiler +

On April 21 2009 10:26 patrick321 wrote:
If it just has to look like it wasn't cut then cut it and sand the sides.

Can't do this. If we could we would


On April 21 2009 10:34 Zortch wrote:
This sounds illegal...

your face is illegal

+ Show Spoiler +

I assume you're going across the grain right? If you're going with it just split it with some chisels.

You could get a strong steel cable and a pulley. Start a groove for the cable in the wood where you want the cut and then, making the cable as tight as you can bring it around the pulley. Then turn it as fast as you can with a crank keeping the cable super tight. Its basically sandpaper but thinner...

thats a really good idea. It goes along the same grain as charliemurphy's. Oh yeah. we don't have pulleys but we might manage somehow. thanks for the post


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2009 12:22 Railxp wrote:
We used this in class for any sort of wood work, files down through wood fast enough (as well as flesh x_x) , but it's mainly for shaping the edges and then wrapping progressively less coarse sand paper over it to further refine your wood craft.

sorry if this sounds confusing. for example we made a wooden top (spinning toy) in class and i filed down a square wood block into a tube shaped hand grip for the launcher part.

Yeah, I thought about this too but I don't have access to one and I'm not buying one.


And at that big expensive thing that takes off layers of wood: it might work, but we don't have access to one and we aren't gonna buy one. Thanks for the idea, though

2 other ideas I've come across:

Put sandpaper on the wheel of a bike and then spin the wheel.

Use the power washer that's nearby. We'd have to put some sort of grain in it so I'm not sure if it will work but I like power washers so I don't really think it matters...

Thanks for the ideas so far. We might actually get this done. I'll let you know how it goes
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
April 21 2009 05:09 GMT
#42
On April 21 2009 12:22 Railxp wrote:
[image loading]


We used this in class for any sort of wood work, files down through wood fast enough (as well as flesh x_x) , but it's mainly for shaping the edges and then wrapping progressively less coarse sand paper over it to further refine your wood craft.

sorry if this sounds confusing. for example we made a wooden top (spinning toy) in class and i filed down a square wood block into a tube shaped hand grip for the launcher part.

Ugh. Thanks for the mental image.
Liquipedia
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 05:25:10
April 21 2009 05:20 GMT
#43
get a round metal file

[image loading]


The bottom one. The top one is a flat file and would not produce the desired look.

it will create the same effect as doing it with sand paper and will take like 5 minutes if you put any effort into it at all.
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Priapus
Profile Joined March 2009
United States36 Posts
April 21 2009 05:21 GMT
#44
Try taking the tire off the metal wheel and use that as the pulley for the steel cable...
Eniram
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Sudan3166 Posts
April 21 2009 06:00 GMT
#45
[image loading]


wire saw
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Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
April 21 2009 06:04 GMT
#46
using wire or cable is going to look like you used a saw.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 21 2009 06:22 GMT
#47
you could try creating a black hole on both ends of the board
the gravities will rip the board in half
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 21 2009 06:28 GMT
#48
On April 21 2009 15:22 travis wrote:
you could try creating a black hole on both ends of the board
the gravities will rip the board in half

and how do you get the board back form the black holes?
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 06:28:53
April 21 2009 06:28 GMT
#49
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Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
April 21 2009 06:40 GMT
#50
On April 21 2009 15:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 15:22 travis wrote:
you could try creating a black hole on both ends of the board
the gravities will rip the board in half

and how do you get the board back form the black holes?


You just dive in after it silly.

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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 06:52:42
April 21 2009 06:49 GMT
#51
Sounds like you're just looking for ways to apply more friction faster. Bike wheels and chains are good for this (sandpaper +wheel, although that's not exactly easy to hide), or a chain type of friction system (pully/chain into friction).

the other thing that you might want to look at is applying chemical energy. In addition to acid (imo, a good idea, and it fits all of your criteria), you have fire and explosives (a machine gun firing in a line would do the trick, and be quite a bit of overkill >.> ) for fire, think lighter fluid or gasoline.

Depending on how much leverage you can get, you might also want to try just having everyone stand on it while holding rocks. Assume that you guys each weigh 150 lbs, carrying 50 pound rocks each, and you end up with a ton of force. Along the same lines, i bet if you can get a car or something similar, it just becomes a huge force problem.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 07:21:02
April 21 2009 07:04 GMT
#52
On April 21 2009 09:41 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
This is of the utmost importance to me and 6 other guys. KTT


u want us to share, but u don't share urself : ( do tell us more

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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 07:41:18
April 21 2009 07:37 GMT
#53
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
April 21 2009 07:40 GMT
#54
dimensions of the board?
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
April 21 2009 07:43 GMT
#55
Maybe he's got permission to visit one of his friends in jail. Now he's thinking of things to give his friend in jail to get out. I imagine they might have 7 men cells. That's why he has 7 people, one day and tight tool restrictions.
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway868 Posts
April 21 2009 08:17 GMT
#56
A. If the board is small enough, bring a replacement board that is already fabricated to look like the target board sanded in two. Also bring tools to remove the original board and attach the new pieces.

B. Get one of those tools that are like an ice pick (to make a block of ice into ice "cubes"). Use it to press against the wood. It should be more stealthy than a saw or a file. Alternatively/also bring chain cutters or branch cutters as this will make you able to exert more force. The sharp end of a compass or dead ball point pens could also work. These things won't actually cut the board, but they might help. It might just condense the wood, making it harder to sand down.

C. Even better is to get a chisel. Same stealth abilities, but you can actually cut off peels of wood with it.

D. Sharp rocks. Readily available anywhere you go.

E. Wood workers use a mix of water and alcohol to soften up wood before carving it. It may be something to look into unless it's treated wood and you intend to do something like carving.

F. Use a hot piece of metal to burn holes in the wood. You could try a soldering iron if you have access to electric power.

Each of these methods require you to sand the board down afterwards if it needs to look sanded. If needed, bring sawdust to spread on the ground after removing wood chips or other evidence.
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 08:42:42
April 21 2009 08:23 GMT
#57
axes are probably your best bet. been used for centuries. get one guy to use the axe and put the wood on a ridge and get the 6 other guys to stand on the two ends to encourage it to snap.
depending on how you're going to do this, you might want to soak the wood to make it more pliable, if you can. although you dismissed it, I think acid would help in softening the wood.if you're going to sand it, you need the wood to be dry.
if you were splitting a tree, you'd make some small crack in it (chisel?) and then hammer wedges into the crack to split it.
also, have you considered thermite? you'd need some aluminium and some magnesium.
you could also consider splitting things with expanding water as it turns to ice. you'd fill the crack with water and freeze it, as it expands it'll force the crack open (in the same way rocks are forced apart) you'd need something very cold and some water; can you get your hands on some liquid nitrogen or black ice?
just a thought - lightning smashes trees, I think, by evaporating the sap in them rapidy, which explodes and forces the tree apart. do you have access to electricity where you're going?
do you have a nail gun? put a lot of those in the wood in a line, then break it .
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 09:42:11
April 21 2009 09:33 GMT
#58
Take from a bicycle the pedals, chain, two gears. Get two stands, some rigid object to separate them, and a small wheel for the pulley. Sandpaper on wheel.
Other methods of friction: drag it on asphalt with a car and weight on top. Or with a bicycle. Or with 4 of your guys dog sled style. That last suggestion probably won't work very well, but if you use your lightest person as weight, it would be fun to watch.


To speed it up: you have to cut as close to 1 inch as you can. If you can't saw, try a whittling knife.

Weaken the wood to speed it up. Liquid nitrogen sounds ok, or you can sear the surface with fire carefully. Wood will burn from the surface not the core, so if you do burn it little by little, the charred surface should be easy to cut or sand. Wood doesn't conduct well, so you could put the board in inch ice to protect it once you get really close.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
April 21 2009 09:43 GMT
#59
Turtle sounds like a drama queen.

Perhaps he will show us some pictures of him in drag when this is all done? Yes, yes?
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 10:32:33
April 21 2009 10:31 GMT
#60
edit =|
Gnojfatelob
Profile Joined April 2008
Belgium216 Posts
April 21 2009 11:37 GMT
#61
On April 21 2009 14:20 Hurricane wrote:
get a round metal file

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The bottom one. The top one is a flat file and would not produce the desired look.

it will create the same effect as doing it with sand paper and will take like 5 minutes if you put any effort into it at all.


This problem was solved right here. Seeing you are with 7 guys, all put up one dollar and go buy one of those. Sand trough the board in minutes and spend the rest of the night playing drunk sc to celebrate.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17254 Posts
April 21 2009 13:11 GMT
#62
Ahh, this reminds me of all the beautiful days at school. Where during one classes I would always sit in the same spot and slowly but steadily bore through my desk, during 4 years of highschool I managed to get only halfway through and hope someone has picked up the work after my graduation.

For those interested: I didn't want to just make a hole in the desk. I wanted to cut it in half.

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Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-21 13:37:36
April 21 2009 13:33 GMT
#63
On April 21 2009 22:11 Manit0u wrote:
Ahh, this reminds me of all the beautiful days at school. Where during one classes I would always sit in the same spot and slowly but steadily bore through my desk, during 4 years of highschool I managed to get only halfway through and hope someone has picked up the work after my graduation.

For those interested: I didn't want to just make a hole in the desk. I wanted to cut it in half.

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I had a friend do this in elementary and middle school. Both times he was expelled for destruction of school property. Poor guy. He musta went on to high school to do the same thing.

On April 21 2009 10:58 Ellis wrote:
Use a plane. It would be more efficient than sand paper, and you could always sand it down afterward to make it look smooth.
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I was going to say to use this but he already has.

And what's the whole deal of sanding something down? I remember sanding alot of shit down in boy scouts when I was gaining my wood cutting merit badge but a whole board down? Im lost on this one sir.
ya had ya shot kid!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 21 2009 13:36 GMT
#64
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
April 21 2009 13:38 GMT
#65
On April 21 2009 22:36 Kennigit wrote:
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.


....i'll just get the librarians to pull it for me. GG.
ya had ya shot kid!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
April 21 2009 13:38 GMT
#66
On April 21 2009 22:36 Kennigit wrote:
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.


why not make the library a giant vending machine?
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KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 21 2009 13:57 GMT
#67
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2009 16:04 Physician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 09:41 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
This is of the utmost importance to me and 6 other guys. KTT


u want us to share, but u don't share urself : ( do tell us more


On April 21 2009 10:11 Fontong wrote:
Lol is this some kind of frat thing?


On April 21 2009 11:33 bdams19 wrote:
welcome to the world of pledging

you are assigned impossible tasks that you will fail at so they can make you do shit which is hilarious for others. If you actually do it, they will assume you cheated.





On April 21 2009 16:43 Konni wrote:
Maybe he's got permission to visit one of his friends in jail. Now he's thinking of things to give his friend in jail to get out. I imagine they might have 7 men cells. That's why he has 7 people, one day and tight tool restrictions.

I would definitely use a saw in this case

On April 21 2009 18:43 Showtime! wrote:
Turtle sounds like a drama queen.

Perhaps he will show us some pictures of him in drag when this is all done? Yes, yes?

You want to see pictures of me dressed in drag? >.>

On April 21 2009 22:36 Kennigit wrote:
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.

what happens when the lights malfunction, get stolen/switched, who will put all of these lights on all the books and how are you gonna convince librarians this will benefit libraries more than the current system?

And an update: we're trying to get a bike. My class got cancelled so I have time to post. I'm bringing in a knife and we're gonna whittle it in chunks/sand the whittled part.

We're also considering the power washer idea, and as soon as we find a suitable holder we're trying out charliemurphy's idea
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yooh
Profile Joined March 2009
China223 Posts
April 21 2009 14:06 GMT
#68
i dont even get it..
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
April 21 2009 15:24 GMT
#69
I wasn't joking about the file. If you want to waste your time doing dumb shit then gl, but a knife will take much longer and a power washer doesn't fit any of the parameters set in your original post.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 21 2009 15:45 GMT
#70
drag pics pl0x
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3977 Posts
April 21 2009 16:08 GMT
#71
if you're not going to tell us what this is for, i refuse to coop of course, what fun is it to think up solutions when you're not going to show any results....
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 21 2009 17:10 GMT
#72
so yea what is this for exactly? I'll show you how to make a drill with sandpaper, rope and sticks if you answer.
Life?
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
April 21 2009 17:11 GMT
#73
On April 22 2009 01:08 aseq wrote:
if you're not going to tell us what this is for, i refuse to coop of course, what fun is it to think up solutions when you're not going to show any results....


He can't say what it's for because if he tells then he won't be allowed into the frat. He quoted two people who said something about being pledged into a frat, though; I think that should be enough of an indicator.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 21 2009 18:29 GMT
#74
On April 21 2009 22:36 Kennigit wrote:
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.

that's brilliant
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
April 21 2009 18:36 GMT
#75
On April 22 2009 02:11 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2009 01:08 aseq wrote:
if you're not going to tell us what this is for, i refuse to coop of course, what fun is it to think up solutions when you're not going to show any results....


He can't say what it's for because if he tells then he won't be allowed into the frat. He quoted two people who said something about being pledged into a frat, though; I think that should be enough of an indicator.


So either, people in the frat read TL, and knows hes trying to cheat, or they don't and it doesn't matter if he tells us.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
April 21 2009 18:42 GMT
#76
So you can't use any caustic substances? Caustic soda is used as a drain detergent, it's very effective, you can buy it for a few bucks in many places.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 21 2009 20:59 GMT
#77
On April 22 2009 03:29 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 22:36 Kennigit wrote:
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.

that's brilliant

patent that shit asap obv.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
April 21 2009 21:01 GMT
#78
On April 22 2009 03:36 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2009 02:11 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On April 22 2009 01:08 aseq wrote:
if you're not going to tell us what this is for, i refuse to coop of course, what fun is it to think up solutions when you're not going to show any results....


He can't say what it's for because if he tells then he won't be allowed into the frat. He quoted two people who said something about being pledged into a frat, though; I think that should be enough of an indicator.


So either, people in the frat read TL, and knows hes trying to cheat, or they don't and it doesn't matter if he tells us.

he just quoted it because people who don't read thread are ignorant douches and he doesn't feel like wasting time on the idiots, by typing.
? my guess
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 22 2009 03:25 GMT
#79
On April 21 2009 22:38 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 22:36 Kennigit wrote:
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.


why not make the library a giant vending machine?


Much better idea. My money's on this.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
April 22 2009 04:03 GMT
#80
Use a rasp.. it's like a cheese grater for wood. Then once you're done with that use some high grit sand paper to rough it up and voila.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
April 22 2009 04:48 GMT
#81
On April 22 2009 12:25 CubEdIn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 22:38 pachi wrote:
On April 21 2009 22:36 Kennigit wrote:
I had a wierd idea in bed last night. Libraries should have a little LED on the spine of the book so when you search it on a computer the LED pops up. That way you don't have to spend 5 minutes reading numbers on the side. Awesome amirite? Copyright Kennigit 2009. Could do the same thing at indigo/chapters. Then detach the light at front counter.


why not make the library a giant vending machine?


Much better idea. My money's on this.


I'm thinking of a kindle, or something like that might be easier.
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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
April 22 2009 05:57 GMT
#82
So yeah I'm in help week too for my frat.
...
I'm told the P is silent

I've had to sort sprinkles by color in a dark kitchen with only a box of matches for light
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
April 22 2009 09:03 GMT
#83
On April 22 2009 14:57 Flakes wrote:
So yeah I'm in help week too for my frat.
...
I'm told the P is silent

I've had to sort sprinkles by color in a dark kitchen with only a box of matches for light

open the microwave
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 09:12:22
April 22 2009 09:10 GMT
#84
You have tongues, put them to good use boys.

That board won't stand a chance.
Remember Violet.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 22 2009 13:18 GMT
#85
On April 22 2009 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
You have tongues, put them to good use boys.

That board won't stand a chance.

are you suggesting I yell at a board to break it? hurt its feelings

"my wood is harder than yours and I'm not even a real tree"

Well the rope + spinny sandpaper stick idea was working really well. When the people running this thing realized it was going to work, some of them thought we weren't allowed to do it and most of them were in respect of our ingenuity. We can't do it anymore, but having people on our side definitely helps this week a ton. Thanks, guys
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