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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 14 2009 19:16 GMT
#21
lol my mouse and keyboard are on my bed ;p i play with a screen facing to my bed and i sit on my bed and my mouse is on my bed... haha i'm not lazy it's just my tv broke so I had no other way of watching shit unless i made my moniter face my bed.
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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
April 14 2009 21:17 GMT
#22
On April 15 2009 04:03 NEwAcC) wrote:
While there probably is an "optimal" starcraft sensitivity level where you get the perfect combination of speed and accuracy, I definitely think most people (myself included) have gotten used to playing starcraft with our sensitivities set higher than they should be.


Yeah I guess this thread is only written for people who actually care about raising their maximum potential... I really hope no one who wants to be the best they can would stick with something less than optimal because they are too stubborn to change. It takes VERY little time to adjust to a new sensitivity.
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
April 14 2009 23:05 GMT
#23
Forgot to put this when I made OP
Also for greater control over your mouses sensitivity which helps a lot with gradual changes I highly suggest this program.. http://download.cnet.com/Mouse-Speed-Switcher/3000-2094_4-10880983.html

It's free, it's tiny and it won't ask you to install and toolbars.. it's main purpose to on the fly sensitivity changing but it also gives you twice as many option to choose from when picking your sensitivity.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 14 2009 23:36 GMT
#24
lol small note my ass
My mouse usage seems pretty efficient to me and I know if I tried to force a change it wouldn't happen so I'll just stick with what I am doing now but nice guide(or note or w/e you want to call it).
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
April 14 2009 23:44 GMT
#25
Aw, my Popoint record got busted. :p
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Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 00:04:44
April 15 2009 00:03 GMT
#26
I disagree with the lowering the sensitivity. I use a razor lacheis which is an ok mouse, nothing amazing, but if i play with anything lower than the absolute maximum i feel strange. I don't move my hand/arm at all when playing, i just use my fingertips and it's very accurate and quick.

The fingertips are far more sensitive than the hand or arm muscles. I'd say about 3/4 of an inch square moves my entire screen and it's not an issue. Whatever you get used to playing with is what's good.

I have friends who on the fly swap sens depending on if they are using railgun/rocket in q3 for instance which makes sense for that type of game, but for RTS you really only need 1 sens and it should be w/e you're able to operate at quickly without making mistakes.

edit: I use an icemat for my mousepad which i won at some lan.. it's just a piece of frosted glass basically, but it seems to work very well compared to the alloy pads i've used.
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 01:26:41
April 15 2009 00:44 GMT
#27
On April 15 2009 08:44 SonuvBob wrote:
Aw, my Popoint record got busted. :p


Haha yeah so far my best time is 2.566 and it won't get any better since I won't be playing with my right hand anytime soon, under 2.5 is definitely possible but certainly not by a significant amount... I will hopefully do it with my left hand soon enough.

[image loading]


If you beat my 2.566 I'll have to go back to my right for as long as it takes to catch up.

Seriously anyone is capable of times like these, it just takes the right setup and a little practice.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 15 2009 03:55 GMT
#28
I just turned down the sensitivity two notches
Used to be half an inch across the screen (ingame), now it's somewhere between 1 and 1.5 inches
It's such a pain clicking things D:
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 04:15:31
April 15 2009 04:11 GMT
#29
Yeah, I had a crap setup and got 2.8

Still on that crap setup, so I'm not trying again any time soon. :p
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 04:28:35
April 15 2009 04:26 GMT
#30
So can I get 5.5 notches with regedit?

k this was definitely not a small note about mice, took me like .... longer than i usually do to read an OP... switching over to my recessive hand :O naw. theres no way I can position my right hand over my keyboard so that my hand doesn't move.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 04:49:42
April 15 2009 04:49 GMT
#31
On April 15 2009 13:26 OmgIRok wrote:
So can I get 5.5 notches with regedit?

k this was definitely not a small note about mice, took me like .... longer than i usually do to read an OP... switching over to my recessive hand :O naw. theres no way I can position my right hand over my keyboard so that my hand doesn't move.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q149228/
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To calculate the mouse speed under Windows NT, three settings are used: Mouse Speed, MouseThreshold1, and MouseThreshold2.

Mouse Speed sets the relationship between mouse and cursor movement when the value of either MouseThreshold1 or MouseThreshold2 is exceeded. When this occurs, cursor movement accelerates according to the value of MouseSpeed.

MouseThreshold1 and MouseThreshold2 set the maximum number of pixels the mouse can move between mouse interrupts before the system alters the relationship between mouse and cursor movement. If the mouse movement exceeds the threshold defined by MouseThreshold1 and if MouseSpeed is greater than 0, the system moves the cursor at twice the normal speed. If the mouse movement exceeds the threshold defined by MouseThreshold2 and if MouseSpeed is 2, the system moves the cursor at four times the normal speed.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse
I have no clue what any of these registry settings do...
Edit: All 3 of mine are at 0 though o_O
surfed
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada16 Posts
April 15 2009 05:00 GMT
#32
@inReacH:

A bit off topic here.. but I looked though your "The Switch" post and something really caught my eye.
It wasn't about your idea thought

Whats the name of that keyboard you're using? ~ it looks amazing
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 14:26:41
April 15 2009 14:24 GMT
#33
On April 15 2009 13:26 OmgIRok wrote:
So can I get 5.5 notches with regedit?

k this was definitely not a small note about mice, took me like .... longer than i usually do to read an OP... switching over to my recessive hand :O naw. theres no way I can position my right hand over my keyboard so that my hand doesn't move.


Here use this, the getcurrent button is useful but know that the middle of normal windows sensitivity is = 1 below the middle of this program.

On April 15 2009 08:05 inReacH wrote:
Forgot to put this when I made OP
Also for greater control over your mouses sensitivity which helps a lot with gradual changes I highly suggest this program.. http://download.cnet.com/Mouse-Speed-Switcher/3000-2094_4-10880983.html

It's free, it's tiny and it won't ask you to install and toolbars.. it's main purpose to on the fly sensitivity changing but it also gives you twice as many option to choose from when picking your sensitivity.

Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 15 2009 14:26 GMT
#34
i heard when your hand is on it's side you will get the most optimal positioning. I think there was a thread about this a while ago.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
April 15 2009 14:40 GMT
#35
On April 15 2009 23:26 Amber[LighT] wrote:
i heard when your hand is on it's side you will get the most optimal positioning. I think there was a thread about this a while ago.


You mean this thing right?
[image loading]


I would agree that the positioning looks good but I haven't seen any mice with this design that allow you to use your fingers to help snap to the location you want which is really important.

These mice all have to be really large and heavy because the buttons are on the side which mean they have to make it easy for your thumb to offer counter-pressure or simply clicking can throw you off.

This is mostly speculation but I'm confident enough to not want to try it out with the current designs available... It's possible it could evolve into something good soon enough.
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
April 15 2009 16:18 GMT
#36
On April 15 2009 14:00 surfed wrote:
@inReacH:

A bit off topic here.. but I looked though your "The Switch" post and something really caught my eye.
It wasn't about your idea thought

Whats the name of that keyboard you're using? ~ it looks amazing


Razer Lycosa
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 16:24:59
April 15 2009 16:23 GMT
#37
On April 15 2009 23:40 inReacH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2009 23:26 Amber[LighT] wrote:
i heard when your hand is on it's side you will get the most optimal positioning. I think there was a thread about this a while ago.


You mean this thing right?
[image loading]


I would agree that the positioning looks good but I haven't seen any mice with this design that allow you to use your fingers to help snap to the location you want which is really important.

These mice all have to be really large and heavy because the buttons are on the side which mean they have to make it easy for your thumb to offer counter-pressure or simply clicking can throw you off.

This is mostly speculation but I'm confident enough to not want to try it out with the current designs available... It's possible it could evolve into something good soon enough.



Haha that's the abomination there

Personally I prefer just the two clicks and a lightweight mouse that holds my fingers off the mousepad. Don't need much more than that I guess.

I'm actually excited to see you followed up on this I remember reading everything and then nothing for a while
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
April 15 2009 17:08 GMT
#38
On April 15 2009 13:11 SonuvBob wrote:
Yeah, I had a crap setup and got 2.8

Still on that crap setup, so I'm not trying again any time soon. :p


Bahaha I couldn't resist..



I'm willing to bet that despite you considering your setup pretty shitty you had fairly low sensitivity.
Blyf
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Denmark408 Posts
April 15 2009 23:32 GMT
#39
Gread read. I feel your perfectionism... It took me about 500 hours of research to buy a new mouse, only to hate it, ditch it, and go back to fixing my old mx300 with some ducktape.
"ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin --- wtf? begets isn't a word. quit trying to make up words, fuckface. - Some idiot --- D3 Evelynn main with a side of Ashe/Tristana
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
April 16 2009 00:54 GMT
#40
I first started really paying attention to the mice and mousepads I use when I joined a UT2K4 clan. I found I played the game SIGNIFICANTLY better with lower sensitivity and have kept my mice at low sensitivity for every game ever since.

As for mousepads, I've had an expensive large one, and now use a medium sized cheap Belkin one. I like the medium sized Belkin one better actually, and it was like $30 cheaper. It fits easily on my desk and I can play all the games I want without any problem.
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