thats very true. Someone who people already thinks he hacks wouldnt go and make it even more obvious when there are like 6 obs in the game. why would he do something like sent 3 scvs to an unseen mineral patch. Plus his level of skill in the game is nothing compared to his true skill. Seems to me it was someone spoofing his name who doesnt like him. who pretended it was him so ppl would think he hacks
note: how many fake replays and how many ppl had name spoofs back then

Cee.Lo

Canada103 Posts

December 10 2002 23:12 GMT

#102

why not just ask drone is the game was real?

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

December 10 2002 23:42 GMT

#103

that it's Testie in that replay shouldn't even be an issue :/

ToKoreaWithLove

Norway10161 Posts

December 10 2002 23:56 GMT

#104

gejesus what a discussion!

Testie has been PROVEN TO HACK TWICE .. HE EVEN ADMITTED IT!!

This is fact, but why are you discussing it? If you want to play with a cheater, go ahead do so, if you want an abuser in your tourney, by all means invite him. But why would you waste your time on someone you know is all lies, abuse and bullshit when there are a 1000 well-mannered, legit players to pick from?

BlaZingThai

United States6 Posts

December 11 2002 00:02 GMT

#105

I bet you half or at least some of the "gosu community" hacked before and never got caught and still are highly respected "well-mannered" players. But also hold the same guilt and shame as Testie has. so just because one has been proven cheated before and now has quit cheating, shouldnt mean that he has to suffer when theres probably tons of good respected known players that have done it also but never got caught. I bet you theres well known players right now that have hacked in the passed and who are legit now just the same as testie who are not taking as much heat as testie is just because they were never caught.

I know that testie doesnt hack anymore because of his live performances over the last 2 years are spectacular and also from recent replays.

Gryffindor_us

United States5606 Posts

December 11 2002 00:49 GMT

#106

I think you guys are giving this guy way to much attention. Hes probably sitting at his computer laughing at the attention. I think hes the kind of person who is addicted to attention. Just an opinion, hehe its quite entertaining to see the "debate".

Liquid`Drone

Norway28784 Posts

December 11 2002 05:20 GMT

#107

okay to clear up some :

that game was the 4th game in a series of 4 games me and testie played a l o n g time ago. they were being played cause testie wanted to redeem himself after losing 0-3 against me in a tournament final 2 days after 1.08 came out. (this was several months after that tournament though.. ) I could have proven this back when scdynasty.com or net or whatever was still online, cause I had posted a replay there dating 7 months before the "hack game" was published revealing him as a hacker. (I didn't notice that the 3 scvs were a disturbance when I played the game, doing it was really new then and I thought it was possible. then I suddenly remembered the game 7 months later when I had found out it was impossible and I was like "holy wtf" and then posted the replay explaining why testie was a hacker.)

now, why would I post a replay entitling it as "me vs testie game 4 in a series of 4 games"(that ended 2-2, me getting buttfucked in the first two, the #1 game was posted too and nobody thought testie was sucking then..) on a site 7 months before I posted it on br.com if it was in fact not testie?

as to why testie was playing so weird, it was probably partially caused by it being vanilla starcraft and not broodwar, so no goliath range.. and the reason why I didn't find him scouting with 3 scvs to be a surprise was that one of the observers stupidly said something equivalent to "wow that's a weird strat drone"..

this being said, I think even testie might have matured in the past two years.. I know im a whole lot mature now compared to when I was 16 myself.. but you never know.

iloveo.0

Egypt43 Posts

December 11 2002 12:05 GMT

#108

TESTIE hack that is for sure.

Nuttie

Poland302 Posts

December 11 2002 12:58 GMT

#109

i like his game vs arang, these vultures

i know i know...

[GiTM]-Ace

United States4935 Posts

December 11 2002 12:59 GMT

#110

ok well im not 100% but i think he stopped.But does it even matter anymore.He is most likely legit.And if u hate him for gettin caught hacking twice then so be it.Its not even important actually

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

December 11 2002 13:00 GMT

#111

I heard that in the boxer vs ggon replay (it was ggon right?) he did something similar, is it possible that this was the same thing? Otherwise it is quite obvious he was cheating (althought he might have been able to bunch up the scvs by getting one of them to mine and the rest to bunch up and then go straight through the goon. Not that I think that is possible but I just thought about it and I am going to test it now....

Regards FrozenArbiter

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

December 11 2002 13:02 GMT

#112

Bah, too lazy to test that now-_-

Regards FrozenArbiter

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

December 11 2002 13:15 GMT

#113

Btw don't get me wrong- seeing as how he even tried to deny the authenticy of the replay it should be clear that he is hacking, however I would like to know if that might work, seeing as how bunched up scv's tend to move past lotz of stuff.

Regards FrozenArbiter

fZ-DoGG

Canada73 Posts

December 11 2002 13:21 GMT

#114

Also remember that Testie would have been a 14 or 15 year old kid who got his kicks out of winning and annoying people. Now that he's 1. more competetive 2. Older now he has matured and im sure does not hack like the past.

LumberJack

United States3355 Posts

December 11 2002 13:29 GMT

#115

dogg, why are u defending him? u haven't been in the community 1/4 the amount of times that we have. You don't remember naz playing testie on CL and naz getting so fucking pissed losing like 13straight, cause testie claimed he was a "legit player". there is so much shit that has gone on, ur just focusing on like 1-2 things, all of the people that have been here, know there are like 30+ =\. also, i think testie's profile is funny.

"me losing wcg is like tiger woods losing an amature tournament, and no i don't want to talk about it"

rofl, he got owned pretty hard at wcg =\ and the reasoning behind that, is this is the kid that claims to having winning recs vs most of the kor pros, claims to beat arang on multiple occaisions, as well as eji. And he can't even "compete" vs canadian players?

Liquid`Spy

Netherlands1301 Posts

December 11 2002 14:01 GMT

#116

and the thread goes on and on..

FuDDx

United States5015 Posts

December 11 2002 14:07 GMT

#117

can we stop this thread plz !!!!!!!!!!!

fZ-DoGG

Canada73 Posts

December 11 2002 14:54 GMT

#118

Lumberjack...
1. testie beat all of the canadian players and the guy he lost to was a chinese player with the fastest hands in the tournament who ive seen beat many "top" players. so dont go accusing testie of being a bad live player. go watch the replays. at the wcg testie went 3-0 straight with Smuft who was there during practice games.
2. so the only reason naz loses to testie 13 straight because testie is a "hacker" or was he just better?

)Is(Honest

Korea (South)417 Posts

December 11 2002 16:17 GMT

#119

fZ-DoGG your not getting it..
When Nazgul played him (which is like WAY~~ long tym ago)
thats when Testie was "proven" to hack

you shoudln't make any comments out of that shit yo

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

December 11 2002 16:23 GMT

#120

During CL, Testie did have quite a number of games that I obs which were quite suspicious. But it was only a personal feeling and that is why neither Cloud or I restricted Testie from the ladder.

DoGG, you said Testie beat Smuft 3-0 during practice games. You're right, it was only practice games. During CL, [LD]1, aka LustedSmurf, Smuft, had a much better record than Testie and a winning ratio in games against Testie. And if I remember corrected, team [LD] consistently won more games compared to team DS-.