EPThes playing wgtour...
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
hes playing wgtour... | ||
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Pomozite
Croatia647 Posts
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
here is testie's list of major lies 1. acted like he was a legit player 2. got caught with maphack 3. said he quit maphack and acted as legit player 4. got caught with maphack 5. lied that 'liquid`drone vs testie' was fake replay 6. acted like hes a legit player 7. said he will quit SC and cameback what a liar he is... Testie is going to hell =( he must ask for forgiveness to god >_< | ||
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Liquid.Venice
United States916 Posts
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
On December 06 2002 05:54 )Is(Honest wrote: Testie is professional liar here is testie's list of major lies 1. acted like he was a legit player 2. got caught with maphack 3. said he quit maphack and acted as legit player 4. got caught with maphack 5. lied that 'liquid`drone vs testie' was fake replay 6. acted like hes a legit player 7. said he will quit SC and cameback what a liar he is... Testie is going to hell =( he must ask for forgiveness to god >_< Hahaha, OWNED! In language, I think it's safe to say, Honest>mensrea>Testie. | ||
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Smorrie
Netherlands2928 Posts
7. Said he would quit SC and came back  | ||
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Qvark
Sweden185 Posts
Cant see anything whatsoever indicating hack. He hacked 1 year ago or whatever in some fungame on inet, so what? To those who say like 'he hacks bc he didnt do well in WCG canada' - you're pretty damn stupid if you see that as some kind of proof or even index | ||
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Qvark
Sweden185 Posts
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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Shadalator
United States5 Posts
Anyway, I am at school...but at my house I have a screenshot of Testie, Nooks, and myself in a channel with about 25-30 Bots for spamming. If I remember they are even named TestieBot# and so on. I'll upload that later today, if ya'll are interested. Sucks he is involved with WGTour.   | ||
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halpmeh
United States333 Posts
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
that said, he obviously cheated all thru till about 1.5 years ago; being a clever cheater against somewhat known players, flagrant against newbs and turning it off against respected members of the community. those unnamed 1500 ladder players of years past? him, on multiple accounts, during his hiatus' whenever the community was pissed at him. he has a shit computer and wasn't playing any fps or aoe2 or anything else. he was playing bw. the solidity of his game is obviously due to years of hacking against decent players (x17) while accumulating thousands of hours of experience. any player who has played as much as he has can win 90% of his games against anything but pro-level competition. he also knows more about who has hacked in the bw community then anyone else on the planet, having played chess with hackers the world over. none of this makes up for his lack of handspeed and excessive "templeness". is he hacking today? i doubt it. he played very safe and "korean" at wcg canada. his playing 2 hat main on land at wcg canada suggests that he was clean for a long period before that (2 hat main is pure skill). now the year before, he woulda raped smuft any matchup but pvp on land and lost any matchup on valhalla. i was there and i can tell you that he woulda also lost to yosh on any map had they played. he had very good spots on temple vs grrrr but choked, and woulda got raped hardcore on valhalla. none of this is that far off his online performance, at least over the past 1.5 years. before that he was notorious on east but he didn't do shit in tournies (i2e2? pgl s2? bw.com?). i kinda like testie but his online persona is far beyond rescue. | ||
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lovingdrugs
Canada6 Posts
1]if you were someone good, and you got caught hacking, then you stopped and after a while you became better but people still thought you are a hacking newbie, would that be nice? think about it, i personally do not think that Testie hacks and those who do should just  | ||
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lovingdrugs
Canada6 Posts
lol man come on, if SlayerS_`BoxeR` came up to you and said u hack and abuse, would someone believe you or him. for example you can say Testie hacks and some people might still believe you because ur in )is( wahoo lol but testie on the other hand might not be in such a known clan and could still own you without you telling him he hacks, even if he doesnt  | ||
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lovingdrugs
Canada6 Posts
and i dont think god really will care if u hacked on broodwar even if he likes the game as much as u might do thx  | ||
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Liquid.Venice
United States916 Posts
End of story. | ||
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lovingdrugs
Canada6 Posts
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Liquid.Venice
United States916 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On December 06 2002 23:45 kidd wrote: If you think it's so bad, don't play with him, end of story. It should only matter if you play him and he hacks and beats you because of it, if he hacks but would have beat you nonetheless I still don't think it matters. problem: he beats others and gets into the top 16 tournament where I could be forced to play him if he's allowed to play. | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
I believe there are no rules (yet) for someone who got caught hacking twice. | ||
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Misca
Netherlands605 Posts
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
If you shoot someone in spring, can you not be convicted after summer has started? | ||
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RowdyBob
Australia206 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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 I don't see why it can't be compared though. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
If Testie cheated once, shame on him... if Testie cheats twice, shame on the people who let him.. | ||
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Qvark
Sweden185 Posts
I think the time for cheating in an COMPUTER GAME should be rather short. So you dont like him? Understandable. Dont want to play him? OK Want him banned from wgt bc of some replay which is 1,5 years old + the 'common knowledge' that he's lied a couple of times? Get real ffs | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
If people just keep letting him participate in more tournaments (same with letting him get away with it w/o any consequences), then he'll just continue to hack since there's no reason not to. He doesn't have to worry about his reputation, it's already ruined. So why not hack in a tourney? So far he's still being allowed to play in a major league despite his transgressions. Why let a player with a confirmed past of cheating possibly take the spot of a legit player? Try to think of how this might affect an innocent person's chances of making it to the top. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
I could play myself to the top 16, turn on the maphack and it wouldn't matter. Because next season I can play anyway? I don't like him for the single reason that he's unable to stop hacking. Nothing more, nothing less. | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
On December 07 2002 02:34 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Why not? Does he make the rules? If you shoot someone in spring, can you not be convicted after summer has started? dats word of wisdom from nazgul HACK = NEVER BE FORGIVEN | ||
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N.sL)_CirCle
New Zealand478 Posts
but how are u going to stop him? even if his mannertestie acct gets banned he can just create a new one. it would take 5 mins and no one would know who he was... | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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N.sL)_CirCle
New Zealand478 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
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esk0
Sweden1393 Posts
On December 06 2002 19:11 Casper... wrote: testie is a very solid player. that said, he obviously cheated all thru till about 1.5 years ago; being a clever cheater against somewhat known players, flagrant against newbs and turning it off against respected members of the community. those unnamed 1500 ladder players of years past? him, on multiple accounts, during his hiatus' whenever the community was pissed at him. he has a shit computer and wasn't playing any fps or aoe2 or anything else. he was playing bw. the solidity of his game is obviously due to years of hacking against decent players (x17) while accumulating thousands of hours of experience. any player who has played as much as he has can win 90% of his games against anything but pro-level competition. he also knows more about who has hacked in the bw community then anyone else on the planet, having played chess with hackers the world over. none of this makes up for his lack of handspeed and excessive "templeness". is he hacking today? i doubt it. he played very safe and "korean" at wcg canada. his playing 2 hat main on land at wcg canada suggests that he was clean for a long period before that (2 hat main is pure skill). now the year before, he woulda raped smuft any matchup but pvp on land and lost any matchup on valhalla. i was there and i can tell you that he woulda also lost to yosh on any map had they played. he had very good spots on temple vs grrrr but choked, and woulda got raped hardcore on valhalla. none of this is that far off his online performance, at least over the past 1.5 years. before that he was notorious on east but he didn't do shit in tournies (i2e2? pgl s2? bw.com?). i kinda like testie but his online persona is far beyond rescue. "2 hat main is pure skill" hmmm.. since when? | ||
Liquid`Drone
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iD.Twisted
Netherlands3102 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On December 07 2002 18:29 Excalibur_Z wrote: hehe i know it was just a analogy, but casinos now a days have this big data base that they send to all other casicos. It keeps the name, and a picture of the cheater in it.I think the best analogy would be like if Testie was caught cheating at a casino (was mentioned before). The casino can ban him, but there are plenty of neighboring casinos to go to. Eventually all of them will ban the cheater, but that will take a very long time since all the casinos are independent of one another. | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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fZ-DoGG
Canada73 Posts
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manner.king
Korea (South)24 Posts
Lets try to keep it a little more civilized here. I think a lot of people will agree with me that we don't enjoy logging onto our favorite forums(broodwar)and seeing such immaturity, hatred and outbursts of insults. If you are going to insult in a thread at least do it in a unique way, maybe something that will come across as comical. Thanks appreciate it. Manner.  | ||
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Liquid.Venice
United States916 Posts
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
On December 08 2002 08:47 fZ-DoGG wrote: you guys are all going by testies games from like 1.5 years ago.. have u seen any of his new games since the new and improved testie has came about? if he hacked why would i see him in games eg: shuttle flying into a pack of goons filled with 2 reavers or mass scans constantly.. ive seen him make average human mistakes in games that there is no way possible it can relate to hack. I think most of your problems is Jealousy especially you nazgul.. losing what 0-16 to him looksl ike it makes u mad so u come onto your own forum and get all your little "fans" to back you up. your nothing. you claim testie hacks because he owns you and you got Yosh kicked out of WGTour because he owns you and you are jealous and u accused him of hacking. So the only people you like "dont hack" and whoever u cant beat is a "hacker" face it.. there are other people that are better than you, you dont have to cry to your little liquid fans to make yourself feel the best. Go beat yosh and Testie then come back with some replays before you can accuse them of something that is not true you jealous bastard. go to hell and learn some new tactics instead of the same ones every game you fag. you don't make shit sense at all.. he can fly the shuttle so it would look like he isn't hacking lOlz and when the fuck did nazgul play him?? yesterday?? lOlz nazgul played him BEFORE he was caught maphacking the 2nd time and since when was yosh > nazgul lOlz and since when did nazgul use 1strat only? lOlz i hear ppl say that lOTS... you should stop downloading nazgul replays hahahah i don't recall nazgul using same strat twice and besides whats wrong with 1strat users?? it wouldn't fucking matter if they win lots.. go fuck your self =[ | ||
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Liquid.Venice
United States916 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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On December 08 2002 08:47 fZ-DoGG wrote: you guys are all going by testies games from like 1.5 years ago.. have u seen any of his new games since the new and improved testie has came about? if he hacked why would i see him in games eg: shuttle flying into a pack of goons filled with 2 reavers or mass scans constantly.. ive seen him make average human mistakes in games that there is no way possible it can relate to hack. I think most of your problems is Jealousy especially you nazgul.. losing what 0-16 to him looksl ike it makes u mad so u come onto your own forum and get all your little "fans" to back you up. your nothing. you claim testie hacks because he owns you and you got Yosh kicked out of WGTour because he owns you and you are jealous and u accused him of hacking. So the only people you like "dont hack" and whoever u cant beat is a "hacker" face it.. there are other people that are better than you, you dont have to cry to your little liquid fans to make yourself feel the best. Go beat yosh and Testie then come back with some replays before you can accuse them of something that is not true you jealous bastard. go to hell and learn some new tactics instead of the same ones every game you fag. okay | ||
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iD.Twisted
Netherlands3102 Posts
On December 08 2002 08:47 fZ-DoGG wrote: you guys are all going by testies games from like 1.5 years ago.. have u seen any of his new games since the new and improved testie has came about? if he hacked why would i see him in games eg: shuttle flying into a pack of goons filled with 2 reavers or mass scans constantly.. ive seen him make average human mistakes in games that there is no way possible it can relate to hack. I think most of your problems is Jealousy especially you nazgul.. losing what 0-16 to him looksl ike it makes u mad so u come onto your own forum and get all your little "fans" to back you up. your nothing. you claim testie hacks because he owns you and you got Yosh kicked out of WGTour because he owns you and you are jealous and u accused him of hacking. So the only people you like "dont hack" and whoever u cant beat is a "hacker" face it.. there are other people that are better than you, you dont have to cry to your little liquid fans to make yourself feel the best. Go beat yosh and Testie then come back with some replays before you can accuse them of something that is not true you jealous bastard. go to hell and learn some new tactics instead of the same ones every game you fag. ROOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLL WE WANT MORE, WE WANT MORE, WE WANT MORE HAHAHHA HILARIOUS ROFL!  | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On December 08 2002 08:47 fZ-DoGG wrote: you guys are all going by testies games from like 1.5 years ago.. have u seen any of his new games since the new and improved testie has came about? if he hacked why would i see him in games eg: shuttle flying into a pack of goons filled with 2 reavers or mass scans constantly.. ive seen him make average human mistakes in games that there is no way possible it can relate to hack. I think most of your problems is Jealousy especially you nazgul.. losing what 0-16 to him looksl ike it makes u mad so u come onto your own forum and get all your little "fans" to back you up. your nothing. you claim testie hacks because he owns you and you got Yosh kicked out of WGTour because he owns you and you are jealous and u accused him of hacking. So the only people you like "dont hack" and whoever u cant beat is a "hacker" face it.. there are other people that are better than you, you dont have to cry to your little liquid fans to make yourself feel the best. Go beat yosh and Testie then come back with some replays before you can accuse them of something that is not true you jealous bastard. go to hell and learn some new tactics instead of the same ones every game you fag. | ||
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Eliminator
Netherlands681 Posts
 . Your attitude blows . You gotta be cocky otherwise it looks like your worth crap  . NTT was an expert, it was a pity to see him go  . These emoticons own btw. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28784 Posts
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iD.Twisted
Netherlands3102 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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HoNDa-
Canada1 Post
Anyone who hacks has no respect for other people. If blizzard wanted us to see what the other person was doing there would be no such thing as fog of war. There is no option in brood wars like there warcraft 2 to remove fog of war. Blizzard did this for a reason, it is so that you can have some element of surprise, if you dont let them scout your tech. We need to try and get blizzard to create a program that searches out maphackers like in warcraft 3 and either bans their cd key or marks there id with a symbol so that they can be disqualified from any online competitions. I'll send the first email reqesting a hack detecting program. | ||
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Rekrules
Afghanistan3 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
note: I never said he still hacks. That's something both you and me cannot know and that's exactly why I have a problem with him. | ||
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
On December 09 2002 22:17 HoNDa- wrote: It bothers me that blizzard still hasnt corrected this hacking problem. Anyone who hacks has no respect for other people. If blizzard wanted us to see what the other person was doing there would be no such thing as fog of war. There is no option in brood wars like there warcraft 2 to remove fog of war. Blizzard did this for a reason, it is so that you can have some element of surprise, if you dont let them scout your tech. We need to try and get blizzard to create a program that searches out maphackers like in warcraft 3 and either bans their cd key or marks there id with a symbol so that they can be disqualified from any online competitions. I'll send the first email reqesting a hack detecting program. Blizzard has tried, but as soon as the new patch comes out, a new hack will be out within a few days (BTW where is 1.10??) . Blizzard won't spend the resources to combat a problem that won't ever go away on a game that has passed its era of profitability. Unfortunately, no one can fix the problem. But, I don't think most people hack, unfortunately, the hackers will come out in droves for a high profile ladder such as the WG Tour. Sux. | ||
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UltRaTeRRan
Korea (South)22 Posts
On December 10 2002 03:41 A3iL3r0n wrote: Blizzard has tried, but as soon as the new patch comes out, a new hack will be out within a few days (BTW where is 1.10??) . Blizzard won't spend the resources to combat a problem that won't ever go away on a game that has passed its era of profitability. Unfortunately, no one can fix the problem. But, I don't think most people hack, unfortunately, the hackers will come out in droves for a high profile ladder such as the WG Tour. Sux. I agree totally^^ | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
I don't know if you realize it but A LOT and I mean A LOT of people hack/have tried hacking, and they don't just hack once, they hack all the time; however, people change and besides, if I was caught map-hacking twice, and got a horrible reputation, I wouldn't think "now that i have this reputation I can't hurt it more" and continue hacking - I'd try to remove the stains or at least NOT live up to it. Let's count him human, hm? You said "I never said he still hacks. That's something both you and me cannot know and that's exactly why I have a problem with him.". But I think your problem with him is exactly that you DO think he still hacks. Any player in the tournament can be a hacker, whether you know it or not. Now don't flame this final thought, but flame everything else if you want ( ), because it's only my harmless opinoin and I don't want it to get flamed, so here it goes: you can dislike Testie for having have hacked in the past and being the person it takes to disrespect other people and spoil their fun, but right now, with what we have, he's as much a hacker as anyone you play that you don't know in real life. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
I like to draw the line at one myself, but I do realize that people can change, however when someone gets caught twice with a time-span of more than a year I lose all reason to trust him. | ||
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OrangeTerran
United States963 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
On December 10 2002 04:27 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: but what if he gets caught for the THIRD time now? Will you support him next time AGAIN? Or is 3 times the actual line for you? What if he gets caught a 4th time after that? I like to draw the line at one myself, but I do realize that people can change, however when someone gets caught twice with a time-span of more than a year I lose all reason to trust him. For all of you who support Testie, or at least show a smidgeon of pity for him, think of this. You are doing a probe transfer, a surprise drop or whatever and his units are right there to defeat it. What are you going to think? It was luck? No. You are going to assume its hacking because he has broken that trust. Naz is exactly right in that. You can't trust Testie, so why would you want to play him? I don't know if you realize it but A LOT and I mean A LOT of people hack/have tried hacking, and they don't just hack once, they hack all the time; however, people change and besides, if I was caught map-hacking twice, and got a horrible reputation, I wouldn't think "now that i have this reputation I can't hurt it more" and continue hacking - I'd try to remove the stains or at least NOT live up to it. Let's count him human, hm? I disagree with you on the basis that you discount the mentality of people who need to win. The best players of any sport are generally those who cannot stand to lose. Testie has an ego, and obviously wants to win very badly, and cannot stand losing. So he hacks. So yes, lets count him human, and humans who have a need will generally do anything to fill that need. I am not saying every player who cannot stand losing hacks, I am saying players who succumb to the temptation to hack would have a very hard time going back. It's just in their nature. And its also human nature to have a "fuck you" sort of attitude once a group has rejected you. So I wouldn't be surprised if he started hacking more. Bottom line: Testie is always going to face the question, "Is he that good or is he just hacking?" | ||
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[r]h_probe
United States188 Posts
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fZ-DoGG
Canada73 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
Just as noone can say he _does_ hack you can't say he doesn't. If you think you can state such a thing with a person like Testie you're really making an idiot out of yourself. | ||
Liquid`Spy
Netherlands1301 Posts
well since you're going to be one of them soon he will give you better practise then too naz =) | ||
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
On December 10 2002 09:11 Liquid`Spy wrote: "Actually Koreans/progamers usually can't care less if someone is hacking. It'll even give them better practise." well since you're going to be one of them soon he will give you better practise then too naz =) LOL! | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
ass | ||
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
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dudex
Korea (South)31 Posts
i wouldn't say he doesn't hack though, and i doubt i'll say that again but as far as his recent replays show, he looks like a hacker as much as naz does but i don't doubt he'll be good to practice against. and i play nicknames not people... plus i cheat on my final terms  i cheat on girls sometimes ...and so do u, don't play mature doing things right all the time makes u DULL (tell that to koreans...) 4 people who play him in an online competition there is no way of knowing as there isn't with any other players | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
"think you can state such a thing with a person like Testie" I thought the only reason you disliked him was because he hacked. Then why do you refer to the kind of p e r s o n he is? A "hacking" person? Heh. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
someone influenced by the devil? | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
Point = you said it like he's a bad p e r s o n. Do you know that for sure? | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
A person that has been caught hacking. | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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Grudge
United States92 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
2) I'm ruining the community? Heh ok. 3) Make sense next time, thx. | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
If you pissed your pants a few times, will you consider it fair to be excluded from society 10 years from then? | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On December 10 2002 18:25 dudex wrote: doing things right all the time makes u DULL That is ridiculous. Now, obviously people can't avoid causing ANY negative consequences through their actions, but what you're saying argues that people should be harmful for the sake of being harmful, like they have a quota to meet or something and if they aren't harmful enough, then that's bad. Harmful acts are not necessarily wrong, but you can never use the fact that an act was harmful as proof that it was good or right: it is always a bad attribute. | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
I believe that a very clear statement about his personality was made when he was caught hacking a second time: he felt that hacking was okay. Thus, why would he stop now? Since hacking in itself is obviously not a bad thing to him (unless he's undergone some kind of transformation, which most people who are no longer children will not undergo), the only reason he would have not to hack would be because of the consequences inflicted upon him when he is caught. Therefore, hacking is okay as long as he doesn't get caught again. It's called acting based on Reward/Punishment: actions are fine as long as you don't get caught. Testie already made the decision of whether or not to hack based upon this guideline, and I see no reason why he wouldn't do it again. | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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RowdyBob
Australia206 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On December 11 2002 03:21 MPXMX wrote: It's very funny how all you guys are such psychology experts. But I'm not going to continue defending Testie, just because there is no benefit in this for me. Don't flame me and I'll shut up. ok then tell us why we should give testie a chance and why we should trust him after all the hackings that he has done. so far none of your arguments are strong enough to convince us that testie deserves a another chance and that he deserves our respect. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On December 11 2002 03:35 RowdyBob wrote:Hmmm whilst some ppl were abusing Testie other day in chatroom, he claimed the game vs Drone (?) was a fake. Any truth to this? No. The fact that he denies the game is real only proves it more(atleast for me). | ||
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Pomozite
Croatia647 Posts
I'm sure Testie will never get invitation to Team Liquid tournaments. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
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Liquid.Venice
United States916 Posts
The replay seems extremely lame though, almost hard to believe. Anyone in their right mind who hacked would not send THREE scvs THROUGH a goon to scout, WHEN THEY ALREADY HACKED. And the opposing player, especially a good, attentitive one would notice this RIGHT away. | ||
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fZ-DoGG
Canada73 Posts
note: how many fake replays and how many ppl had name spoofs back then | ||
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Cee.Lo
Canada103 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Testie has been PROVEN TO HACK TWICE .. HE EVEN ADMITTED IT!! This is fact, but why are you discussing it? If you want to play with a cheater, go ahead do so, if you want an abuser in your tourney, by all means invite him. But why would you waste your time on someone you know is all lies, abuse and bullshit when there are a 1000 well-mannered, legit players to pick from? | ||
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BlaZingThai
United States6 Posts
I know that testie doesnt hack anymore because of his live performances over the last 2 years are spectacular and also from recent replays. | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28784 Posts
that game was the 4th game in a series of 4 games me and testie played a l o n g time ago. they were being played cause testie wanted to redeem himself after losing 0-3 against me in a tournament final 2 days after 1.08 came out. (this was several months after that tournament though.. ) I could have proven this back when scdynasty.com or net or whatever was still online, cause I had posted a replay there dating 7 months before the "hack game" was published revealing him as a hacker. (I didn't notice that the 3 scvs were a disturbance when I played the game, doing it was really new then and I thought it was possible. then I suddenly remembered the game 7 months later when I had found out it was impossible and I was like "holy wtf" and then posted the replay explaining why testie was a hacker.) now, why would I post a replay entitling it as "me vs testie game 4 in a series of 4 games"(that ended 2-2, me getting buttfucked in the first two, the #1 game was posted too and nobody thought testie was sucking then..) on a site 7 months before I posted it on br.com if it was in fact not testie? as to why testie was playing so weird, it was probably partially caused by it being vanilla starcraft and not broodwar, so no goliath range.. and the reason why I didn't find him scouting with 3 scvs to be a surprise was that one of the observers stupidly said something equivalent to "wow that's a weird strat drone".. this being said, I think even testie might have matured in the past two years.. I know im a whole lot mature now compared to when I was 16 myself.. but you never know. | ||
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iloveo.0
Egypt43 Posts
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Nuttie
Poland302 Posts
i know i know...  | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Regards FrozenArbiter | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Regards FrozenArbiter | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Regards FrozenArbiter | ||
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fZ-DoGG
Canada73 Posts
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
"me losing wcg is like tiger woods losing an amature tournament, and no i don't want to talk about it" rofl, he got owned pretty hard at wcg =\ and the reasoning behind that, is this is the kid that claims to having winning recs vs most of the kor pros, claims to beat arang on multiple occaisions, as well as eji. And he can't even "compete" vs canadian players? | ||
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Liquid`Spy
Netherlands1301 Posts
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FuDDx
United States5015 Posts
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fZ-DoGG
Canada73 Posts
1. testie beat all of the canadian players and the guy he lost to was a chinese player with the fastest hands in the tournament who ive seen beat many "top" players. so dont go accusing testie of being a bad live player. go watch the replays. at the wcg testie went 3-0 straight with Smuft who was there during practice games. 2. so the only reason naz loses to testie 13 straight because testie is a "hacker" or was he just better? | ||
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
When Nazgul played him (which is like WAY~~ long tym ago) thats when Testie was "proven" to hack you shoudln't make any comments out of that shit yo | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
DoGG, you said Testie beat Smuft 3-0 during practice games. You're right, it was only practice games. During CL, [LD]1, aka LustedSmurf, Smuft, had a much better record than Testie and a winning ratio in games against Testie. And if I remember corrected, team [LD] consistently won more games compared to team DS-. | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
My friend and I go to this channel with fair players (well of the same level as the two of us and some better) and play games with them. My buddy was accused of hacking so many times by those guys - they all watched replays together and came to a consensus that he's a fuxing hacker, when I know for sure that he is not. Evidence they gave = You know that spot, to the top left of 6's natural in LT, where you can stash some units? PvZ, he saw a ling in front and interpreted it as a good warning for hidden army ready to come in when he leaves the base - and sent a high templar into the pocket - and there sat 10 hydras. Storm = rapid punishment and as the hydras ended their lives, my friend was labelled a hacker. Heh, another piece of evidence for his hacking was when his shuttle went right to a player's new "secret expo" following waypoints to avoid common places. Ridiculous stuff... But well I suppose evidence for Testie's hacking is better than this. Also In boxer vs ggon replay, many things point to use of a bug - such as lifting off the CC, and scv in Return cargo mode... but, you know that SCV has already been in the toss base, did it not see the minerals? It could have been sent to mine. | ||
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fZ-DoGG
Canada73 Posts
Im giving him credit for playing fair and mannered. If you had a friend who was a drug addict 1.5 - 2 years ago and is now on the right track in life and is clean would you want everone calling him a drugg addict/crack head? or would u stick up for him. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
As to your analogy of a friend who was a drug addict: if your friend was once addicted but made a complete 180, by all means, I respect your defense of your friend. But if that friend "quits" only to go back to that addiction over and over again, I question your ability to find good friends to begin with. The fact is... Testie will always have a continual cloud of doubt associate to his name as long as he plays the game of StarCraft. | ||
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BLaZe
Canada46 Posts
On December 11 2002 09:49 FoZZy_us wrote: I think you guys are giving this guy way to much attention. Hes probably sitting at his computer laughing at the attention. I think hes the kind of person who is addicted to attention. Just an opinion, hehe its quite entertaining to see the "debate". Testie doesn't give a flying f--- i bet, just leave him alone and let him game, he is well mannered and im positive he doesn't hack anymore. I bet he could own most of the people that accuse him. | ||
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roCh
Sweden870 Posts
i think they should change the name from hacker to like, oh i dont know cheater, hacking takes an ammount of skill, whilst pressing the "map hack" i dont know... Regarding Testie. Got a couple of reps. Seriously. Let play, if he still maphacks then he wont achieve anything (wcg), and if he manages to play without using a hac.. a cheat Then good for him! | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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Eternity
France69 Posts
Oh well, nice dreaming about it | ||
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
it only looks to me like your sucking his dick cuz hes been nice to everyone he tlaks to.. and your one of them (It looks fucking obvoiuse why.. kid wants people to stick up for him) and looks to me like he got one good fucking fan =[ | ||
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OrangeTerran
United States963 Posts
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Pomozite
Croatia647 Posts
For all you who think Testie is not punished enought for his hacking I have to say that is not true. Nazgul and many other gosus have sponsors, but Testie will not find them so easy, because everybody knows about his cheating. He also wont be invited to some gosu tournaments like pG tournament and Nazgul said there are some prizes.  I don't like word hacker, because it means something else to people who don't play SC. Cheater is better word for MH users. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
I don't find him so important, just when the discussion is there I don't mind taking part a bit | ||
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)Is(Honest
Korea (South)417 Posts
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Smorrie
Netherlands2928 Posts
They are the only ones who beat testie and tittybang in 2on2.. I heard hg = hellghost... would be cool cos me and my ally beat them ^.^ | ||
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
the word hacker originated from the media and the "masses". How it came about for bw player who cheat, is that in essence they change the bw game/dll, etc. So someone had to hack, in the real sense of the word, in order to make the program they use to cheat. FYI, "crackers" are the people u see in movies where they break into shit and get info, "hackers" are people who get code and make it open source or change programs around by finding the code, etc. So thats why they call cheaters, hackers. w00t fZ-Dogg, once again, ur limited experience in these matters seam from ur every orifice with each one of ur posts, and seemingly exponentially as well. plz do not take offence, but you really dont know what ur talking about p.s even if he doesn't hack anymore, which no one can really varify. He's still lied about hacking, and has been caught on multiple occasions even after he swore that he didnt and got his little enteroge to support him, all of which were clueless. And for that, he gets labled a hacker for life :O (unless he actually went to korea to play in leagues, which is realitively impossible), even then i wouldn't support him and i'd hope that he lost  | ||
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RowdyBob
Australia206 Posts
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