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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 26 2009 22:28 GMT
#121
That's my friend's brother's school. Pretty funny.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-26 22:31:56
January 26 2009 22:29 GMT
#122
Whatever, I think this whole ordeal is fucking retarded. Every single bit of it.

They want to forfiet after wining 100-0... Pathetic.
People think they're wrong for playing the game and winning 100-0... Pathetic.
The Coach got fired for his team winning... Pathetic

I know a lot of people disagree with the fact that I don't think i team should ever let up regardless if it's 535 to 0.... In my personal opinion it's poor sportmanship to "go easy" or "let up"... If you can't lose don't play. It doesn't fucking matter if you lose by a million points or one tenth of a point, you still fucking lose, don't cry over the detail just fucking improve. It's a disgrace to the game and any competitive nature to "let up" just because someone might get embarressed or sad or whatever. Don't play if you can't take that risk.

Now sure, theres prolly a great argument for why the fuck this game took place in the first place, unless it's for some fundraiser or something? If it was indeed a COMPETITION then there is no excuse for any of this and those who are fragile shouldn't play so GTFO and STFU. Now if it's "special" girls versus normal "girls"..... What's the point to begin with? Fire the game organizer not the coach? This is like telling me that I shouldn't play poker against people who don't know how to play well? Oh I should give the money I won at the end back?

Meh maybe I just don't have any concern or respect for anything along the lines of getting "embarressed" or "feeling sorry" and ect over something as simple and useless as a basic competition. It always annoys me when sports fan takl about a team being disrespectful for still participating in the game properly even when they are up far enough. F dat 100-0 every time no mercy

lmao my 2cents
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13365 Posts
January 26 2009 22:42 GMT
#123
As someone who used to coach junior basketball, I think this is pretty poor form, but it has been blown out of proportion. To say it was shameful and digusting is a bit much.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
January 26 2009 23:42 GMT
#124
Apologizing for winning 100-0? Isn't that just rubbing it in?
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
January 27 2009 00:42 GMT
#125
On January 27 2009 07:01 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2009 05:31 Kennelie wrote:
This subject was the talk of the town around the D/FW(Dallas/Fort Worth) area. I'm glad this guy was fired. It is very unsportsman like. You don't just keep beating the team to death while having your starters do it. Throw in the worst line-up you have against the other team after they are down by 25 points as is. Well its over with and the alternative school got a new schedule for the remaining of the season.


I must agree with you. When I played volleyball for my high school, we had to take it easy on a specific school who barely got their volleyball team started. A win is a win so there's no need to bring the stats of our starters up, or stomp the opposing team by a HUGE margin. Sports is about competition but in high school sports, its also about having fun and showing some respect (sportsmanship).




Wouldn't it be more respect to bring your A game, making them feel that they are a challenging team? By sending a B team out you essentially are saying, "You won't even beat our bench warmers, why run our starters?" I'm not one who is like, oh were winning by 50, lets throw our weak players out there to let them even it up.

There are times you sub out people to prevent injury/let newer players show their game, but i find it completely disrespectful to not bring your A team every time (with limited exceptions, exhibition matches normally) because you essentially are saying that the other team isn't worth your time.

Its kind of sad that people fired the coach over it for doing his job. You could call if poor form to not let off, but i would say that from part of the article that alot of people were cheering still at the game, and most of the losers were stating they didn't really worry about it, i don't see why everyone is so into having the coach fired =/.

I mean a good example is in american football, when the cardinals played the patriots in week 16, NE was up like, 40+-0 at one point, and everyone was complaining how the cardinals didn't even try (even though they were in the playoff's). They lost alot of respect for not bring their A team to the field, so i don't see why we should disrespect said team/coach for playing their best =/.
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
January 27 2009 00:56 GMT
#126
Lol there was a poll on the article regarding the fired coach it was something like



[image loading]

Poll: The winning coach should have
(Vote): Allowed the opposing team to score
(Vote): Encourage his team to keep the pressure on
(Vote): Feel embarassed that the game got out of hand

Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
Essence
Profile Joined October 2005
165 Posts
January 27 2009 01:01 GMT
#127
it seems their fundamentals didn't make up for their inability to dunk
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
January 27 2009 02:04 GMT
#128
On January 24 2009 07:42 ilistis wrote:
Wouldn't you be happy for your team if they won 100-0 in a basketball game? That shows they're good but it can also be a humiliation for the losing team. Who cares though?

Well read this article. article.
They want to forfeit their win because they feel bad for the other team. T.T


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DALLAS -- A Texas high school girls basketball team on the winning end of a 100-0 game has a case of blowout remorse.

Now officials from The Covenant School say they are trying to do the right thing by seeking a forfeit and apologizing for the margin of victory.


Samantha Peloza grabs a rebound in practice a week after their 100-0 win.
"It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened," Kyle Queal, the head of the school, said in a statement, adding the forfeit was requested because "a victory without honor is a great loss."

The private Christian school defeated Dallas Academy last week. Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

A parent who attended the game told The Associated Press that Covenant continued to make 3-pointers -- even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

"I think the bad judgment was in the full-court press and the 3-point shots," said Renee Peloza, whose daughter plays for Dallas Academy. "At some point, they should have backed off."

Dallas Academy coach Jeremy Civello told The Dallas Morning News that the game turned into a "layup drill," with the opposing team's guards waiting to steal the ball and drive to the basket. Covenant scored 12 points in the fourth quarter and "finally eased up when they got to 100 with about four minutes left," he said.

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become lopsided. There is, however, "a golden rule" that should have applied in this contest, said Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas.

"On a personal note, I told the coach of the losing team how much I admire their girls for continuing to compete against all odds," Burleson said. "They showed much more character than the coach that allowed that score to get out of hand. It's up to the coach to control the outcome."

In the statement on the Covenant Web site, Queal said the game "does not reflect a Christ-like and honorable approach to competition. We humbly apologize for our actions and seek the forgiveness of Dallas Academy, TAPPS and our community."

Covenant coach Micah Grimes did not immediately respond to a message left by The Associated Press on Thursday.

Queal said school officials met with Dallas Academy officials to apologize and praised "each member of the Dallas Academy Varsity Girls Basketball team for their strength, composure and fortitude in a game in which they clearly emerged the winner."

Civello said he appreciated the gesture and has accepted the apology "with no ill feelings."

At a shootaround Thursday, several Dallas Academy players said they were frustrated during the game but felt it was a learning opportunity. They also said they are excited about some of the attention they are receiving from the loss, including an invitation from Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to see an NBA game from his suite.

"Even if you are losing, you might as well keep playing," said Shelby Hyatt, a freshman on the team. "Keep trying, and it's going to be OK."

Peloza said the coach and other parents praised the Dallas Academy girls afterward for limiting Covenant to 12 points in the fourth quarter. She added that neither her daughter nor her teammates seemed to dwell on the loss.

"Somewhere during that game they got caught up in the moment," Peloza said of the Covenant players, fans and coaches. "Our girls just moved on. That's the happy part of the story."







Am I the only one that thinks this is stupid? Their is even a parent who believe they should have backed off. Fuck you, your daughter sucks and that's it.



The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

These are disadvantaged kids who already feel like life sucks... you want to tell them they suck to their face?

Now tell me... what's the difference between TELLING someone they suck and smashing them 100-0 in a basketball game? Not much.

The kids on the opposing team should have realised what the situation was and appropriately adjusted the tone of the game to make it more relaxed. It's not like they were going to lose. It's like playing a bunch of 10 y.o. in rugby and tackling them hard every time they get the ball. There's no need for it....
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 02:16:59
January 27 2009 02:11 GMT
#129
It has already been said they have learning difficulties, no physical disabilities at all. What was your point again?
I think this is just again the stupid dogma of political correctnes, letting the weaker gain points or even win which is just wrong. It fucks up the reality and I don't see any justification for it at all. Same goes for quotas and shit like that. (Which are justified IF there is any disadvantage one on side, which you can't overcome by !effort and skill!, and I can't see any disadvantages on the "special girls" team just the one with being the lesser players)
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 02:23:42
January 27 2009 02:22 GMT
#130
On January 27 2009 11:04 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
It's like playing a bunch of 10 y.o. in rugby and tackling them hard every time they get the ball. There's no need for it....

See, that's where this whole problem is coming from. Just because they have learning disabilities(which you don't even know the specifics or severity of), you insist on treating them like 10 year olds who need to have their opponents condescend to let them score.
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
January 27 2009 02:39 GMT
#131
it would be so genius if the losing team realized they had no chance so they lost so horribly that the other team would feel bad and give them a win.
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 02:50:43
January 27 2009 02:42 GMT
#132
Seriously I read a lil of this(tl;dr) but i was locked down for 2 weeks(got unlocked early^_^) and I wasn't here for much of this thread but I am not going to argue my opinion with some of you cats. But it makes me pity you cats that have no idea whats sportsman like is...I will state a quote from the maestro himself.

On January 19 2009 14:14 MrHoon wrote:
[center]

- Playing vs Bisu and FBH could be a lot of pressure.
▲ Savior= In recent MSL grp selection, FHB said "Now playing with Savior is not helpful for me". But the fact that he was carrying that thought in his head was surprising. I don't understand why he would think like that. For one player to surpass another player is not simply about records vs each other but overall career. Even if I beat Boxer 100 times now I'm not actually winning him. That is my opinion.


I will read the rest of this tommorrow while I am at work.

ya had ya shot kid!
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
January 27 2009 02:42 GMT
#133
the coach ended up getting fired today, fyi
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
January 27 2009 02:45 GMT
#134
On January 27 2009 11:42 LumberJack wrote:
the coach ended up getting fired today, fyi


I know this already I live in the metroplex where this happened.
ya had ya shot kid!
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 03:08:10
January 27 2009 03:07 GMT
#135
Well the girls themselves apparently didn't feel that ashamed, they said they tried their best and gave it their all and stuff, personally i would feel offended if another team felt sorry for me and just cleared the way so I can do a layup.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13365 Posts
January 27 2009 03:38 GMT
#136
It's a tough situation this. At the end of the day, whoever is running the competition should have a lot to answer for by adding a team that is clearly out of their depth. I know it's a game and all and they're just playing for fun, but when you don't win a game in four years and get smashed like this, it isn't much chop.

I've been in situations like this and find it's good to get the kids doing some plays they've been practicing at training and have been looking to introduce into a game, but some people may even find that offensive if you're turning the game into a training drill.

They should really just move on a tell the team to lower the intensity next time.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
January 27 2009 05:11 GMT
#137
This is really stupid
TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
January 27 2009 05:23 GMT
#138
I don't understand where all of the "tone it down" stuff is coming from.

If I play Mondragon 1v1, should he "tone it down" Just because I'm not anywhere near his level of play? Hell no, he should rape my face like any other advanced player would.

I would be ultra-pissed If I were the coach and got fired over this. Pissed enough to do legal research and file any possible lawsuits against my employers.

Now, maybe if he were dancing around the court rubbing it in the other teams face, then that's more understandable as that's very unsportsman like. But winning 100-0 is nothing to feel sorry/ashamed about.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 27 2009 06:01 GMT
#139
btw the coach was fired today.
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
January 27 2009 06:02 GMT
#140
Why the fuck do these teams even play each other
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