humm yeah 10 gladiator's banes. that one drops very often.
i agree that shops use bots.
i disagree that there's some conspiracy of "one or two guys" running every item shop.

as for 1.08 items - the only way to get these is a non-ladder to ladder exploit (get a nl and l char in the same game and xfer the items). it's been done in the past, sometimes when servers are shutting down it can be done.

Amnesty

United States2054 Posts

November 11 2008 02:48 GMT

#42

speaking of Diablo 2 Uber D is my game i can't Kill solo

msg me /w *mindcry2 if you can kill him for me
useast ladder softcore thanks.

EDIT:

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Thank you Equinox_Kr <3<3<3<3<3
<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Between the annihilus, Graverobber charm, and the arach. i got +3 more skills and to my suprise my skeletons do a whole 25% more damage than before. I don't know why the difference is so big between 30 skill and 33 skill but its huge!

Equinox_kr

United States7395 Posts

November 11 2008 02:50 GMT

#43

On November 11 2008 11:48 Amnesty wrote:
speaking of Diablo 2 Uber D is my game i can't Kill solo

msg me /w *mindcry2 if you can kill him for me
useast ladder softcore thanks.

I'll come on, maybe I can kill him.

Equinox_kr

United States7395 Posts

November 11 2008 03:20 GMT

#44

On November 11 2008 11:48 Amnesty wrote:
speaking of Diablo 2 Uber D is my game i can't Kill solo

o_O that was quite unexpected, but thanks :D

Showtime!

Canada2938 Posts

November 11 2008 04:06 GMT

#45

All of the above.

I used to have a few friends who used to work for two websites. Hell, I even helped out by running a bot to do pindleskin and mephisto runs on my computer.

Yes, they use programs as well.

Those guys made a lot of bling.

Stuslegend

Canada168 Posts

November 11 2008 06:34 GMT

#46

its called bots and private dupe methods

ive been playing d2 for like 7 years ....
there is always dupers out there, even after all(not many) of the patches blizzard has done

Ganfei

Taiwan1439 Posts

November 11 2008 06:44 GMT

#47

garmule is pretty correct

i was running 4 bots on my own, 2 computers, 2 virtual devices, and i found MANY hrs and perfect griffon's, coas, etc. i think i found 7-8 legit HR's in the first week of running my 4 bots @ 25 sec/each for pure pindle runs....and some of these websites can run hundreds of bots. i heard one website owner talking about running 1600 bots. eventually i got tired of dealing with muling, and i was only playing d2 against for a short period before i got bored again anyways, since 90% of the game is dupes/pvp bots. cd keys weren't really an issue - i managed to get 14 cd key sets just from asking friends. you don't need a new computer for every bot, nowhere near it; a powerful processor can probably run 5-6 bots on virtual devices with stripped down windows xp easily.

the game is REALLLLLLLLLY botted. garmule is completely correct; you can simply activate a level 1 bot, have a lvl 95 hammerdin bot glitch rush him to hell, and have a baal bot/cs bot run him til level 90 in one day. the bots are extremely diverse and complex these days. 95% of baal runs are bots on d2. d2 is just beyond boring nowadays with so many bots, so much cheating and hacking and duping. the first pindlebot i had running got my sorc to level 97 before i stopped...off pure pindle from lvl 80 or so. i also had 3 level 95 hammerdins on bots. it's not uncommon to see a baal bot with leech bots on the bot owner's other 4-5 characters following the baal bot around.

there are definitely 1-2 guys running the shops. maybe 1-2 is a bit low, but it's certainly not a huge number of people. just look at the diction and syntax, many of the sites have identical menus, contact info, faqs, etc, with totally different URLs. they put slightly different prices, why should they care? they're making profit either way.

and there are 10000000% private dupes, no doubt whatsoever. on d2jsp a guy bought the mostly ungodly eth autorep 300 ed fools mod 40ias 2os zerker for 51k fg, and it poofed. the seller replaced it for him. LOL.

closed

Vatican City State491 Posts

November 11 2008 14:28 GMT

#48

I always though that at the beginning of the ladder, some shops woul buy items from "normal" players by paying with duped runes (instead of botting). I always wondered how does it work - an average player (no botting) can still get an enigma at some point - he needs to get the runes somehow. Are there "rich kids" who buy runes in bulk and then trade them cheap? Or perhaps people who dupe pay runes for items?

Ganfei

Taiwan1439 Posts

November 11 2008 16:10 GMT

#49

There are the dupers who flood the market with HRs and control the prices until the market is so flooded that the prices reach a stable point, like 3-4 months into the ladder, at which point the runes reach a stable and very low price and every poor guy can have his enigma. For the poor guys, there's also always the whole system of trading lower runes and trading large numbers of pgems, which is a pain in the ass.

Right now HRs on jsp are about 20 fg/each on East ladder, while they were 250 fg each a few months ago.

20 fg is really cheap, even for a total noob just starting out.

Cambium

United States16368 Posts

November 11 2008 16:29 GMT

#50

d2 lod was a lot of fun 5-6 years ago. I practically devoted my high school to that game. boy was i happy when I traded for my first wf for my level 99 amazon...

Stuslegend

Canada168 Posts

November 11 2008 22:24 GMT

#51

wow.... speaking of d2

350,000+ accounts just got banned
biggest banning spree ever for d2

most ppl are thinking that since WoW expansion is comming out that banned diablo people will go out and buy that insted, such bullshit!!!!!!!

tika

127 Posts

November 11 2008 22:39 GMT

#52

On November 11 2008 03:54 travis wrote:

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dude, it's diablo 2
it's not even a directly competitive game. there isn't even an end goal

not to say that justifies it but I hardly think it is that big of a deal

if you dont clarify it at some level then you have these same people botting poker

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

November 11 2008 22:41 GMT

#53

it's against the rules, so clearly it has already been clarified

KissBlade

United States5718 Posts

November 11 2008 22:44 GMT

#54

I agree with that gramule guy simply because I used to know a kid who (still know him actually) ran keys or something for this other guy. They were definitely not Chinese gold farmers (about as white bread as possible, he voted Bush 2004) but just some guys looking to make some extra cash/fg on d2. They had some random contact too on the forum and the orders they had to complete were ridiculous o_O. I helped him out with some runs while his friend just ran a bot through the whole thing ...

misclick

Korea (South)155 Posts

November 12 2008 04:59 GMT

#55

d2 is one of the cheapest games to bot for as well. market has been declining for a while now and bots/methods are becoming more and more public. the insane items of d2 will run like ~80 a pop (yellow shit). just for some food for thought, in another game, i sold a single item for $1500 to a guy in turkey.

regardless, there are methods that retain a unique item id. so the mere fact that they aren't poofing is hardly a way to gauge whether or not its duped.