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Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 26 2008 19:13 GMT
#21
I actually think it's a reasonable philosophical position to refuse medical treatment for yourself or your children under all circumstances, just as it's a reasonable position to refuse to steal food rather than starve.

For most of the time humanity was around, about a quarter to a half of children died before reaching adulthood. Generally speaking, the ones who died were weaker than the ones who survived.

What happens to the genetics of a population when you go from filtering out the quarter or half weakest in every generation, to keeping 99+%?

After about five or ten generations, don't you end up with a population of people full of allergies, and attention disorders, and diabetes, and social dysfunction, and depression, and weak eyes needing glasses, and laziness, and stupidity, and fatness, and clumsiness, and other low-grade inferiorities?

What do the people look like after a hundred or a thousand generations?
I serve my houseguests slices of butter.
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 26 2008 19:15 GMT
#22
On March 27 2008 03:57 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2008 03:49 Funchucks wrote:
On March 27 2008 03:42 baal wrote:
Natural selection at its finest

[image loading]

Man... there is NOTHING wrong with that!


Yep, it's completely normal to gouge your own eye by shooting a scoped rifle.

In the first place, she's obviously not shooting, just spotting.

In the second place, man... there is NOTHING wrong with THAT!
I serve my houseguests slices of butter.
illmatic
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada53 Posts
March 26 2008 19:16 GMT
#23
What could a doctor do? Give her drugs...........
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
March 26 2008 19:19 GMT
#24
On March 27 2008 03:53 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2008 03:38 LaLuSh wrote:
There it is.

There is no God.


How can you say ? i mean when you judge death, something imensely controversy, only with the point of view of a guy living in this colossal prison we call earth, your sight is too limited to understand the nature of death.

Those fathers should have taken the kid to the doctor, maybe they are covering up for some kind of negligence

But if a sick kids death was enough to destroy the beliefs of every religion ....
Dont worry, they covered theyr asses by believing this is one of the sucky places where we spend most of our existance.



Not gonna make this into a long God vs. No God discussion. I have no problems with religion as long as it's not esoteric and seclusionary in the belief that MY religion is the ultimate road to salvation/whatever. For every religion claiming the aforementioned there stands a dim-witted homo sapiens turned prophet/saint/whatever grinning in the background, having achieved his or her goal in branching another one of these endless religions in another one of its endless branches/churches/whatever.

I'm aware the above means I must reject the majority of today's modern religions since they're all based on canonised staples of bullshit that throughout history has branched out into new piles of shit, as a never ending stream of homo sapiens wise men claim to have found the true interpretation of the "word"/whatever.

I'm actually okay with most buddhists and generally with people who believe in a personal God. They share a common trait you see; they mind their own business.

rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
March 26 2008 19:20 GMT
#25
On March 27 2008 03:42 baal wrote:
Natural selection at its finest

[image loading]

So much for "eye relief."
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
March 26 2008 19:22 GMT
#26
I'm getting a lot of "eye relief" looking at that image.
I serve my houseguests slices of butter.
Jyun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-26 19:23:27
March 26 2008 19:22 GMT
#27
On March 27 2008 03:53 LaLuSh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2008 03:40 vGl-CoW wrote:
this just proves that god is real and is able to dish out ownage harder than anybody


Yeah I guess you're right.

His way of saying screw you for confessing to the wrong religion; screw you for choosing one of the tens of thousands wrong interpretations every religion has branched into; and to end it screw you for choosing the wrong church out of millions.


Wow, I hope not.

If God does exist, I sincerely hope he's not completely evil to kill the child of a family just because they practiced the wrong faith. That's ridiculous and immoral. If a person killed the child for the same reason, everyone would condemn the person and call him/her evil.

If you believe in God, at least hold your God to the highest moral standards, and don't use God as an excuse for the evil, as these parents have done.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
March 26 2008 19:23 GMT
#28
So religion kills another one...wake up it's the year 2008.
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-26 19:50:45
March 26 2008 19:50 GMT
#29
On March 27 2008 04:16 illmatic wrote:
What could a doctor do? Give her drugs...........


Hold on, are you serious?

MAYBE SAVE HER?
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
March 26 2008 19:55 GMT
#30
The parents should be put in prison for this imo, same thing as if they would just have killed her.
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 19:38:57
March 26 2008 19:55 GMT
#31
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
March 26 2008 19:56 GMT
#32
owned

anyway this thread has awesome potential to turn into YET ANOTHER TEAMLIQUID RELIGION THREAD
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
March 26 2008 20:04 GMT
#33
GOD 1
GIRL 0
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
March 26 2008 20:07 GMT
#34
On March 27 2008 03:38 PissedOffEmo wrote:
we should blame china


I try to be tolerant, but comments like these piss me off to no end. I am a Chinese American living in the US, and where did you get that comment about China? Please do not say these things.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-26 20:12:59
March 26 2008 20:11 GMT
#35
On March 27 2008 04:55 Fumanchu wrote:
This is not the fault of God, nor the fault of the religion of Christianity. IMO this is more of the problem of not enough research. These parents should have read and studied the Bible in greater detail before coming to the decision that prayer was the only way to heal a child if you are Christian. The Bible does have countless stories of people who have been healed by prayer, but in most of these stories, you will find out that while these people were praying, they were doing everything physically possible to help the indivdual in need. A lot of Christians stand out in faith trying to declare their dedication and their love for Jesus, but unfortunately most of these people are not equipped with the knowledge to back up their declarementions.

As for why God did not save this girl, I can't say. I don't think we will ever know why God puts diseases in countries or allows for floods and hurricanes to destroy cities and wreck lives. However, I have personally seen the works of God firsthand and know that he is real and active in the world today. I have literally seen someones chopped off arm grow back right in front of my face. No joke. And what kind of a God would he be if everytime we asked for something he gave it to us? That's not a God, that's a genie. Although this girl's death is tragic and could have been avoided, we cannot comprehend the ripple effect that it will have on people. Quite possibly this death could lead to something far greater than we can forsee. God moves in mysterious ways, and although trusting Him even after something like this is difficult, it's never the wrong choice.


You have seen someone's chopped off arm grow back in front of your face..? I'm sorry, but I think that makes this entire post completely useless.

And also, that's complete bullshit. It's funny how when God performs miracles and amazing tasks, there never happens to be any evidence of it whatsoever.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
March 26 2008 20:14 GMT
#36
I have literally seen someones chopped off arm grow back right in front of my face. No joke.


Win!
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
March 26 2008 20:15 GMT
#37
On March 27 2008 04:55 NotSupporting wrote:
The parents should be put in prison for this imo, same thing as if they would just have killed her.

Almost worse since they let her suffer for a prolonged time before she died. Thats like even more cold blooded evil than just killing her. Not that things like that really could be compared.
Cant really find words for this, just makes me sick.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
March 26 2008 20:19 GMT
#38
The parents should have taken the girl to a doctor even if they had believed God will save her. By their prayers, they are asking God for help, not miracles. God will help them if they will try to help themselves or in this case the girl.

Its like jumping in a fire and saying "God will save me because i have faith".

It is the parents to blame for believing God will help them if they refuse to try to help themselves.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
March 26 2008 20:20 GMT
#39
lol..
yeah God created doctors for a reason, you are right.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
March 26 2008 20:21 GMT
#40
This could've been treated so easily too ><
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