EPTGod makes people doctors for a reason, right? - Page 3
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:23 {ToT}Strafe wrote: You guys are such haters. If I want to believe in God that is my choice and you shouldn't pound on me like this. Reading this thread I really feel as if I am under attack on my personal believes, without even posting. Every time you guys blame religion for death I can retort by giving an example of an atheist abducting, raping, murdering and so on. Almost all of you seem to forget that religion is something personal and that the actions of these parents aren't made by religion, but by themselves. I as a Christian wouldn't ever put my children through this, nor would any other sensible Christian I know. Stop taking a retarded person as an example to burn religion you can't relate to. But you see, the difference is that religion CAUSES abducting, raping, murdering, and so on. Atheism does not. You cannot do any of these things in the name of atheism, but countless deaths have been created due to "God's will". | ||
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k0ziol
Poland75 Posts
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kidd
United States2848 Posts
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On March 27 2008 03:43 Polis wrote: No says God. Anyway if God would not want diseases, he would not create them. Lol. Spoken like a true, ignorant bastard. On March 27 2008 04:22 Jyun wrote: Wow, I hope not. If God does exist, I sincerely hope he's not completely evil to kill the child of a family just because they practiced the wrong faith. That's ridiculous and immoral. If a person killed the child for the same reason, everyone would condemn the person and call him/her evil. If you believe in God, at least hold your God to the highest moral standards, and don't use God as an excuse for the evil, as these parents have done. Since when have Christians been holding their God to a moral standard? Was it God's fault that the child died? Who made that assumption? I thought the child was ill and was destined to die anyways. Her parents failed to get her the proper medical attention she deserved. So, is it, "You can only be my God if you uphold a certain level of morality. Otherwise, you don't really deserve to be my God." While Christianity is a bit stupid itself, the people who criticize Christianity are no better. | ||
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0z
Luxembourg877 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:20 OneOther wrote: lol.. yeah God created doctors for a reason, you are right. yeah, credit to the op for the title | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On March 27 2008 04:55 Fumanchu wrote: I have literally seen someones chopped off arm grow back right in front of my face. No joke. um what? | ||
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Koldblooded
United States661 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:30 Romance_us wrote: But you see, the difference is that religion CAUSES abducting, raping, murdering, and so on. Atheism does not. You cannot do any of these things in the name of atheism, but countless deaths have been created due to "God's will". I feel this is a common mistake people make. Religion does not kill. People do. The ones claim to do it for religion are the same atheïsts that kill for a thrill. They just claim to do it for God, which is obviously a false pretense. 'For God' is a reason often abused by people that do wrong to make it seem justified in hindsight. But then religion is never really the cause to begin with, the cause is much more something other than religion. It would be different when we all believed in a religion that has clear rules that leave only one possibility for interpretation and that says abduct, rape and murder are values which we should hold in high regard. This is however not the case. The Bible in it's current form and the way it's being read in the Western-World by individuals is much more often a religion that preaches pacifism rather than killing. And even if on occasion solely religion is to be blamed for a wrongful act then I am not sure how this outweighs the void in norms and morals atheism would leave in our lives and that could function as a feeding ground for fanatic lunatics out for a thrill or raping a little innocent girl. If you are a pure atheist I don't see any restraints from killing the person next to you other than your own feelings. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:39 WhatisProtoss wrote: Lol. Spoken like a true, ignorant bastard. Since when have Christians been holding their God to a moral standard? Was it God's fault that the child died? Who made that assumption? I thought the child was ill and was destined to die anyways. Her parents failed to get her the proper medical attention she deserved. So, is it, "You can only be my God if you uphold a certain level of morality. Otherwise, you don't really deserve to be my God." While Christianity is a bit stupid itself, the people who criticize Christianity are no better. If Christianity is indeed stupid, then criticizing it would certainly not be a stupid thing regarding the influential factor of Christianity globally. So I am really not sure what you mean. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:38 kidd wrote: Obviously Religion has its issues, but even an intelligent althiest can agree that it also has its positives. The positives could be achieved without the negatives. This story is no reason for someone to start bashing on Christianity (or any other religion) just because there were some idiots that made a very bad decision. Like all stories there is two sides to everything. This story is a perfect reason for people to express their dislike of those who believe what those people do. I'm looking at you, Christian Scientists. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On March 27 2008 04:55 Fumanchu wrote: This is not the fault of God, nor the fault of the religion of Christianity. IMO this is more of the problem of not enough research. These parents should have read and studied the Bible in greater detail before coming to the decision that prayer was the only way to heal a child if you are Christian. The Bible does have countless stories of people who have been healed by prayer, but in most of these stories, you will find out that while these people were praying, they were doing everything physically possible to help the indivdual in need. A lot of Christians stand out in faith trying to declare their dedication and their love for Jesus, but unfortunately most of these people are not equipped with the knowledge to back up their declarementions. As for why God did not save this girl, I can't say. I don't think we will ever know why God puts diseases in countries or allows for floods and hurricanes to destroy cities and wreck lives. However, I have personally seen the works of God firsthand and know that he is real and active in the world today. I have literally seen someones chopped off arm grow back right in front of my face. No joke. And what kind of a God would he be if everytime we asked for something he gave it to us? That's not a God, that's a genie. Although this girl's death is tragic and could have been avoided, we cannot comprehend the ripple effect that it will have on people. Quite possibly this death could lead to something far greater than we can forsee. God moves in mysterious ways, and although trusting Him even after something like this is difficult, it's never the wrong choice. wow what a sad post. Did you ever consider that diseases, floods and hurricanes are natural phenomena? Occasionally these things destroy cities and kill innocent children. It's not their fault and it just happens. And then you dare suggest that it might actually be a good thing for them that their daughter died...that's fucked up beyond words | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
maybe this girl has sick left arm strength | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:30 Romance_us wrote: But you see, the difference is that religion CAUSES abducting, raping, murdering, and so on. Atheism does not. You cannot do any of these things in the name of atheism, but countless deaths have been created due to "God's will". Oh boy. Antisemitism can be considered atheism, since it is the polar opposite of Jewish religion: hatred of Jewish religion. I believe antisemitism caused 60 million deaths.... | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:47 {ToT}Strafe wrote: If you are a pure atheist I don't see any restraints from killing the person next to you other than your own feelings. Unlike you, apparently, I don't need the threat of eternal damnation to keep me from murdering. | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:53 WhatisProtoss wrote: Oh boy. Antisemitism can be considered atheism, since it is the polar opposite of Jewish religion: hatred of Jewish religion. I believe antisemitism caused 60 million deaths.... Hitler believed in God. And NO, you are WRONG. Many anti-Semites have religions... Just not Jewish obviously. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:53 WhatisProtoss wrote: Oh boy. Antisemitism can be considered atheism, since it is the polar opposite of Jewish religion: hatred of Jewish religion. I believe antisemitism caused 60 million deaths.... No. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32157 Posts
On March 27 2008 04:55 Fumanchu wrote: I have literally seen someones chopped off arm grow back right in front of my face. No joke. lil too much DBZ! ![[image loading]](http://www.dragonball.com/sagas_db/big/Ep-110-(1).jpg) "They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see." Throw that douchebag of a cop in the jail with them, wtf | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:53 WhatisProtoss wrote: Oh boy. Antisemitism can be considered atheism, since it is the polar opposite of Jewish religion: hatred of Jewish religion. I believe antisemitism caused 60 million deaths.... Antisemitism was never the cause for WW2 the Jews that lost their lifes during the war were merely a victim on the side. And I can tell you that most of those 60 million weren't Jews but anti-antisemitic Russians fighting Nazi Germans. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On March 27 2008 05:53 WhatisProtoss wrote: Oh boy. Antisemitism can be considered atheism, since it is the polar opposite of Jewish religion: hatred of Jewish religion. I believe antisemitism caused 60 million deaths.... lol. | ||
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