God makes people doctors for a reason, right? - Page 8

On March 27 2008 16:20 Fen wrote:
This is extremely sad. Under our law, the parents would be charged with neglect (failure to provide medical treatment) and put in jail. The other children would be taken away and put into foster homes. I do hope this does happen to this family, because they are soley responsible for that child's death and should be punished for it.


A shot of insulin (Something millions of diabetics around the world self administer multiple times a day) would have saved this girls life. A test that would have taken mere seconds could have been used to accurately diagnose her. As far as this goes medically, this is a very simple problem. Which is why it annoys me soo much.

See people turn to religion when they do not understand something. Back thousands of years ago, people created gods because they did not understand how bolts of electricity could come down from the sky. This is a similar situation, the parents did not understand why their daughter was sick, and stupidly did the religious thing to do. Prayed to god.

What I find extremely annoying, is that had that girl severed an artery and started bleeding. I can garrentee you without a doubt in my mind that they would have taken her to the hospital instead of praying, while she bled to death. Medically, a severed artery is much harder to fix than diabetes, but because the parents for some fucking retarded reason didnt know that sickness is caused by biological abnormalities and not god, an innocent person died.

Now I have no problems with people that believe in a relgion. It has many helpful uses in peoples lives. However religion should step the fuck back and not get in the way of science.

On March 27 2008 04:13 Funchucks wrote:
I actually think it's a reasonable philosophical position to refuse medical treatment for yourself or your children under all circumstances, just as it's a reasonable position to refuse to steal food rather than starve.

For most of the time humanity was around, about a quarter to a half of children died before reaching adulthood. Generally speaking, the ones who died were weaker than the ones who survived.

What happens to the genetics of a population when you go from filtering out the quarter or half weakest in every generation, to keeping 99+%?

After about five or ten generations, don't you end up with a population of people full of allergies, and attention disorders, and diabetes, and social dysfunction, and depression, and weak eyes needing glasses, and laziness, and stupidity, and fatness, and clumsiness, and other low-grade inferiorities?

What do the people look like after a hundred or a thousand generations?

On March 27 2008 23:47 Rev0lution wrote:
at least we can agree that if god exists (and im sure he doesn't) then he was too GOD DAMN busy to cure that poor little girl.

On March 27 2008 06:57 Scorpion wrote:
God is dead - Friedrich Nietzsche

On March 27 2008 04:55 Fumanchu wrote:
This is not the fault of God, nor the fault of the religion of Christianity. IMO this is more of the problem of not enough research. These parents should have read and studied the Bible in greater detail before coming to the decision that prayer was the only way to heal a child if you are Christian. The Bible does have countless stories of people who have been healed by prayer, but in most of these stories, you will find out that while these people were praying, they were doing everything physically possible to help the indivdual in need. A lot of Christians stand out in faith trying to declare their dedication and their love for Jesus, but unfortunately most of these people are not equipped with the knowledge to back up their declarementions.

As for why God did not save this girl, I can't say. I don't think we will ever know why God puts diseases in countries or allows for floods and hurricanes to destroy cities and wreck lives. However, I have personally seen the works of God firsthand and know that he is real and active in the world today. I have literally seen someones chopped off arm grow back right in front of my face. No joke. And what kind of a God would he be if everytime we asked for something he gave it to us? That's not a God, that's a genie. Although this girl's death is tragic and could have been avoided, we cannot comprehend the ripple effect that it will have on people. Quite possibly this death could lead to something far greater than we can forsee. God moves in mysterious ways, and although trusting Him even after something like this is difficult, it's never the wrong choice.

On March 28 2008 09:49 BaDayOri wrote:

i see where your coming from.. but wouldnt christians, with me coming from a christian family and background, believe that if people had 100% true faith, they wouldn't need to do anything except pray? just simply allow god to do his work? If they took the daughter to the hospital it seems like they aren't completely trusting only on god.. im completely neutral just trying to look at both sides

On March 28 2008 09:48 MrOwMrOw wrote:
he died a psycho...not a good example lol...

but anyway...that's just plain horrible...religious EXTREMISTS caused this...not god...lol...