I received a PM from a poster here on TL.net encouraging me to write more about Korea today that inspired me to write something. I had an epiphany today and that is I write best when I'm hungover and can peice together my mangled thoughts. Here I sit, feeling like shit, ready to go.
Whenever someone I know through StarCraft comes to Korea, I try to take them for good food and then a fun night of drinking. I even did this for people I never really knew online and I never knew why...until now. It just hit me. I wasn't doing this out of the goodness of my heart of course, who the hell would do that. Imagine yourself sitting in the master seat of a VIP room of the best night club in Seoul with one or two fellow teamliquid.net users. A hot girl gets ushered into the room and sat next to one of the guys and they spend a minute or two trying to conversate in fucked up english while I sit there quietly and patiently sipping on a watered-down whiskey + beer bomb (One of the true beauties of Korea). The girl ends up getting frustrated after a minute or two and makes some bullshit excuse then gets up to leave the room and I can just say "Wait a second..." In Korean and the girl will instantly be so interested in the fact that I speak her language and I can tell her to come sit down next to me. Do you know how fucking good that feels? It feels damn good. That moment. That orgasmic moment in time is why I take these guys out. But unfortunately for myself and most people reading this, I probably don't know you, so here is my guide of how to spend your time on a vacation to Korea. What to do and what not to do. Warning: None of this is applicable if you're broke. This is a guide for young males only but I guess females could get something out of it.
Seoul is a pretty simple city, not that big, and very densely populated. The city itself is virtually cut in half by the Han river and both halves have very different characteristics. The north side is called Kangbok and it is the dirty side. Everything is less classy, less fancy, the appartments there are pretty run down and you see way less pretty girls on the streets. If you have a tight budget you can get a by week or by month appartment for very cheap and without a deposit. This is what the scum of the earth (english teachers in korea) do most of the time. I'm not saying I'm any better than them in the scum department, but wow. Do you know how many peice of shit twenty-four to thirty year old dudes I have met in Korea that reside here endlessly raking in their two to two and a half grand a month salaries teaching fucking dumbed down retarded english to Korean kids who's dumb fuck parents think that if their kid pass some fucking bullshit english test they are going to get in a good school in a country that has no good schools? Alot of them. From awkward walks of life in America they come and their confidence shoots through the roof as they make on average one thousand dollars more a month than the average Korean college graduate and they probably work half as many hours. On the weekends they go pimp their hot shit in the dirty clubs of Kangbok trying their hardest to pick up as many ugly sluts as they can, oblivious to the fact that the girls are ugly cause they can't tell asians apart and oblivious to the fact that they can't dance, they aren't cool, and they look like mother fucking retards. Not that picking up ugly girls is a bad thing, fat girls need loving too, but don't strut your shit around the streets as if you're a rockstar and don't brag to everyone about how many five foot tall stubby nosed skanks you banged. No one gives a shit. Gotta love it when you're walking down the street and theres an english teacher walking with a girl, thinking he's awesome, then he sees a fellow non-korean such as myself and we make eye contact and he gives me an "Oh FUCK a white person! He must know what I'm up to!" glance then breaks eye contact immediately. I live for those moments too. Anyways, Kangbok is where they stay most of the time. You, on the other hand, are going to stay in Kangnam. Locate yourself in one of these four areas that are all very close to eachother. Yeoksamdong, Kangnam, Apgujungdong, or Samsungdong. Your appartment might require a decent sized deposit, or you can get a full-option apartment that comes with everything that you can rent by day even if you want. I know a good place in Apgu called HumantouchStarville that has that, a bit pricy though. Anyways all housing can be researched online and you can find something that fits your needs. Get a phone too. You need a phone that works here.
You won't have to cross the river during your adventure if luck is on your side unless you plan on going to Walker Hill casino to play poker because it's currently the only casino with poker in Korea. Yeoksam, Kangnam, and Apgujeong are all you need. You are not going waste a day of your short life going to the famous demilitarized zone at the northern tip of South Korea. I have never been there myself but I can tell you without a doubt it's going to be a boring waste of a day and you're not even going to get any good pictures out of it. Look mom, it's me next to a fence and a mine field, Weeee! You are not going to go visit some temple. You are not going to go hiking on some Korean mountains. You're not going to go walk around city hall. You're not going to go watch Korean traditional dance. You're not going to go to some retarded Norebang(singing room) to experience Korean 'culture.' You're going to experience the delicious gogi and abundant sexy bars of Yeoksamdong, the lively bars and hip hop clubs of Kangnam, the expensive food shopping and night clubbing of Apgujungdong, and occassionally the food movies shopping and Starcraft of Samsungdong. If you're lucky you might run into some english teachers in any of these areas and get to punch some teeth.
Yeoksamdong is my personal favorite area in Seoul and coincidentally happens to be where I live. Though there are plenty of really good Gogi Jibs (meat restaurants basically) anywhere, Yeoksamdong offers alot of really good ones ranging from franchise to small family owned. When you eat in Korea don't eat any of the seafood, it's all bullshit. Also, I hear all the time newbies here saying "Wow that bulgogi/samgyupsal/dwejigalbi is soo good I love it!" Bulgogi is just cow meat prepared a certain way, Samgyupsal is fatty pig meat, Dwejigalbi is pig meat. These three a very commonly eaten and are not that good. They are good compared to a McDonalds hamburger maybe, but definitely not better than a McMuffin. Don't waste your time trying any of these meats. Galbi-sal is what you should order and lots of it. Galbi-sal is cow meat cut into smallish chunky slices and prepared in a certain way. It is very very good. Dip that shit in some Ssamjang (korean red sauce it's good) and wrap it up in some Yachae(vegitables/leaves etc), eat it with rice and a DenjangChigae (Korean spicy soup with vegetables in it, very good). My best advice is to eat this exact combo every day for dinner and possibly twice a day, it's actually a very healthy and non-fattening meal so long as you don't eat too much rice. Don't eat anything else, you'll be wasting time. Btw Soju is not good but it's a very cheap way to get drunk.
Yeoksamdong is home to the most and the best Sexy Bars...the ultimate pre-gaming locations. When I went back to the states last summer I went to some bars and wow it really made me appreciate Seoul. I couldn't even fucken order a bottle of jack daniels in Ohio, I could only get shots, and all the slack jawed yokels there were looking at me as if I'm a psychopath when I tried to order a bottle of alcohol. God not even fucking applebee's would let me get one and they even have a fucking bar with a shit load of bottles right there. You walk down a flight of stairs and open a dimmed glass door and enter heaven. The dimly lit comfortably small bar welcomes you with up to date hip hop music at just the right volume and several beautiful girls wearing bikinis or sexy gowns. You and your friends are seated on barstools and behind the bar one to three girls are provided for you depending how many are in your party and how packed the place is. The bring you hot towels and take your hand and give you a personal hand massages with it and ask you what you'd like to drink. The girls stay and talk with you and pour and mix your drinks for you the entire time and sometimes girls get rotated in and out. If theres not enough girls at the place to accomodate you the manager will always call another sexy bar in the area and tell them to let them borrow some girls for the night. Bliss. These girls are not whores in any way they are completely normal girls often students working there to help pay for school. Usually at any given sexy bar in yeoksamdong half the girls are really attractive and the other half are so-so but got the job cause they have big breasts. But since you'll be a newcomer to Korea and all TL.net geeks love asian girls you are going to find them all gorgeous. They are definitely attainable too if you have what it takes but they usually can't speak english so it might be hard. In these places you have to get atleast a bottle of liquor though, but all the alcohol there goes for almost the exact same price as normal bars! One time I was at one called Bikini University with some friends and this english teacher comes in pretty drunk and alone sits down at the bar and tries to order a beer repeatedly even though they keep telling him he has to order a bottle, then he got kicked out. LOL!
After about an hour and a half to two hours of drinking there head out to Kangnam to check out the hip-hop clubs. There are three main ones in Kangnam NB/Harlem/Mass NB and Harlem have been around a long time each and both play hiphop while Mass is new and plays techno bullshit so don't go there. These clubs are basically the same style as American hiphop clubs, drinking, loud music, grinding. Not much to say about them but you should certainly check them out. Approximately two long island iced teas and thirty minutes later you will realize you are in a hot sweatbox surrounded by Koreans who dance boring as hell, girls who you can't talk to because you don't speak korean and it's way too fucken loud anyways, and some english teachers grinding the ugliest girls in the club. I remember about a year ago I was in NB chilling at the bar cause I can't fucken dance and this white dude came up to me and goes "Sup man!" and I nodded. I really didn't want to talk to him but then I noticed he had small rubber bands on all five fingers of one hand and on three of the other. So I asked him what it was all about and he replies, "EIGHT GIRLS, TEN NIGHTS" proudly. Thats one of the biggest regrets I have in my life, not curb stomping him right then and there. Anyways, time for you to head to Apgujung.
If it were earlier in the day and weather was nice you certainly could go prowl the streets of Apgujeong around Rodeo Drive (pronounced Ro-day-oh) and see the hottest girls in Seoul all over the streets while you get some shopping done. But since you're pretty tipsy now you definitely have to go to Spot or Club I, the two best night clubs in Korea. Spot is located on the west side of Apgujeong and Club I is on the very east side of Apgujeong. Club I has nicer rooms than Spot but Spot has a better dance floor so it doesn't really matter. Club I is my personal favorite and it's located in the basement of the Riviera Hotel. Be glad you have your ID with you cause your ass just got auto-carded cause you're not Korean. Your waiter greets you and guides you through a hall filled with only hot girls going in every which direction sometimes being dragged by a waiter and sometimes going willingly and gets you to your room. It's a nice room with big couches encircling the table. The waiter goes to get your initial ten beers and one or two bottles of whiskey and as soon as the alcohol and fruit dish is in there suddenly some sub-waiter is sitting a girl right next to you. What the fuck is going on!!! That's booking it's korean style. Guys get rooms expensively girls get in for free basically and get dragged from room to room. They can leave when they want and they are not whores. You're smart though because you read this guide you know not to get flustered when you realize she can't speak english and you can't speak korean (they all speak a little bit anyways they are just shy to try when they know it'll be bad). Body language and dumbed down english is all you need. Plus you have the universal translater of all languages with you: Mr. Jack Daniels. You get denied and denied and denied over and over because of the language barrier though. Patience is the key. The bitch sat down then looked at you with disgust and instantly got up and left without even saying a word like a rude bitch. Fuck her, it's not your problem because your beloved waiter is in the process of shipping another girl. All it takes is one good connection and you're set to have fun the whole night. When I first came to Korea during one of my first night club experience this girl sits down and couldn't speak english at all but I was trying really hard at first and she was just totally not reciprocating and being rude yet not leaving at the same time. I turned to my friend and said "Wtf this girl is a stupid bitch why won't she leave?" Then she goes "By the way I'm a Korean American." And got up and left. She was pretty hot but whatever, she probably taught english. Also, there are some methods to get rid of a girl if you don't like her but she seems interested in you. Sip your alcohol without 'Cheersing' hers, continuously look at your phone, ignore her, or flat out tell her to get the fuck out. Gtfo works the best from my experience. It's pretty late like 5 or 6 AM now (closes at 7) and you're really drunk and horny and there aren't that many girls left in the club and no girls in your room but luckily you read this guide and knew to get the number of every girl you meet that you are interested in, even if they tried to leave the room, you always asked them for their number. Sometimes girls really just do have to go to the bathroom. Sometimes they really do have to go dance with their friends. It's only bullshit ninety percent of the time so theres always hope. You text message all five girls whos numbers you got and two of them reply. You then text the exact same message to both girls telling them to come to your room hoping atleast one will reply. After 5 minutes one of them walks in and you're good to go. Oh fuck two minutes later the other girl walks in and is like "WTF bastard" then walks out. No biggy though because guess what: It doesn't fucking matter. You bust out the most important Korean phrase there is "Uli Jib ae Ka ja!" (lets go to my place) and GG for that day. Night clubs are the only part of Korean culture that is really necessary to experience.
The next day you wake up hung over as fuck at 4 PM wondering where the hell the girl went but thats okay. Starcraft matches at COEX! Take a few shits, order some food, but not chinese food because chinese food in Korea is worse than chinese food in China. After all that you go out and get a cab short distance to COEX mall to watch some progamers battle it out. You sit there in the taxi in the insanely jammed up traffic still feeling like shit from consuming alcohol for 11 hours straight like a ticking time bomb ready to friggen explode and then you see an english teacher get hit by a bus and....ok blah blah blah thats getting too carried away! Anyways watching Starcraft matches at Coex or wherever pretty much fucking sucks. Nothing special about it and it might even effect how you view the grandure of the progaming scene negatively. It's a must-do atleast once though plus you'll certainly get on TV cause you're not korean so you can hold up a TL.net or a Fuck Nazgul sign. The area around Coex is pretty blah, theres some sexy bars though so thats always a plus. Samsungdong is a business area mostly like Yeoksam but less cramped and more car dealerships. Nothing to see there except Coex mall, but hey, thats the place in the world you're most likely to run into progamers or get a picture with Kang Min himself.
For whatever next day you decide to go out you should try out Circle in Apgujung which is basically inbetween both night clubs. It plays trance/techno style music but it's still a very good club. Find a way to call in early and reserve a table in the VIP lounge in the back to enhance your experience. But be warned the owner of many room salons (whoring basically) owns that club, so basically all of the really attractive females at that club are working girls (but are not working when they are there). You cannot succeed with these girls unless you buy them a car or give them ten thousand dollars, lol.
There are plenty of other locations where you can party. I guess I can take my word back and you could cross the river and check out Hongdae/Sinchon. Thats where most university students go to drink and club. Last time I was there I was drinking with an ex-roommate and some of his co-workers and this english teaching friend of one of his co-workers told me that I was wasting MY life in Korea by 'just playing poker.' Me and my roommate then verbally berated him into leaving. Haven't been back there since. The biggest concentration of non-korean people here is located on the dirty side of the river, in a place called Itaewon. Alot of US Army soldiers there. Itaewon has various ripoff cheap clothing shoes and whatever stores and you can bargain. There is one good club in Itaewon called Spy. The owner of that place owns a teleshopping channel so he makes all his white girl models party there on the weekends. Alot of Russian and eastern european girls there.
I'm running out of things to write and this article is starting to lull. Just as this article has started to lull so is does my life in Seoul. I still certainly love it here but if you come here for a vacation it will be great if you follow my guide but if you live here and get used to the all the stuff it's not all that. You need a shitload of money to have any fun here. Everyone smokes. Traffic is bad. Seoul is a very beautiful dirty city. But wherever you go it's going to be the same sick life. Drinking at whatever style bar, clubbing at whatever style club or night club. No pretty sites to see. While I am being a bit negative here I in no way feel negatively towards this these are just the facts as I see them. It's an awesome place for weeks and months but maybe after years it gets a bit burdensome. Certainly never gets old though. I luckily can stay refreshed because I'm blessed with poker as a job so I can travel around and do other stuff. I will remain here for a long time I'm sure though because all my best friends live here and I got no where else to go. Plus no matter how many times I swear to myself to stop going out so much every time I'm outa the country it just makes me appreciate how fun Korea is.
So come to Korea, follow my guide, maybe earn a few rubber bands for your fingers, stay here for days, weeks, or months whatever you like this guide alone will certainly last you that long and I didn't even include any of the dirty stuff you can do haha. If you're a loser with no life at the age of twenty-five with no job and girls don't pay attention to you and would like to teach a little bit of english then I just gave you a clear path to happiness, just don't ever fucking cross my path.
Write a book, seriously! Your style of writing is just fun. I enjoy every gossip and every korea advice. Although I feel like shit after reading this post, realizing that I'm the aspiring english teacher that would actually love living in the north of Seoul, I enjoy reading about your amazing life.
rek, if you'll have me i gotta go out with you and watch this all in action. I go to nights all the time but the chicks are just so so unhappy when the waiter brings them to a white dude even though I speak near fluent korean. most english teachers are definitely not american, they are canadian or australian and they aren't the worse of the worse, I think they are 2nd. #1 belongs to the kyopo's korean-americans who walk around thinking they're better than the koreans and want the koreans to bow at their feet because they can speak english while they wear run-dmc type hip hop clothing/ yankees hat/ malcolm x shirt/ that they wouldn't dare to put on in america
On December 23 2007 01:17 catbert1 wrote: rek, if you'll have me i gotta go out with you and watch this all in action. I go to nights all the time but the chicks are just so so unhappy when the waiter brings them to a white dude even though I speak near fluent korean. most english teachers are definitely not american, they are canadian or australian and they aren't the worse of the worse, I think they are 2nd. #1 belongs to the kyopo's korean-americans who walk around thinking they're better than the koreans and want the koreans to bow at their feet because they can speak english while they wear run-dmc type hip hop clothing/ yankees hat/ malcolm x shirt/ that they wouldn't dare to put on in america
I was going to try and defend my fellow 외국 teachers but meh you're right a lot of them of them are pretty annoying- don't try and learn any korean and think they're god's gift to (asian) woman. I find American soldiers worse though always funny seeing the curfew patrol rounding them up at midnight in Itaewon. Since during the late 80's/early 90's Korean parents aborted female foetuses like crazy due to their confucian son preference there's going to be a decided shortage of eligible females soon as it is. Already 4 out of 10 rural korean males are having to marry mail-order brides from Vietnam and China. Also, don't know If you heard but with the new regs its going to be a lot harder to get an english-teaching job here soon- going to require a criminal background check and medical checks including drug checks. The whole process could take about 6 months so that should put some of the noobs off. I would go home but I like watching SC on TV too much. ps 안산 마씨브 레프라센트! lol
lol at making fun of people who have no choice but to come here (us soldiers) when you volunteered to earn $2k a month living in a place in the middle of a fucking village (ansan)... i just can't understand what kind of place you come from to be happy in this situation
man.. i remember the last time i went to korean to visit family was summer like.. 5-6 years ago. i was probably only like 12-13 then so all i did was fucking rollerblade around the city with my cousins and play some boring ass games in pc bangs (actually they were fun, BnB from crazy arcade if anyone knows what i'm talking about).
I'm planning on going back this summer, now that i'm the age to drink and club i dont see why not. It's like going to las vegas when you're ten years old.. what the fuck are you gonna do at vegas when you're 10? don't go to korea if you're still a kid you're not going to have too much fun. Unless i'm mistaken and it's easy to illegally drink and club there and w/e.
rekrul you were talking about only 1 casino having poker in korea. is that where they host kppt also? my cousin won first place and 2nd and 3rd were these two white people. i don't know them but maybe you'll recognize them?
i don't know how difficult it is to do well in poker in korea, but im guessing its harder in america? because he's planning on coming to vegas soon to play the next wsop i think
oh yeah btw really nice read. i just came home from a friends house after watching 6 straight hours of heroes first season and couldnt fall asleep so duhh.. came to TL.net to see whats up. i'll keep these things in mind for the coming up summer ;p
On December 23 2007 02:37 catbert1 wrote: lol at making fun of people who have no choice but to come here (us soldiers) when you volunteered to earn $2k a month living in a place in the middle of a fucking village (ansan)... i just can't understand what kind of place you come from to be happy in this situation
No choice? You have a choice whether or not to join the military. Im sure some of them are OK but a lot of them are just straight up aggressive assholes who try to start fights with random people. Ansan's a bit bigger than a village 400 000 people and within subway distance of Seoul. I've got a good group of friends here, free Korean classes and a quality language exchange partner. How much do you earn in the military anyway? Edit- Anyway you're right shouldn't make fun of army boys. Most of them are just kids anyway who probably don't know any better. Must be hard for them. I'm not just here to earn money I really like learning Korean myself but when you consider the fact that accomodation is provided 2k$ a month isn't that bad. Well if you're from NZ anyway.
Ahaha, Dan! I teach English in Korea! - Don't go to a small hakwon (academy) but rather, work for the government or for a place that is known, like CDI or the Princeton Review. Unless you can speak Korean, sometimes smaller places will rip you off and not fulfill their contracts.
They aren't all jerks as Dan mentioned, but my God there are some terrrrrible English teaching white guys who think they are Gods. So annoying. Hanging out in the Hongdae area is fun, if you keep it light and are with your friends without spending as much as Dan does. Maybe it's different for girls, but .. yeah.
Dan, stop hating on the English teachers and Gyopos
i stayed in seoul for 3 weeks during spring break when I was a high school senior. I lived in the south mostly and went to i think kangnam to drink/eat noraebang with my fellow korean friends. After like the third night of drinking I went out to walk for a little bit cuz during the gatherings everyone is speaking korean and im just sitting there looking at the girls in the restaurants and getting really bored. I didn't have a phone and got lost in those alleyways (might've been apgu) whichever place that has a lot of alleys, like wide alleys. so i was like fuck and bought some soju at a store and got really drunk and felt really really lonely cuz i didn't understand anything around me. It was the first time I realized how much that sucks not being able to communicate at all. Only other place I remembered was this restaurant called the milk bar in the middle of kangnam I think that was pretty nice and had a wall with random people painting on it. Then I went to the north side and everything did become shittier kinda like china with run down roads and dirty schoolboys walking around, but I think I saw the prettiest girls there during nights near the big streets with clubs, etc. Overall it was an okay experience it just really sucked cuz I couldn't understand korean and hadn't gotten addicted to sc back then so didn't play much and it seemed like for a student all there was to do was eat drink noraebang drink, and i also can't sing either. Next time I go i'll remember to go to a progaming game and eat better food though I thought the food there was all good even at the really cheap restaurants with the red sauce dipped rice cake things and those lunched with nothing but little dishes of vegetables and rice. Also I really liked the fried chicken there and sometimes the pizzas.
You make fun of English teachers there... But actually.. I wanted to teach English in Korea or Japan after I graduate..
Will it really be that bad for me? The way you described the other faggot ass teachers?
I actually just wanted to teach to make money to support myself while I try to become a musician... well guitarist/singer kinda thing..
LOL theres nothing wrong with it and i really have nothing against people for teaching english i just had some funny experiences with them and posted like that to be humorous it wont be that bad
and lol yeah i know the guy on the right in that pic
Great stuff there Rekrul =) Really enjoyed reading this, even though I'm not interested in going to Korea in particular. Just another heads-up I guess, Seoul sounds like a great place.
On December 23 2007 00:37 Rekrul wrote:
If you're a loser with no life at the age of twenty-five with no job and girls don't pay attention to you and would like to teach a little bit of english then I just gave you a clear path to happiness, just don't ever fucking cross my path.
On December 23 2007 11:58 BroOd wrote: I still want to know what a beer bomb is. Is it dropping the whiskey into a beer like a car bomb, or something else?
it's just a shot of whiskey mixed with beer and stirred with a peice of ice
in korea normal hip hop clubs you can drink whatever but in night clubs you can only get beer/whiskey so you are forced to drink those poktangjus (beer bombs)
On December 23 2007 12:16 BroOd wrote: So what happens when foreigners go to these places and have no idea of the rules? Do they generally get kicked out asap or what?
You have to have to know a waiter to get in. And the rules are pretty simple but if you got a shaved head and look like US Army they won't let you in.
That's pretty fucked up.. but I can understand to a certain point. I remember awhile ago there was an incident where 2 american soldiers killed a korean girl? I can't remember the exact story but that's what happened.. EDIT: I looked it up, it was 2 korean teenage girls murdered by an american soldier in a traffic accident which was in 2002.
On December 23 2007 11:58 BroOd wrote: I still want to know what a beer bomb is. Is it dropping the whiskey into a beer like a car bomb, or something else?
it's just a shot of whiskey mixed with beer and stirred with a peice of ice
in korea normal hip hop clubs you can drink whatever but in night clubs you can only get beer/whiskey so you are forced to drink those poktangjus (beer bombs)
I think I may have seen that before, the wcg coordinator in Italy served me a drink and kept calling it "Korean Style"
It was a shot of jack toped up with beer, place a serviette or a coaster over the glass and mix it?
On December 23 2007 12:16 BroOd wrote: So what happens when foreigners go to these places and have no idea of the rules? Do they generally get kicked out asap or what?
You have to have to know a waiter to get in. And the rules are pretty simple but if you got a shaved head and look like US Army they won't let you in.
On December 23 2007 11:56 Rekrul wrote: but other than that only jap friends no chinese or whatever, and koreans do not tend to like asian people that dont speak korean from my experience
I've heard in general Koreans think they are the best and very very discriminate, guess it's true to some degree.
Ive been a fan of TL for a long time and decided to make an account =]
All of what Rekrul says is right. ESP the part where he says that all of that does not apply when you are broke. A night like he described can break 1K USD EASY. This is a bit of a word of warning to those that are planning to stay in Korea for an extended amount of time.
All of what Rekrul described is great for the occasional visit/stay/if you are really rich. However, do not expect to be doing this forever. 1) It gets really, really expensive 2) It gets boring. WHAT? ALL THAT CAN GET BORING?! Yes. Yes it does. Some of you may think that Korea is some mecca of nightclubs and bars and easy girls. Korea certainly does have its fair share of nights and bars and easy girls, but so does every country. Its great to hear about and experience (for awhile) to the outsider, but to the person who lives there its just Seoul. The clubs get old, the nights get old, and the girls who come to nights (everyone here posts that Korean girls are easy because they all seem to be night goers. Just like in any other city, girls going to nights are a certain type of girl. They know what theyre going for just like the guys, and after awhile you begin to see a lot of familiar faces at the nights.) After awhile the guy who says "lets go to night!" is like the guy who is always like (in the US) "lets go to the strip club! lets go to the club!" For the people here who are expecting to stay and are expecting life to be like this everyday, dont. But that is not to say that Seoul becomes boring. Not at all. There is ALWAYS something to do in Seoul. After you get out of the night phase, Seoul becomes like any other city. You go to work, make some friends, go out for some drinks and good food afterwards, hang out, maybe hit the PC bang, watch a movie etc. On the occasional weekend you may go to the nights and bars or whatnot, but it certainly is not a daily thing.
Rekrul I didnt want to seem offensive to you in this post. i was just posting another perspective on your view. =] Im in the States studying right now so Im not in Seoul atm, but one of my friends said NB closed. Is that true?
EDIT: Um crap. Rekrul basically said all of this in his last paragraph. Sorry -_-
But I would like to note that the cultural/historical stuff is actually really interesting, and I certainly like to take a mountain hike every once in awhile. Korea terrain is very breathtaking. But that is only for those interested, and I could see how it may not be for many people =]
On December 23 2007 11:56 Rekrul wrote: but other than that only jap friends no chinese or whatever, and koreans do not tend to like asian people that dont speak korean from my experience
I've heard in general Koreans think they are the best and very very discriminate, guess it's true to some degree.
lol this is true to a certain degree in every country man
On December 23 2007 11:56 Rekrul wrote: but other than that only jap friends no chinese or whatever, and koreans do not tend to like asian people that dont speak korean from my experience
I've heard in general Koreans think they are the best and very very discriminate, guess it's true to some degree.
lol this is true to a certain degree in every country man
All the asian countries hate each other.
Koreans also hate each other more than most.
i dont hate each other T_T love and peace all around yo
On December 23 2007 16:30 haduken wrote: Singaporeans can be very racist to Chinese people for some reason 0_o Koreans are okay, they may be racist but they don't show it.
lol wtf really? i got loads of singaporean friends and i <3 SG in general hmm. well might be cuz im in HK~_~
On December 23 2007 01:17 catbert1 wrote: rek, if you'll have me i gotta go out with you and watch this all in action. I go to nights all the time but the chicks are just so so unhappy when the waiter brings them to a white dude even though I speak near fluent korean. most english teachers are definitely not american, they are canadian or australian and they aren't the worse of the worse, I think they are 2nd. #1 belongs to the kyopo's korean-americans who walk around thinking they're better than the koreans and want the koreans to bow at their feet because they can speak english while they wear run-dmc type hip hop clothing/ yankees hat/ malcolm x shirt/ that they wouldn't dare to put on in america
On December 23 2007 16:30 haduken wrote: Singaporeans can be very racist to Chinese people for some reason 0_o Koreans are okay, they may be racist but they don't show it.
lol wtf really? i got loads of singaporean friends and i <3 SG in general hmm. well might be cuz im in HK~_~
that's probably cuz ur a honkie ^^. Anyway, most singaporeans are Chinese anyway so it's really Chinese people hating on eachother.. so sad.
lol rekrul, i think you drink WAY too much alcohol... and wtf you can only order bottles?! i could never drink one bottle of jack on my own... and you drink that just to warm up. i mean WTF?!
On December 24 2007 05:54 Celial wrote: lol rekrul, i think you drink WAY too much alcohol... and wtf you can only order bottles?! i could never drink one bottle of jack on my own... and you drink that just to warm up. i mean WTF?!
practice makes perfect
by this korean bomb drink, you mean that you simply mix everything? or do you mean something like this? (well its sorta like mixing, we call these "u-bots") - a glass inside of glass:
drinking one bottle of jack watered the fuck down with green tea over the period of say half an hour is like drinking 5 beers. Shit's kinda lame, should always drink it on the rocks unless there are girls around
On December 24 2007 05:54 Celial wrote: lol rekrul, i think you drink WAY too much alcohol... and wtf you can only order bottles?! i could never drink one bottle of jack on my own... and you drink that just to warm up. i mean WTF?!
practice makes perfect
by this korean bomb drink, you mean that you simply mix everything? or do you mean something like this? (well its sorta like mixing, we call these "u-bots") - a glass inside of glass:
On December 24 2007 14:03 Instigata wrote: I didn't know Korean women were such whores. Sounds like prostitutes with no cost. At least American girls you have to date.
Gangnam is fun, things are hoppin' and 99% of all the English teachers here are maladjusted douchebags, who wouldn't even have the balls to be true douchebags back in their home countries.
Gangnam is Madison Avenue, it's Soho, it's Roppongi Hills,
Gangnam is Friends, Sex in the City, the Devil Wears Prada.
Gangbuk is East Village, St. Mark's, Alphabet City, it's Harajuku,
Gangbuk is Rent and 8 Mile.
In New York, I hate Central Park. But I love Washington Square Park.
I like the grime, I like the gully, the indie, the street and the skate, the dive bars and guitars.
I love the thrift stores and condom shops and the graffiti blocks and the book cafes.
I mean, me and my friends used to only hang out at Gangnam or Apku... and don't get me wrong, I have fun at nightclubs and gangnam bars... and if I had better means I'd go to booking and sexy bars and whatnot... I clearly see the appeal of those places and I have fun at them too. But honest to god every week I feel like I need to get out of here. I work in Gangnam, and I get so sick of the plastic girls, the douchebags with money, all the GQ wannabes with empty brains. I love the weekends when I can go to Hongdae or Jongro or Daehakro or Itaewon or Samchungdong.
This is going to sound totally pretentious, and you can kill me for it, but shit is just more real up north.
My favorite way to get drunk is on a street-side tent, sitting on a plastic stool with good friends, washing down soju with clam broth and stir-fried gizzards.
Chinese food in Korea fucking rocks, Dan. Don't listen to him, ppl... order some of that hahaha. And there is so much more to meat in Korea than just galbi, too. And the simplicity of sangyupsal is what makes it so beautiful as well, in addition to how it is prepared in comparison to what normal Americans think of how asian meat is prepared.
And HonestTea, you nailed it buddy. Sometimes change like that is good. Hahaha. Let's do one of those street side tents next time I'm around in Korea. ;D
Korea is one of the most homogeneous countries in the world... if not the most homogeneous one of any relatively large economy in the world. Any country that has no contact with any other race tends to be more racist than a country that has much blessed diversity. But most racist? Strong word. Maybe most nationalistic due to what I might call a "small penis" syndrome being surrounded by gigantic powers (China, Japan, and the heavy US presence) so they thrive on their unity and identity and history as being distinct, thus deriving much pride from what they have accomplished so far.
Yeah I'm Korean. And actually very proud of my heritage. Was born there but now a naturalized American, which I'm also proud of. But a little bit of critical analysis of a cultural fault isn't always bad, ya know? It's better to admit your deficits than to never acknowledge them at all.
My words may have sounded pretty harsh especially written the way they were on the internet, but if you knew me, you'd know I don't mean it in a very harsh way at all. Heck, I even said I don't think "racist" is exactly the best term, just overly nationalistic. Korea's obsession with any prestigious event that a Korean is doing well in is evidence of this - seriously ask any Korean if they've ever watched random events and cheered hardcore for Korea even though they hardly care for the sport. Why? I say its to show the world that the Korean "penis" is growing. Yeah... Stuff like this happens everywhere, I guess, but it is fact that is is pretty severe in Korea.
Bah, I'm going off again. Basically, it's not a HUGE problem as nobody is openly really that racist but these feelings just tend to grow in extremely homogeneous environments as Korea is just no exception.
On December 24 2007 14:03 Instigata wrote: I didn't know Korean women were such whores. Sounds like prostitutes with no cost. At least American girls you have to date.
On December 24 2007 17:14 HonestTea wrote: And Rek is right.
Gangnam is fun, things are hoppin' and 99% of all the English teachers here are maladjusted douchebags, who wouldn't even have the balls to be true douchebags back in their home countries.
Think you might be generalising just a bit much there buddy. And I'm curious are you including 교포 English teachers or have you just got a hard-on about too many white people being in your country? In my home country there's a lot more Koreans than there are NZers in Korea and I don't have any problem with that at all. In fact I had many Korean friends back in Auckland before I came here and I did my best to help them out. Like I said before there definitely are a lot of dicks teaching English here who act like idiots but there are others who learn Korean and treat Korean culture with respect. You should think before you post garbage like this. I still have a very favorable image of Korea but when I see ignorance like this it does bother me about how xenophobic some koreans are getting. I know the media is to blame for a lot of it- shows like 판도라의 상자 did a real hatchet job on English teachers by taking a few bad apples and generalising it out to say that all English teachers have aids and are only here to sleep with Korean women. Edit- Anyway maybe you're just jumping on the rekrul bandwagon. Its easier than having to think for yourself isn't it?
On December 26 2007 01:56 haduken wrote: You have to admit that alot of english teachers are fuckwits. that goes for the ESL teachers in western nations as well.
I think there's 'fuckwits' in a lot of professions. What's yours by the way? Saying 99% is IMO drastically overstating the case. Mixed up in English Teacher hatred is often racism and xenophobia as well.
Hey buddy, You can't help that the bad apples are over-represented. You also can't help that Asians sees English teachers as people who can't find decent jobs at their home country. You can't call that racism, it's just stereotyping. You should see that as part of your job description.
for example. I'm Chinese and studies at an Australian Uni. I had to put up with people who think that 99% of Chinese kids here are spoiled brats and children of corrupted officials with too much money on their hands. Do you call that xenophobia too?
Haduken wrote: "Hey buddy, You can't help that the bad apples are over-represented. You also can't help that Asians sees English teachers as people who can't find decent jobs at their home country. You can't call that racism, it's just stereotyping. You should see that as part of your job description.
for example. I'm Chinese and studies at an Australian Uni. I had to put up with people who think that 99% of Chinese kids here are spoiled brats and children of corrupted officials with too much money on their hands. Do you call that xenophobia too? "
Yeah, good point, I would call that attitude at least partially based on xenophobia and just, plain ignorance. Unfortunately there's mis-representation in every country and western countries are far worse than Asain countries. It still kinda sucks though when you're on the receiving end of it. I can't give you details but back in NZ I actually made the evening news protesting against a political party's pamphlet that was making unfair statements about Asian immigrants. I received cards from many chinese who were grateful that I had taken a stand. It was a humbling experience. I'm also really grateful about the treatment I've had in Korea particularly considering I earn more than a lot of Korean graduates and it must be annoying for them to see a foreigner getting paid more than them. Eventually the level of English will be high enough here that they won't need anymore foreigners and I'm fine with that. I'm only planning to be here til the end of next year and then I'm going home to teach high-school English. I guess I just didn't want this thread to degenerate into a bunch of 'lol English teachers are faggots' from a bunch of high-school kids who don't know what the fuck they're talking about, but then I guess I shouldn't take the TL general forum too seriously.
On December 26 2007 01:56 haduken wrote: You have to admit that alot of english teachers are fuckwits. that goes for the ESL teachers in western nations as well.
I think there's 'fuckwits' in a lot of professions. What's yours by the way? Saying 99% is IMO drastically overstating the case. Mixed up in English Teacher hatred is often racism and xenophobia as well.
toma theres no reason to respond to honesttea like you did as obviously his '99%' was just a blah make a point number
if u wanna flame somoene about that subject u may as well flame all the shit i said in my post cuz that was all a way lot worse than what honesttea said
Ok I'm sorry I said 99%. That was an exaggeration. If I were to come up with a true figure, I'd say 58% douchebag. My apologies.
As for the flames,
You have me confused with a man who talks about shit I have no idea about. I don't. I've met many hakwon teachers in Korea. Korean and non-Korean. I have good friends who are English Teachers in Korea. I once was seeing a girl who made incredible money writing college essays. Hell, MANI is an overseas English teacher (albiet not in Korea)
And I think 58% douchebag is a fair number. And if not douchebag, many are aimless and only it in for the money, which takes a real toll on their soul and hurts them other ways. I seen it.
I know that it's not exactly peaches and cream to teach English here as a foreigner. I respect those who are here with the respect and the endurance to make it work. That being said, there are many here with the wrong attitude and the wrong motivations.
I hear ya. 58% sounds about right to me too. I've met my fair share of psychopaths and degenerates over here who really shouldn't be anywhere near impressionable young minds. I hope the new criminal background checks weed out some of the worst riffraff. The reason why they had to introduce the new checks is because a Canadian paedophile was discovered to be teaching here at an elementary school! Its something that should have happened a long time ago. ps- If anybody whose reading this has not graduated and are thinking about coming to Korea to teach on a fake degree, I wouldn't. They're taking that kind of thing a lot more serious now. A Canadian who was teaching with a fake degree got busted and had to serve a 6-month prison sentence before being deported. Its not worth it.
On December 26 2007 01:56 haduken wrote: You have to admit that alot of english teachers are fuckwits. that goes for the ESL teachers in western nations as well.
I think there's 'fuckwits' in a lot of professions. What's yours by the way? Saying 99% is IMO drastically overstating the case. Mixed up in English Teacher hatred is often racism and xenophobia as well.
toma theres no reason to respond to honesttea like you did as obviously his '99%' was just a blah make a point number
if u wanna flame somoene about that subject u may as well flame all the shit i said in my post cuz that was all a way lot worse than what honesttea said
Ah yes, but in my view you have 'artistic license' when it comes to posting because your posts are entertaining
If the english teachers are so horrible in all ways; then I suggest the selection criteria for hiring them be improved. End of story. You'd be an even worse douchebag to decline a job offering where you can get hired and receive good pay even if you are a douchebag.
And if 58% seems reasonable, then I guess your view of mankind is that 58% of all human beings are douchebags? If not, then please proceed to prove that english teachers in (to them) foreign countries are somehow fundamentally different from the rest of us (in that the majority of them are douchebags and we are not).
On December 24 2007 18:15 Klogon wrote: Yeah I'm Korean. And actually very proud of my heritage. Was born there but now a naturalized American, which I'm also proud of. But a little bit of critical analysis of a cultural fault isn't always bad, ya know? It's better to admit your deficits than to never acknowledge them at all.
My words may have sounded pretty harsh especially written the way they were on the internet, but if you knew me, you'd know I don't mean it in a very harsh way at all. Heck, I even said I don't think "racist" is exactly the best term, just overly nationalistic. Korea's obsession with any prestigious event that a Korean is doing well in is evidence of this - seriously ask any Korean if they've ever watched random events and cheered hardcore for Korea even though they hardly care for the sport. Why? I say its to show the world that the Korean "penis" is growing. Yeah... Stuff like this happens everywhere, I guess, but it is fact that is is pretty severe in Korea.
Bah, I'm going off again. Basically, it's not a HUGE problem as nobody is openly really that racist but these feelings just tend to grow in extremely homogeneous environments as Korea is just no exception.
Its like that for all smaller countries though. Having been to ireland 3 times i know first hand how much they love their irish athletes and entertainers etc.
On December 27 2007 12:06 homeless_guy wrote: whiskey in beer is called a boiler maker and is a fairly common drink in the u.s. with a longish history...
Correct.
I've never drank whiskey, at least I don't remember, I always look at it as an old mans drink.
The younger crowd seems to like jager bombs, usually made with jage + heineken.
Here's a video about a guido, he loves yayga bombz.
Man this guide is friggin awesome! I will definitely save it to my HDD and when I get the chance to visit Seoul, I will follow your advice! It's good to have some tips from you and not from a traveller's guide because you got all the insights. Kudos!
On December 27 2007 12:06 homeless_guy wrote: whiskey in beer is called a boiler maker and is a fairly common drink in the u.s. with a longish history...
Correct.
I've never drank whiskey, at least I don't remember, I always look at it as an old mans drink.
The younger crowd seems to like jager bombs, usually made with jage + heineken.
Here's a video about a guido, he loves yayga bombz.
This article/guide or whatever was probably the best shit I read in ages. I stayed an hour extra at work cause I had to read it all before going home. Next goal on travel-map 2009: Seoul
depending on what you consider 'fun', there's a lot of fun you can have on the 'dirty side' for like 1/10th of the money. sure, money makes everything easier, but your regular bar where you don't get kicked out if you only order a single beer can be nice and stylish too. unfortunately they don't serve you girls, so you gotta take care of that yourself, but that's not too much of a problem actually? they might not have gotten a nose/eyelid/boob job like your average apgujeong bitch and are not instantly bangable because they're not as easy (some), but they sure are decent enough and certainly feel more real.
rekrul, it is obvious that your lifestyle has suffered from already staying in seoul too long and having too much money on your hands. the regular tl.netter (underage, suffering from yellow fever) will be perfectly fine with shinchon, hongdae, samgyobsal and soju.
btw this is only my opinion because i am poor a bastard and try to convince myself that i don't have to cry over my miserable low budget life.
i'll be back in korea on 22nd january and spend my nights in shinchon for some 2nd rate fun maybe i'll even go visit a temple.
On January 12 2008 01:05 snowbird wrote: depending on what you consider 'fun', there's a lot of fun you can have on the 'dirty side' for like 1/10th of the money. sure, money makes everything easier, but your regular bar where you don't get kicked out if you only order a single beer can be nice and stylish too. unfortunately they don't serve you girls, so you gotta take care of that yourself, but that's not too much of a problem actually? they might not have gotten a nose/eyelid/boob job like your average apgujeong bitch and are not instantly bangable because they're not as easy (some), but they sure are decent enough and certainly feel more real.
rekrul, it is obvious that your lifestyle has suffered from already staying in seoul too long and having too much money on your hands. the regular tl.netter (underage, suffering from yellow fever) will be perfectly fine with shinchon, hongdae, samgyobsal and soju.
btw this is only my opinion because i am poor a bastard and try to convince myself that i don't have to cry over my miserable low budget life.
i'll be back in korea on 22nd january and spend my nights in shinchon for some 2nd rate fun maybe i'll even go visit a temple.
Soo...... hows that english teaching job working out for ya?
^^
Nah the culture stuff is cool, just don't blow your whole vacation on it depending on who you're going with I guess. One two days out of 10 are nice, rest is party time.
On January 12 2008 01:05 snowbird wrote: depending on what you consider 'fun', there's a lot of fun you can have on the 'dirty side' for like 1/10th of the money. sure, money makes everything easier, but your regular bar where you don't get kicked out if you only order a single beer can be nice and stylish too. unfortunately they don't serve you girls, so you gotta take care of that yourself, but that's not too much of a problem actually? they might not have gotten a nose/eyelid/boob job like your average apgujeong bitch and are not instantly bangable because they're not as easy (some), but they sure are decent enough and certainly feel more real.
rekrul, it is obvious that your lifestyle has suffered from already staying in seoul too long and having too much money on your hands. the regular tl.netter (underage, suffering from yellow fever) will be perfectly fine with shinchon, hongdae, samgyobsal and soju.
btw this is only my opinion because i am poor a bastard and try to convince myself that i don't have to cry over my miserable low budget life.
i'll be back in korea on 22nd january and spend my nights in shinchon for some 2nd rate fun maybe i'll even go visit a temple.
Soo...... hows that english teaching job working out for ya?
^^
Nah the culture stuff is cool, just don't blow your whole vacation on it depending on who you're going with I guess. One two days out of 10 are nice, rest is party time.
Depends on what you mean by "party time". If you mean going to the clubs and getting drunk, then that will be there everynight.
There's plenty of stuff to see/do in Korea, or any tourist country, you just gotta find out what they are and where they're at.
Yesterday I went to Ski World, it was pretty damn fun, I haven't went skiing since about 13 years ago.
well seems like you made a decent guide to seoul site seeing. but I can only read half of the odd negative shit that you state about things. it gets too repetitive.
On January 12 2008 18:49 NastyMarine wrote: well seems like you made a decent guide to seoul site seeing. but I can only read half of the odd negative shit that you state about things. it gets too repetitive.
I absolutely love his cynical and dark style of writing, especially as I see it being done with tongue in cheek
Rekrul goes way over the top many times in his guide. It's amazing how many sheep bought into it as if that's the way it actually is "fuck english teachers" lol. There is no need to get offended, Rekrul is just telling a story in a way he finds entertaining. If you don't like his writing style, read something else. Though at the root of his post that is the way the life style actually is; non stop action that almost becomes an addiction because other forms of night time entertainment just can't match up.
In any case, I think it'd be interesting to see if Rekrul still thinks korea is only for weeks or months and that it's lame for years. You know, see if he's found anything new.
Thanks so much for the bump, I actually missed this shit and it's downright awesome.
I'm trying to do about the same thing except it's in China since I speak the language ok, but it looks like this kind of girl-switching bars Rek speaks about don't exist there. Clubs are terrible because it's too loud to speak and I suck at dancing so it's basically gg no re. The best solution I've found out until now is to get invited to KTVs but it's pretty limited since I can only sing 3 songs or so and it's difficult to get invited EVERY evening when you don't know a lot of people yet.
But i'm pretty sure the legendary Path of the Night is universal, all I need is a chinese Rekrul to show me the way and I'm ready to watch my life go to waste.
I remember lurking this site and coming upon this. Very good read....But I also would like to know if there is any type of revision that can be done to the short read....
On December 03 2008 00:50 Matoo- wrote: Thanks so much for the bump, I actually missed this shit and it's downright awesome.
I'm trying to do about the same thing except it's in China since I speak the language ok, but it looks like this kind of girl-switching bars Rek speaks about don't exist there. Clubs are terrible because it's too loud to speak and I suck at dancing so it's basically gg no re. The best solution I've found out until now is to get invited to KTVs but it's pretty limited since I can only sing 3 songs or so and it's difficult to get invited EVERY evening when you don't know a lot of people yet.
But i'm pretty sure the legendary Path of the Night is universal, all I need is a chinese Rekrul to show me the way and I'm ready to watch my life go to waste.
i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure booking clubs are a korean phenomenon
Just to reiterate. The shit Rekrul does is REALLY FUCKING EXPENSIVE
And north of the river really isn't that bad. Of course south of the river is cleaner and more expensive. But you still have the two best uni student areas in Seoul:신촌 and 대학로 (Sinchon and Daehanro), THE clubbing area 홍대 (Hongdae) and a bunch of other interesting places like 명동 (Myeondong), 종로 (Jongno)..
I will prob write a guide for normal people visiting Seoul. ^^
edit: ohkay I just read the guide again..... 레크를님...언제 한국에 돌아와?.....
Take a few shits, order some food, but not chinese food because chinese food in Korea is worse than chinese food in China.
So true.
If you converted the internet phenomenon of "facepalm" into Chinese food, you would get the Korean 짜장면 (Jajangmyeon).
On December 03 2008 16:37 koreakool wrote: Would it be awkward for an American Chinese to live in Korea and not know any Korean? I mean, he would LOOK Korean... just not speak it.
On December 03 2008 16:37 koreakool wrote: Would it be awkward for an American Chinese to live in Korea and not know any Korean? I mean, he would LOOK Korean... just not speak it.
Very awkward. If you are Asian and can't speak Korean, they'll probably look down upon you. If you look at all Japanese, they'll probably hate you.
On December 03 2008 00:50 Matoo- wrote: Thanks so much for the bump, I actually missed this shit and it's downright awesome.
I'm trying to do about the same thing except it's in China since I speak the language ok, but it looks like this kind of girl-switching bars Rek speaks about don't exist there. Clubs are terrible because it's too loud to speak and I suck at dancing so it's basically gg no re. The best solution I've found out until now is to get invited to KTVs but it's pretty limited since I can only sing 3 songs or so and it's difficult to get invited EVERY evening when you don't know a lot of people yet.
But i'm pretty sure the legendary Path of the Night is universal, all I need is a chinese Rekrul to show me the way and I'm ready to watch my life go to waste.
i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure booking clubs are a korean phenomenon
Hostess club in Japan... Except it's mad expensive. I don't know how Japanese businessmen do it...
I'm really glad this thread got bumped - I had very little money when I was in Korea and it's interesting to see all the stuff you can do if you have money.
Rekrul's right about Apgugeong and Kangnam and those places - that's where it's at. I went to the Circle club once and it was great, except I was stuck with a bunch of Korean American girls who didn't know how to have fun.
Itaewon is a fun place to go if you've already been in Seoul for a while because it's just shocking at that point to walk down the street and see so many non-Asian people. There's a bar there that has all this mahogany wood and looks exactly like a stereotypical New England old money sort of place ... I walked in and felt like I'd been transported back home instantly. Itaewon is also a good place to go if you're sick of Korean food and want a (really expensive) burrito or something.
That being said, I'd say the variety and quality of Korean food was definitely something that kept me going. Galbi is amazing, don't get me wrong, but there are so many other interesting dishes you can try, and even some good seafood ones. Insadong is a good place for that because there are all these super-traditional places that serve more unusual food. There are just so many delicious things to eat, and some of them are just as expensive as galbi, so why limit yourself?
The StarCraft matches are the best entertainment money can't buy (because they're free). The huge LCD screens, the hokey lighting and fog machines, the high school girls screaming ... you just can't find that anywhere else. Then afterwards you can chill outside the stadium and chat with the pro gamers and see them interacting with their fans and receiving gifts - it's great to realize that the faces you've seen in the VODs actually belong to normal human beings and not stuck-up demigods.
If you find a girl you like and want to do something a little quieter and more romantic together, there's this very artfully designed river that starts in the city center which is shielded from much of the noise and traffic of the city and is really a beautiful place to walk at night. Definitely one of my favorite parts of Seoul.
Next time I'm back there I'll have some money in the bank and eat lots more galbi and check out the bars and clubs rekrul talked about. And yeah, the white old-enough-to-be-sketchy English teacher guys are fucking pathetic.
On December 03 2008 00:50 Matoo- wrote: Thanks so much for the bump, I actually missed this shit and it's downright awesome.
I'm trying to do about the same thing except it's in China since I speak the language ok, but it looks like this kind of girl-switching bars Rek speaks about don't exist there. Clubs are terrible because it's too loud to speak and I suck at dancing so it's basically gg no re. The best solution I've found out until now is to get invited to KTVs but it's pretty limited since I can only sing 3 songs or so and it's difficult to get invited EVERY evening when you don't know a lot of people yet.
But i'm pretty sure the legendary Path of the Night is universal, all I need is a chinese Rekrul to show me the way and I'm ready to watch my life go to waste.
i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure booking clubs are a korean phenomenon
This sucks. Korea should export its culture more. Especially this kind of culture.
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About the asian girl fetish, imagine a world where all girls look beautiful to you and your only criteria is their brain. Sounds fucking ideal tbh. To me it's more of a blessing than a curse. One may argue that it's the blessing of idiocy and ignorance but hey, it's not like choosing a girl based on her bra size was the most clever thing in existence either. Not speaking about marrying butt-ugly girls ofc, but life is so much better when even the average girl looks very attractive to you. But this feeling progressively disappears anyway so even the fetichists are fucked in the long term and back to basics I guess. :/
wait wtf?? you don't like the "chinese" food in korea? you guys don't really like 짜장면? thats so weird since i love it!! lol XDD esp since its so bad here in the states...
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