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On March 16 2023 04:23 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2023 03:34 Simberto wrote:On March 16 2023 03:31 Gorsameth wrote:
really makes you wonder what is going to happen when Ukraine launches a new counter offensive
That seemed to work pretty well last year. Let Russia exhaust themselves, then just run them over and free large amounts of territory. I hope we will see the same procedure and effects this year. Its funny seeing RTS dynamics so clearly apply to IRL warfare. Russia has been trying to close this game out a few times, and each time, they end up over extending and in a worse position because of it.
I guarantee you the concept of overextending and overstaying your welcome predate rts
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I don't think they claimed any different?
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On March 16 2023 17:34 MJG wrote:Interesting article from a BBC journalist whose been with Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64955537It's absolutely crazy to see a Maxim machine gun being used on the front-lines in 2023.
It's crazy in the sense that they should be museum pieces, I agree (I'm going to assume it's most likely a replica tho, as they're not uncommon), but in terms of the mechanics of a machine gun, they've evolved surprisingly little in the last 139 years. There's some differences in the exact mechanisms of course, but they're all varieties of "Push bullet into barrel, smak the back of it, pull empty shell out of barrel, repeat". Biggest drawback of that Maxim is the ridiculous weight, but if they're not lugging it around every day, that's more of a one-time issue
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I guess at the end of the day a gun is a gun, a bullet is a bullet, and a hole in the head is a hole in the head. Even civilians with handguns and molotov cocktails have helped repel Russian forces early during the invasion. Just the simple fact of a bit of extra lead filling the air creates additional problems for the enemy.
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yeah and old gun, providing its been properly maintained, is going to kill someone just as well as a modern one. There hasn't been that much advancement outside of stuff like weight.
Quite different from say tanks or aircraft where more modern models can have significant improvements in firepower and defensive capabilities.
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US government released footage from the reaper drone that got physically hit by russian fighter jets when they tried to dump fuel on top of it, pretty crazy footage
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That is quite the flex. Russia downs a drone and the US responds by showing they have the ability to bomb the FSB headquarters from the inside.
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On March 16 2023 22:27 plasmidghost wrote:Christ that pilot's a complete imbecile
How so? He was ordered to bring down the drone without legal troubles (i.e. opening fire), and he did it.
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Poland to give Ukraine fighter Jets.
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s president said Thursday that his country plans to give Ukraine around a dozen MiG-29 fighter jets, which would make it the first NATO member to fulfill the Ukrainian government’s increasingly urgent requests for warplanes.
President Andrzej Duda said Poland would hand over four of the Soviet-made warplanes “within the next few days” and that the rest needed servicing and would be supplied later. The Polish word he used to describe the total number can mean between 11 and 19.
“They are in the last years of their functioning, but they are in good working condition,” Duda said of the aircraft.
He did not say whether other countries would follow suit, although Slovakia has said it would send its disused MiGs to Ukraine. Poland also was the first NATO nation to provide Ukraine with German-made Leopard 2 tanks.
On Wednesday, Polish government spokesman Piotr Mueller said some other countries also had pledged MiGs to Kyiv, but he did not name them. Both Poland and Slovakia had indicated they were ready to hand over their planes, but only as part of a wider international coalition doing the same.
Germany’s government appeared to have been caught off guard by Duda’s announcement. “So far, everyone has agreed that it’s not the time to send fighter jets,” German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius told reporters. “I don’t have any confirmation from Poland yet that this has happened.”
Before Russia’s full-scale invasion, Ukraine had several dozen MiG-29s it inherited in the collapse of the Soviet Union, but it’s unclear how many of them remain in service after more than a year of fighting.
The debate over whether to provide non-NATO country Ukraine with fighter jets started last year, but NATO allies expressed concern about escalating the alliance’s role in the war. The hesitation continued even as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy made increasingly vocal pleas for Western supporters to share their warplanes.
Duda made the announcement during a joint news conference in Warsaw with the visiting Czech president, Petr Pavel.
Duda said Poland’s air force would replace the planes it gives to Ukraine with South Korea-made FA-50 fighters and American-made F-35s.
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Yeah, old MiGs. They were going to be decomissioned soon and we hoped they will never be used in war. Unfortunately life doesn't go well with wishes.
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On March 17 2023 01:28 Ardias wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2023 22:27 plasmidghost wrote:Christ that pilot's a complete imbecile How so? He was ordered to bring down the drone without legal troubles (i.e. opening fire), and he did it.
Uh, what? How is it without legal troubles? Intentionally downing another nations aircraft in international airspace is not legal regardless of how you do it. The consequences may have been more drastic if he had actually fired upon the drone, but the legality is hardly better.
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Also, note that in this case "legal" is kind of strange.
It is more about "what will the US do about it" rather than "what will a court say". Sure, there may be international courts and so forth, but they mostly just kind of arbitrate between countries. Sovereign countries can always just say "no" (but that may lead to negative consequences).
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Yeah the reaction from the US is probably going to be rather different between "our incompetent pilot crashed into you" and "we openly shot at a piece of US equipment"
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On March 17 2023 00:11 Mohdoo wrote:
That is quite the flex. Russia downs a drone and the US responds by showing they have the ability to bomb the FSB headquarters from the inside.
Another freak smoking accident.
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On March 17 2023 03:12 Ardias wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2023 02:31 Ghostcom wrote:On March 17 2023 01:28 Ardias wrote:On March 16 2023 22:27 plasmidghost wrote:Christ that pilot's a complete imbecile How so? He was ordered to bring down the drone without legal troubles (i.e. opening fire), and he did it. Uh, what? How is it without legal troubles? Intentionally downing another nations aircraft in international airspace is not legal regardless of how you do it. The consequences may have been more drastic if he had actually fired upon the drone, but the legality is hardly better. Firing on an aircraft or ship in international waters (airspace above is considered basically the same) is basically act of piracy at least. While collision or fuel dumping could be easily passed as careless flying, techncal malfunction or whatever. It was regular Soviet and Chinese tactic to push US vessels out of their zone of control without causing tension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Black_Sea_bumping_incidenthttps://web.archive.org/web/20140729152940/http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_287.shtmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
I think you are conflating "we are going to accept your pisspoor excuse to not escalate things between nuclear powers" with "legal".
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On March 17 2023 03:12 Ardias wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2023 02:31 Ghostcom wrote:On March 17 2023 01:28 Ardias wrote:On March 16 2023 22:27 plasmidghost wrote:Christ that pilot's a complete imbecile How so? He was ordered to bring down the drone without legal troubles (i.e. opening fire), and he did it. Uh, what? How is it without legal troubles? Intentionally downing another nations aircraft in international airspace is not legal regardless of how you do it. The consequences may have been more drastic if he had actually fired upon the drone, but the legality is hardly better. Firing on an aircraft or ship in international waters (airspace above is considered basically the same) is basically act of piracy at least. While collision or fuel dumping could be easily passed as careless flying, techncal malfunction or whatever. It was regular Soviet and Chinese tactic to push US vessels out of their zone of control without causing tension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Black_Sea_bumping_incidenthttps://web.archive.org/web/20140729152940/http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_287.shtmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
You are lucky the Americans are more level-headed than the mafia you call a government. They could easily down your fighter jet and get away with it, just like Turkey did.
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