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{CC}StealthBlue
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Gorsameth
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{CC}StealthBlue
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A Reuters investigation of a document trove found in an abandoned Russian command post in Balakliya, Kharkiv Oblast, supports ISW’s longstanding assessments about the poor condition of Russian forces. ISW has long assessed that the conventional Russian military in Ukraine is severely degraded and has largely lost offensive capabilities since the summer of 2022, that Russian strategic commanders have been micromanaging operational commanders' decisions on tactical matters, and that Russian morale is very low. Reuters’ investigation found that Russian units near Balakliya were severely understrength, with a combat battalion at 19.6-percent strength and a reserve unit at 23-percent strength.[1] The investigation found that poor morale, bad logistics, and overbearing commanders contributed to Russian forces’ poor performance.[2] The report found that the Russian Western Military District explicitly forbade a subordinate from withdrawing from an untenable position in the small village of Hrakove (which has an area of less than three square kilometers).[3] Ukrainian forces defeated Russian forces in Balakiya and routed Russian forces in eastern Kharkiv Oblast around September 8-10. Source | ||
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On October 27 2022 19:55 DropBear wrote: I mean surely the cold isn't going to be helping Ukraine's troop morale either Not going to help, no, but getting properly supplied like Ukraine is vs having to scrape by like Russian conscripts will have an even bigger impact in winter than it had in summer. Can't dig holes or march with frozen fingers or toes. | ||
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Silvanel
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Harris1st
Germany7403 Posts
Thermal imaging, weapon/ explosives/ payload function with subzero temperature and stuff like that? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11987 Posts
On October 27 2022 21:28 Harris1st wrote: Does the cold make a difference in warfare in general? Thermal imaging, weapon/ explosives/ payload function with subzero temperature and stuff like that? People. Warfare is done by people. Those people need to be outside in a trench for long periods of time (days or weeks potentially). Which is problematic if it is cold, and you don't have good cold gear. It is not only uncomfortable and thus really bad for morale, but people can actually die of cold, too. It is something we are not used to in modern times in western europe, so it is easy to just wave off cold temperatures as a small inconvenience. But if you cannot go to a warm house to spend most of your day it, and have to stay outside day and night, it can get bad. Edit: Imagine spending a week in a whole you dug in the ground. Now imagine doing that in winter. | ||
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
Edit: Changed extreme cold to frozen ground. And added a "could". | ||
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JimmiC
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Harris1st
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On October 27 2022 21:32 Simberto wrote: People. Warfare is done by people. Those people need to be outside in a trench for long periods of time (days or weeks potentially). Which is problematic if it is cold, and you don't have good cold gear. It is not only uncomfortable and thus really bad for morale, but people can actually die of cold, too. It is something we are not used to in modern times in western europe, so it is easy to just wave off cold temperatures as a small inconvenience. But if you cannot go to a warm house to spend most of your day it, and have to stay outside day and night, it can get bad. Edit: Imagine spending a week in a whole you dug in the ground. Now imagine doing that in winter. Sorry if I worded it wrong. Obviously the human factor in winter is the most important. But I was actually asking more for the machinery and technology of things. I mean a simple AK is probably not affected by lower temperatures but how about the more advanced stuff? And with thermal images you can probably spot someone holed up in a trench/ abandoned house from miles away. Heat signature differences and such. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
Not to mention how hard it is on people. Because of the prelevance of thermal imaging on both sides of this conflict heating is very problematic. You make a campfire --> You die, You start a generator --> You die. You start a tank or IFV --> You are visible to everyone around. That means You can't have warm food or have proper sleep. Even the best gear available doesn't make sleeping in extreme cold comfortable, it just makes it possible. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Israel has started working with Ukraine on intelligence, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Wednesday. Zelensky told a press conference in Kyiv that the cooperation between the countries was on a positive trajectory. “I’ll tell you honestly, I’m satisfied with the past few days,” he said, according to a statement from his office. “We started working. I won’t give details because our intelligence was working, but I want to say, after a long pause, I see these steps [as moving] forward. “We need Israel’s help and political leadership, and as I said, it has started in recent days,” Zelensky said. Still, Zelensky said he expects even more cooperation “because Israel is a state that knows in detail what war and tragedy are, and Israeli society fully supports Ukrainians,” his office stated. Zelensky said he hopes that relations between the governments in Jerusalem and Kyiv can be as warm as that between their societies. Source | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ardias
Russian Federation618 Posts
On October 27 2022 22:09 Taelshin wrote: @Jimmi if the ground is hard, is my point, you live in Canada, I know you know the difference, don't act a fool. Ground, yes. But hardness of the ground doesn't make much difference if there is metre-high snow on top of it. As for overall impact on warfare - it would become harder on both sides, that's for sure. Even if snow isn't too high for the tracked vehicles, there are still wheeled ones, towed equipment and foot soldiers moving around. You'll need extra heating for everything, from people to vehicles (for example, minimal guaranteed engine start temperature for T-72 diesel engine without preemptive heating is -20 C), extra heating = more exposure to thermals, more stress on logistics (add to that snow on the roads). You'll have to establish more permanent quarters for troops, since you can't sleep it out somewhere on the grass like in summer. Also there is issue with providing everything to civilians, any damage to utility infrastracture is much more crucial in winter. Though at least non-canned food preservation and water (since it's literally everywhere) are not much of a concern. Now the question is, if one side would percieve that other is suffering from the winter more, and would try the exploit it (like Soviets did in 1941 and 1942). So increased hardness of warfare doesn't necessarily mean cessation of hostilities. | ||
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