EPTWe should probably put to rest the foolish notion that he's going to be overthrown or assassinated.
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streets-ahead
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We should probably put to rest the foolish notion that he's going to be overthrown or assassinated. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 04 2022 20:45 WombaT wrote: This isn’t currently an unstable situation? Putin’s underlings half the times look like they’re shitting themselves in his presence, I’m not sure there’s a huge amount of buy in. Certainly not to the extent that Putin being gone would lead to a complete societal collapse and nukes go walksies It's magnitude more stable than a Russia after a coup, especially if the country is under so heavy sanctions. Military can go - fuck, let's nuke Ukraine, let's shoot protesters and let's keep everything under control with the army. And that's the more stable version of coup where army still has the control over the nuclear weapons. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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pmh
1399 Posts
There is no credible alternative for Putin in sight and without Putin the country would devolve into the chaos that was there in the years after the USSR did collapse. Almost any alternative is preferable for the Russian population,the Russian oligarchs and maybe even the west. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html From march 2014. With kissingers vieuw i dont always agree but i do very often. Probably the greatest geo-political strategist of the past century. A pragmatist formost,which very much aligns with my own perspective. A lot has happend since and i dont know kissingers opinion on the current situation. But this intervieuw does give a decent and pragmatic perspective on the crisis. That is not to say this is (or even could have been if we had a different aproach in the past) a solution. Things are easier said then done and it probably is far to late for any reasonable compromise. As i do think that at this point Russia would never settle for a no Nato and neutral Ukraine. They want it all with a puppet regime. Either in one state or devided in several. But this intervieuw does raise some important points and it is a bit more nuanced then the rather one sided and not very subtle perspective that we currently see in the media. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said that Russia has no "ill intentions" towards Ukraine, hours after Russian forces had seized Europe's biggest nuclear power plant. Putin made the comment on the state-controlled Rossiya 24 news channel on Friday in which he called on neighboring countries "to think about how to normalize relations." "I want to emphasize once again. We have no ill intentions towards our neighbors, and I would advise them not to escalate the situation, nor to introduce any restrictions," he said, according to news agencies. "All our actions, if they arise, always arise exclusively in response to unfriendly actions against Russia," he added. Putin also said: "We do not see any need here to escalate the situation or worsen our relations." Putin's comments come more than a week after he ordered an invasion that has caused numerous casualties and sparked a growing refugee crisis. The international community reacted with alarm when the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant was reportedly shelled by Russian forces, who captured the facility on Friday. The U.S. embassy in Ukraine tweeted that attacking a nuclear power plant constitutes a "war crime." As he spoke to mark a new ferry that would travel between its exclave of Kaliningrad and the rest of Russia, Putin also appeared to brush off the impact of sanctions imposed on his country. "We will just have to move some projects a little to the right, to acquire additional competencies," he said. "In the end, we will even benefit from this because we will acquire additional competencies." President Joe Biden has imposed new sanctions on eight members of the Russian elite, while the U.S. joined forces with European allies in kicking certain Russian banks out of the international SWIFT payment system. Foreign ministers gathered in Brussels on Friday to discuss what measures to take against Russia as it continues its aggression in Ukraine. British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said she wants agreement from the international community to restrict Russian oil and gas exports. Meanwhile, the United Nations Human Rights Council said on Friday it had voted to set up an independent commission of inquiry into Russia's invasion. There appeared to no breakthrough in talks between Russian and Ukrainian officials that might pave the way towards a ceasefire. Moscow has agreed to the need for "humanitarian corridors" to evacuate civilians and allow passage of aid but Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Friday there was "no talk" of Moscow and Kyiv signing any formal documents. Source | ||
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AEsgaims
United States237 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7950 Posts
Renewables are great but they only work as a complement to fossile and / or nuclear energy. You can’t depend on wind and solar energy to power a country; if it’s 7pm in winter and there is no wind, how are you supposed to deliver the power for your population all taking showers, making dinner, heating their houses and having all the lights on at the same time? Macron recent 180 over nuclear power is probably partly due to geopolitical considerations. I am not a big fan of nuclear power, but if we want to stop being Russia’s bitches AND reduce our co2 emission, it’s absolutely necessary. | ||
KwarK
United States43458 Posts
It would take the reversal of decades of social planning to reengineer Germany around electric heating. Homes have gas furnaces, they’re hooked up to the gas mains, gas for heating is as entrenched for heating as petrol for personal transport. That’s not to say we shouldn’t make a concerted effort to move our society away from fossil fuels, we should. It’s just to say that we haven’t yet done so and at present electricity does not meaningfully compete in the heating market. Closing a power plant doesn’t have a material impact because that power plant wasn’t competing against gas. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
Just look at the News from tonight. You can go 100% green with sufficent storage capacities combined with geothermic energy, tide energy and hydrogen and so on | ||
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KwarK
United States43458 Posts
On March 05 2022 01:32 dbRic1203 wrote: Nuclear Power solves one Problem and created 10 new ones. Just look at the News from tonight. You can go 100% green with sufficent storage capacities combined with geothermic energy, tide energy and hydrogen and so on But can you do it overnight? And if you can’t do it overnight what is the best thing to use in the interim. Nuclear advocates generally argue that nuclear causes far less harmful radioactive waste than coal (radioactive particles entering the air from burning coal) and has a lower environmental impact. Nuclear doesn’t have to be the final answer to be the answer right now. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
MOSCOW — Russia’s trade and industry ministry has recommended the country’s fertilizer producers temporarily halt exports, the ministry said on Friday, in a sign that sanctions imposed after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine could have a global impact. Russia is a major producer of potash, phosphate and nitrogen containing fertilizers – major crop and soil nutrients. It produces more than 50 million tonnes a year of the fertilizers, 13% of the global total. https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/russian-ministry-recommends-fertilizer-producers-halt-exports | ||
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Sermokala
United States14073 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On March 05 2022 01:32 dbRic1203 wrote: Nuclear Power solves one Problem and created 10 new ones. Just look at the News from tonight. You can go 100% green with sufficent storage capacities combined with geothermic energy, tide energy and hydrogen and so on Except nothing happened and the radioactivity levels are stable. Just like fukushima it's a testament of the safety of nuclear energy. But keep raising the price of energy across Europe to satisfy your delusions. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria835 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On March 05 2022 01:45 deacon.frost wrote: Welp, this doesn't look good. https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/russian-ministry-recommends-fertilizer-producers-halt-exports Wow. It's hyper cynical but another long overdue development could arise from that. The relentless reliance on limited resources in agriculture. It's not that scientists aren't warning of that for decades either, urging for a development towards a circular economy. Though with the vast majority of phosphorus reserves located elsewhere, at least this won't sting so much. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6261 Posts
On March 05 2022 01:24 KwarK wrote: Natural gas for heating doesn’t really compete with nuclear. Shutting down nuclear in favour of renewables for electricity can be done in conjunction with increasing reliance on gas for heating, they have distinct delivery systems, infrastructure, and efficiencies. The conclusion that nuclear power would make Germany less reliant on natural gas heating isn’t really correct imo. It would take the reversal of decades of social planning to reengineer Germany around electric heating. Homes have gas furnaces, they’re hooked up to the gas mains, gas for heating is as entrenched for heating as petrol for personal transport. That’s not to say we shouldn’t make a concerted effort to move our society away from fossil fuels, we should. It’s just to say that we haven’t yet done so and at present electricity does not meaningfully compete in the heating market. Closing a power plant doesn’t have a material impact because that power plant wasn’t competing against gas. Same with gas which is used by industry. Nuclear doesn't help with that. In addition it does nothing to decrease our reliance on oil which is what really funds the Russian state. Nuclear and renewables are important to reduce our reliance on Russia but not nearly enough. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 05 2022 02:24 Artisreal wrote: Wow. It's hyper cynical but another long overdue development could arise from that. The relentless reliance on limited resources in agriculture. It's not that scientists aren't warning of that for decades either, urging for a development towards a circular economy. Though with the vast majority of phosphorus reserves located elsewhere, at least this won't sting so much. Well, the Earth can support many more people WITH fertilizers. Without them it will be hard. Especially with this shock method, this will result in smaller crops, because recently the gas(which it is made of) was raising in price so everybody was waiting for the price to go down to start trading/manufacturing. This may have huge implications with food shortage. Edit> also western countries waste shitload of food and they won't stop now for some magical reason, the habits will be hard to break. Which won't help. This can be deadlier than the war itself. (I hope it won't) | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
On March 05 2022 02:31 deacon.frost wrote: Well, the Earth can support many more people WITH fertilizers. Without them it will be hard. Especially with this shock method, this will result in smaller crops, because recently the gas(which it is made of) was raising in price so everybody was waiting for the price to go down to start trading/manufacturing. This may have huge implications with food shortage. I've read to keep a close watch on impending food shortages and insecurities in the Middle East and Africa due to this war. That means a higher probability of conflicts, uprisings, and wars, which is tragic. We saw food shortages be a spark for the Syrian Civil War, as one example. This will resonate far beyond Europe at this rate. | ||
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