EPTRusso-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 26
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
Eh, doubt that. This is just spreading panic for the sake of panic. Also stream/recording(depending when you watch it): + Show Spoiler + | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10636 Posts
On March 04 2022 09:58 plasmidghost wrote: Former nuclear scientist is reassuring that it's unlikely going to have a meltdown like Chernobyl, but still https://twitter.com/CherylRofer/status/1499545123692204036 Not great, not terrible | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6214 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
A government official told The Associated Press that elevated levels of radiation were detected near the site of the plant, which provides about 25% of Ukraine’s power generation. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the information has not yet been publicly released. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-a3092d8e476949ed7c55607a645a9154 Cooling leakage? Anyway it appears they gonna test the theory it won't blow up properly. Not saying I don't trust the technicians from our nuclear power plants(same reactors, just smaller) or our head of Nuclear bureau, who repeatadly stated the reactor should survive hit by an airplane and shut itself down... but I would rather if it stayed at the theory level which not have been tested. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15391 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32736 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17182 Posts
- Can Russia defeat Ukraine before it collapses? - If it can't defeat Ukraine on time, what will Putin do? Is he mentally stable enough to admit defeat and not resort to some extremes? - Even if Russia wins this war, how long until sanctions kill it internally? - What are the chances of a coup in Russia? I believe that there may be more and more civil unrests in Russia itself (over 6k people have been arrested already) as its population is slowly waking up to the grim reality that they're at war and it's not going as planned. Russian news/propaganda portray their brave soldiers delivering tons of humanitarian support to poor Ukrainian neighbor who's being attacked by its own separatists in Donetsk. The levels of disinformation there are insane. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15391 Posts
On March 04 2022 11:54 PhoenixVoid wrote: U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham effectively calling for the assassination of Putin via palace coup. I don't know if it's because of the tension around this nuclear power plant (which looks to be secured and was at relatively low risk of meltdown or leakage anyways), but wow. A lot of alarm on social media I notice and Biden was on the call with Zelenskyy because of the attack on the plant. The IAEA says no increase in radiation levels yet. https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1499574209567199235 I don’t see the issue. He’s just the only one saying it out loud. Everyone wants Putin dead | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15391 Posts
On March 04 2022 12:03 Manit0u wrote: Now this is all getting very interesting and terrifying at the same time. It seems like the war has reached a bit of a pivotal point where there are questions like: - Can Russia defeat Ukraine before it collapses? - If it can't defeat Ukraine on time, what will Putin do? Is he mentally stable enough to admit defeat and not resort to some extremes? - Even if Russia wins this war, how long until sanctions kill it internally? - What are the chances of a coup in Russia? I believe that there may be more and more civil unrests in Russia itself (over 6k people have been arrested already) as its population is slowly waking up to the grim reality that they're at war and it's not going as planned. Russian news/propaganda portray their brave soldiers delivering tons of humanitarian support to poor Ukrainian neighbor who's being attacked by its own separatists in Donetsk. The levels of disinformation there are insane. The problem is that even if he wins, Russia is still screwed. Russia will be even more screwed if they win. Sanctions will only elevate the more damage Russia does. It’s not like “ok now that you won, you win and now everything is great” I truly believe this is a dead man’s last hoorah. Nothing Putin is doing has a chance of being a net positive 1 year from now. I really think this is Putin giving the world the middle finger on his way out. I think he has some aggressive form of cancer or something else. Does anyone have any interpretation of current events where Russia is a functional economy 1 year from now? | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On March 04 2022 11:54 PhoenixVoid wrote: U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham effectively calling for the assassination of Putin via palace coup. I don't know if it's because of the tension around this nuclear power plant (which looks to be secured and was at relatively low risk of meltdown or leakage anyways), but wow. A lot of alarm on social media I notice and Biden was on the call with Zelenskyy because of the attack on the plant. The IAEA says no increase in radiation levels yet. https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1499574209567199235 Jesus fuck. I mean, I know a lot of people in the US government are thinking that, but actually saying that is extremely concerning | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15391 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On March 04 2022 12:16 Mohdoo wrote: Does anyone have any interpretation of current events where Russia is a functional economy 1 year from now? Plan seems pretty obvious. China financially stabilizes Russia and Russia shifts its exports to Asia. Russia has an economy the size of Spain and all it does is export oil, gas, raw materials and intermediate industrial goods, China and India can easily absorb it. The country doesn't have a functional economy to begin with. | ||
KwarK
United States41933 Posts
On March 04 2022 12:24 Nyxisto wrote: Plan seems pretty obvious. China financially stabilizes Russia and Russia shifts its exports to Asia. Russia has an economy the size of Spain and all it does is export oil, gas, raw materials and intermediate industrial goods, China and India can easily absorb it. The country doesn't have a functional economy to begin with. China would have to build the entire oil export infrastructure for them from scratch. The existing infrastructure is coowned by western companies and exists to serve the western market. Russia can’t build it themselves. Doesn’t mean China wouldn’t do it but it’s not an easy undertaking. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On March 04 2022 12:33 KwarK wrote: China would have to build the entire oil export infrastructure for them from scratch. The existing infrastructure is coowned by western companies and exists to serve the western market. Russia can’t build it themselves. Doesn’t mean China wouldn’t do it but it’s not an easy undertaking. True but there's a reason Russia is building four nuclear ice breakers right now. They're not only going for land infrastructure but also control of the arctic and opening up of the Northern Sea routes to Asia. They're pretty all in on becoming Asia's gas station, it's been in the works for a while. President Vladimir Putin has made the warming region a priority, heavily investing in the so-called Northern Sea Route that allows ships to reach Asian ports up to 15 days faster than via the traditional Suez Canal route https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210715-russia-races-to-build-giant-ice-breakers-for-arctic-dominance | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15391 Posts
On March 04 2022 12:53 yoshi245 wrote: Even for Graham that's a bit much. He's always been a chicken-hawk warmonger neo-con type. Where is the problem? Who among our entire federal government wants Putin alive? This is bizarre for people to pretend this is shocking. I see nothing wrong with it. It is 100% certain Putin hopes Biden will die and Biden hopes Putin will die. The US and Russia are direct enemies. | ||
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