EPTRusso-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 268
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28673 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18001 Posts
On October 07 2022 22:02 Liquid`Drone wrote: Tbh, I considered editing my post because I'm less certain about Crimea being a necessity, although I would expect that Crimea staying part of Russia would require a lot more from other fronts. The west hardly responded to Crimea being acquisitioned in the first place so I could picture them accepting it staying under Russian control - but overall, the sentiment that 'Russia must pay for its actions' is felt very strongly, and a simple reversal to pre-february borders is not enough. For Crimea to stay Russian, something else would have to go (like much more severe reparations/disarmament/the rest of Ukraine joining NATO). The problem with Crimea remaining Russian is that their entire water supply depends on Ukraine. It was one of the primary reasons for the invasion in the first place. So if we agree Russia gets Crimea we also need Ukraine to concede opening up the canal again and guaranteeing a stable water supply. And that looks like a difficult condition even if anyone can convince Ukraine to accept a peace deal in which Crimea goes to Russia. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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KwarK
United States42738 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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0x64
Finland4557 Posts
On October 08 2022 00:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: The bigger question is how is China, and to a lesser extent India, reacting to Putin's waving the Nuke card. China is pro-chaos India is random, they are a dictature waiting to happen. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21694 Posts
On October 08 2022 00:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Both exist on Earth, therefor a nuclear conflict is the last thing they want. The bigger question is how is China, and to a lesser extent India, reacting to Putin's waving the Nuke card. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2558 Posts
I don't think anyone in China is hoping all of europe, russia and NA get glassed and would consider that a victory. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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0x64
Finland4557 Posts
On October 08 2022 01:27 Fleetfeet wrote: In like a simple boardgame state it makes sense for countries to be 'pro chaos', where the chaos is on the opposite side of the planet and likely serves to strengthen their position by weakening all others. In reality I don't see how you could describe any country as "pro chaos" because a nuke getting launched anywhere on the planet has real implications for everyone on the planet, because it won't just be one. I don't think anyone in China is hoping all of europe, russia and NA get glassed and would consider that a victory. Pro-chaos, counting on no-nuke outcome. US and Europe supporting heavily war and having strong negative effect on economy has allowed China to remove spotlight on their hacking activities, intellectual property theft etc... Also they are massive buyer of companies in Europe at cheap. In 10 years we will wake-up to it, I don't know if it will be a bad world but a different one for sure. To win, they need just not to do like Putin did :D and let Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore be etc. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4132 Posts
Ukraine's own advance continues at a pace comparable to Russia's. These are minor changes only when compared to the changes over the last month, otherwise this is very significant. My first thought is that Russia still cannot be underestimated. Even the smallest sign of weakness must be addressed. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/2f33989f2ac668b19f6936189ff903a2.jpg) | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17267 Posts
I'm lost for words. It's really hard for me to imagine being in such a situation (being self-employed I act as a 1-man business with all the taxes and reporting that go with it). Sitting in the freezing trench somewhere on the front lines with shells flying over my head trying to fill out all the required forms to file a monthly financial report to avoid fines for failing to do so or being late doing so... | ||
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Simberto
Germany11519 Posts
On October 08 2022 03:28 Manit0u wrote: Russia's Minister of Labor and Social Protection A. Kotyakov said that mobilized businessmen/entrepreneurs will not be exempt from taxation or financial reporting. In case of death 50% of their assets will be lawfully seized by the government. I'm lost for words. Is this a standard inheritance tax, or something special that applies here? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17267 Posts
On October 08 2022 03:31 Simberto wrote: Is this a standard inheritance tax, or something special that applies here? I would guess something special but I'm no expert on Russian financial laws pertaining to private business. I'm just quoting information I've found. If I compare it to the laws in Poland in case of business owner's death nothing goes to the government. It's all part of his assets as a physical person and thus gets inherited in full by the family (all the licenses and agreements are cancelled with the death of the owner though and business effectively stops working but there are no more taxes to pay etc.). | ||
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Simberto
Germany11519 Posts
Is the next step to draft all rich businessmen, then call an artillery strike on their position? I am not saying that that is not the case, lots of stuff in Russia and in this war is weird an strange. But it sounds like something that would be really indefensible in Russia itself? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17267 Posts
On October 08 2022 03:38 Simberto wrote: Is the next step to draft all rich businessmen, then call an artillery strike on their position? I think this would only really affect small businesses though, not the rich. Most rich people already have redundancies in place, turning their 1-man businesses into companies so that they have multiple co-owners and don't have to cease operation in case of death of a single person etc. But it truly sucks for all the small store owners, mechanics, IT people, private medical practice etc. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5563 Posts
On October 08 2022 03:38 Simberto wrote: If that were the case, that would be really, really weird, though. Kind of like an anti-recruitment tool. It also sets pretty strange incentives. Is the next step to draft all rich businessmen, then call an artillery strike on their position? I am not saying that that is not the case, lots of stuff in Russia and in this war is weird an strange. But it sounds like something that would be really indefensible in Russia itself? Russians are "apolitical". ;-) | ||
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Simberto
Germany11519 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17267 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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