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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17690 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-07 19:57:46
October 07 2022 19:57 GMT
#5361
One thing I can say for sure is that Putin doesn't look too healthy... His look reminds me of my grandpa short before his demise.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-07 20:01:00
October 07 2022 19:59 GMT
#5362
He just turned 70 yesterday, I believe.

But the biggest surprise was Lukashenko's birthday gift to Putin...

+ Show Spoiler +
A tractor lol
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5759 Posts
October 07 2022 20:02 GMT
#5363
On October 08 2022 04:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
He just turned 70 yesterday, I believe.

But the biggest surprise was Lukashenko's birthday gift to Putin...

+ Show Spoiler +
A tractor lol

To recover all those lost tanks. xD
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-07 21:29:38
October 07 2022 21:20 GMT
#5364
It appears the Norwegians may have discovered something.





edit: Huge explosions reported in Donbas area.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43664 Posts
October 07 2022 21:56 GMT
#5365
Putin is speed running the fall of the third Reich.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 08 2022 00:23 GMT
#5366
On October 08 2022 02:32 Magic Powers wrote:
So it looks like Russia has indeed made a serious advance over the last few days. Russia has been heavily attacking the Donetsk front for weeks, so this could be a sign of Ukraine's defenses breaking. We'll probably know soon enough.

Ukraine's own advance continues at a pace comparable to Russia's.

These are minor changes only when compared to the changes over the last month, otherwise this is very significant. My first thought is that Russia still cannot be underestimated. Even the smallest sign of weakness must be addressed.

[image loading]


It seems the gains is concentered in the area of Bakhmut and even the gains seem to be unverified. But they are doing random artillery attacks, then human and armor wave attacks.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43664 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 04:49:52
October 08 2022 04:25 GMT
#5367
Holy shit they got the Kerch bridge. Train carrying fuel caught fire and is just sitting there wrecking shit. What a birthday present for Putin.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1578606253588504577?s=20&t=EkPidaVz7f25px2j-9Gv_g
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
October 08 2022 06:58 GMT
#5368
I thought they didnt target the bridge for strategic reasons. I wonder what happened/changed.
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2316 Posts
October 08 2022 07:45 GMT
#5369
Looks like Ukrainians are burning all the bridges to the peace talks. Literaly, haha!
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Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation617 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 08:40:56
October 08 2022 08:31 GMT
#5370
At least one explosion (the one that got train on fire) seems to be from suicide bomber truck (video of the moment of explosion below). Seems that explosion was aligned with the passage of the train to maximize damage to the rail section of the bridge.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/66382
But the overal damage to the bridge suggests some secondary explosion as well, since there were two sections of the bridge that were destroyed (video of the consequences).
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/66385

Estimates on repair of the road section of the bridge are one-two months. For the rail section (the most important for military supplies) - currently unknown.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12053 Posts
October 08 2022 09:50 GMT
#5371
Seen some people speculate it was a boat explosion to lift things up and cause the damage. Others claiming it is a suicide truck run. Could perhaps be some pre-placed explosives combined with either option.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 10:30:51
October 08 2022 10:30 GMT
#5372
Sky analyst says the explosion is too big for a truck. Would have to be a missile (too big for what Ukraine reportedly has) or a special forces operation which blew up the bridge from underneath.
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1066 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 11:26:57
October 08 2022 11:19 GMT
#5373
There's footage from surveillance cameras. Sorry, The Sun is the source:

I think it was a truck bomb. Happy Birthday uncle Vova!
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15362 Posts
October 08 2022 11:50 GMT
#5374
So if I get that right that means the main rail link from Russia to Southern Kherson including Kherson city is cut. The only rail line goes all the way through (occupied) Ukrainian territory and would have to divert through Crimea on what looks like a separate line. Doesn't look like a viable alternative to bring equipment to Kherson. Never mind the destroyed bridged across the Dnieper.

[image loading]

Picture from reddit but can be confirmed on https://www.openrailwaymap.org/

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Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation617 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 11:59:42
October 08 2022 11:55 GMT
#5375
On October 08 2022 19:30 Zaros wrote:
Sky analyst says the explosion is too big for a truck. Would have to be a missile (too big for what Ukraine reportedly has) or a special forces operation which blew up the bridge from underneath.

Bridge wasn't blown from underneath, since
1) Pillars of the bridge are intact, it's bridge spans that were disjointed and fell into the water
2) Explosion on the road bridge damaged the train that was on the rail bridge. If explosion did happen underneath the road bridge, the bridge spans itself would have bear the damage.
3) The bridge itself is under constant surveillance and you can't just put few tons of TNT below it.
4) There is literally a video of exploding truck that I've posted.

There is a video of the truck in question being inspected.
https://t.me/meduzalive/70853
Seems that explosion was caused using by some exploding material of civilian use (since inspection didn't have any questions to the cargo), maybe ammonium nitrate, since it's just a fertilizer, so there are tons of it going around on regular basis, but it's highly volatile, especially in closed space, like container or building (see the Beirut explosion to see what kind of damage it may cause).

Our Ministry of Transportation reports that rail movement will be reopened by 20:00 today. So it seems that the rail bridge didn't suffer too severe damage (though there are two rail lines, so they may have opened only one, which wasn't damaged by the fire from the fuel train).
https://t.me/readovkanews/43592
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5759 Posts
October 08 2022 12:46 GMT
#5376
Guess inflatable air defences and smoke were not good enough. ;-)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 13:05:24
October 08 2022 13:02 GMT
#5377
Some are saying that it wasn't Ukraine but in a FSB inside job that struck the bridge, implying that there is a civil war going on inside Russia's intel agencies without Putin's knowledge.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9178 Posts
October 08 2022 13:07 GMT
#5378
On October 08 2022 20:55 Ardias wrote:
4) There is literally a video of exploding truck that I've posted.

Maybe you have better vision or something, all I see is a flash
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11768 Posts
October 08 2022 13:08 GMT
#5379
Not impossible, but do we have any actual indicators towards that, or are people just making shit up?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 08 2022 13:14 GMT
#5380
Still waiting on a clearer picture of what happened, but apparently there's a major internal power struggle going on in Russia right now. I think that Russia loses Crimea by the end of the year 100%



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