Russo-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 133

On May 30 2022 02:39 Poegim wrote:
Polish radio informed that Poland provided 18 polish newest AHS Krab (crab) self-propelled tracked gun-howitzer 155mm for Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHS_Krab

On May 31 2022 00:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Biden says he won't send long-range MLRS (max range of 300km) to Ukraine out of fear they could strike Russia and escalate NATO's role, but the admin appear to be leaning towards short-range rockets (max range around 70km) instead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61627316

EU leaders agreed late Monday night on a political deal to impose sanctions on Russian oil imports.

“Agreement to ban export of Russian oil to the EU,” European Council President Charles Michel tweeted from a leaders’ summit in Brussels. “This immediately covers more than 2/3 of oil imports from Russia, cutting a huge source of financing for its war machine.”

The Council of the EU must still formally agree on the sanctions.

The compromise will allow Russia’s pipeline oil exports to the EU to continue temporarily, while seaborne shipments are blocked by the end of the year, as European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced earlier this month.

Von der Leyen tweeted that the leaders’ agreement “will effectively cut around 90% of oil imports from Russia to the EU by the end of the year.”

Germany and Poland, which could benefit from the pipeline exemption, have committed themselves to a de facto shutdown of the northern Druzhba pipeline, several EU diplomats said.

There is also an agreement to “complete the [closure of the] southern branch as soon as possible,” an Elysée official said. The southern leg of the pipeline delivers oil to Slovakia, Hungary and the Czech Republic.

An EU official said the Czech Republic got an 18-month exemption from the ban to cover the resale of oil products.

Hungary has also ensured an there is an emergency provision to ensure the security of supply if their pipeline deliveries are cut off, EU diplomats said.

Slapping an embargo on Russian oil would be one of Europe’s most significant steps in restricting the revenue available to President Vladimir Putin to wage war in Ukraine. But the proposed move was held up for several weeks by Hungary, which argued its economy would be hammered by a blanket ban.
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On May 31 2022 16:30 zatic wrote:
Very interesting thread on A) the ratio of casualties by origin of Russian troops and B) some (speculative) reasoning about the special role of Chechen forces in Russia in general.
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1531238266283900932

Does anyone have source about the composure of the Russian forces deployed in Ukraine? Casualties only say so much, do we know where the forces come from? I am asking because I would assume that Moscow would try to send as few European Russians as possible into Ukraine.

On May 31 2022 21:44 Gina wrote:
Here's another link: https://zona.media/translate/2022/05/20/casualties_eng - here the casualties counted are indeed fatalities, and they show how the number of casualties relates to the median income in a region.

On May 31 2022 21:58 Ghanburighan wrote:


That's an awesome resource. Thanks for sharing.

This is only confirmed kills, with a self-proclaimed bias towards officers (1/5 of the total, which is way too much, but officers receive more attention so they're more likely to be confirmed). But one would expect St. Petersburg and Moscow to be over-represented due to the large numbers of officers, but yet Moscow has only 30 deaths per 11m residents. In contrast, Dagestan has 159 per 3m, Buryatia has 117 per 1m, Volgograd 96 per 1m, etc etc.

On May 31 2022 23:04 Ardias wrote:

Why would you think that officers en masse would be from Moscow and St. Petersburg? Education in military academies is mostly funded by budget, so money isn't the case. And the fact that most academies are in Moscow and St. Petersburg doesn't mean that a lot of their cadets will be from these cities. In fact, military service is unpopular among youth in there, so academies generally filled with people from all over country.
Plus officers are mosty living (and being registered) in the regions where their unit is assigned to at the time of peace. So I doubt there would be a lot of Moscow/St. Petersburg residents on the frontline even among the officer corps.
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On June 01 2022 01:56 Sermokala wrote:
The obvious reason why a lot of casualties haven't come from some reasons is their closeness to Ukraine. How much are you going to trust soldiers in battle that have family and friends on the other side or live within 100km of Ukraine? Remember "liberating russian speakers" was a clear part of the message, if goes to say that leveling those "russian speakers" homes might make their family members unhappy.

On June 01 2022 02:17 Ghanburighan wrote:


If you look at Gina's link, you'll see that quite a few people came from Rostov, Crimea, Belgorod, etc.

On June 01 2022 03:05 Oukka wrote:

Is it people stationed there or people born there? I didn't see that distinction and the conclusions might be quite different depending on the answer to that question.