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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12443 Posts
5 hours ago
#10421
On April 15 2026 08:12 dyhb wrote:
The post-October 7th world has changed the recruitment scenario slightly. Prior to that, you were part of an Iranian-funded and trained state-within-a-state with over 100,000 rockets ready to fire on Israel the zionist entity, with ample reason to believe you could obliterate the zionist entity (as Hezbollah's charter declares). Now, it's a teeny tiny bit different. Your longtime leader is dead, his deputies got pagered, the rocket attacks are now sporatic with depleted inventory, and your former base of operation is occupied by a hostile army.

So I reject the look to past recruitment to present recruitment. I'll repeat the full answer for your benefit. The Lebanese people outnumber Hezbollah, but have been under the thumb of Hezbollah, and are under no mystical belief that the Israel-Gaza situation upsets that status. They have seen the Hezbollah missiles and rockets flying to Israel, and have seen the missiles and rockets flying back. Bringing up Gaza-Israel as a primary motivation for the Lebanese to join terrorist regimes, given their experience with the current terror regime, is nonsense and I think you know it.


I'm sorry to say but there's no content in this, it's just a bunch of words. The world in the future will be different seemingly only because you say so. People didn't decide to join Hezbollah based on the amount of missiles that they could get to launch on Israel, that's not the way humans make decision.

I realize that this is mostly academic because it's not like Israel will just stop attacking Lebanon in the scenario where "Hezbollah is gone", as obviously they don't really care about Hezbollah they just want to grab more land, so there's not going to be a future where we can demonstrate any of that. But really we shouldn't need a demonstration, your claim is dubious just on its own.
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6050 Posts
40 minutes ago
#10422
On April 15 2026 15:01 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2026 08:12 dyhb wrote:
The post-October 7th world has changed the recruitment scenario slightly. Prior to that, you were part of an Iranian-funded and trained state-within-a-state with over 100,000 rockets ready to fire on Israel the zionist entity, with ample reason to believe you could obliterate the zionist entity (as Hezbollah's charter declares). Now, it's a teeny tiny bit different. Your longtime leader is dead, his deputies got pagered, the rocket attacks are now sporatic with depleted inventory, and your former base of operation is occupied by a hostile army.

So I reject the look to past recruitment to present recruitment. I'll repeat the full answer for your benefit. The Lebanese people outnumber Hezbollah, but have been under the thumb of Hezbollah, and are under no mystical belief that the Israel-Gaza situation upsets that status. They have seen the Hezbollah missiles and rockets flying to Israel, and have seen the missiles and rockets flying back. Bringing up Gaza-Israel as a primary motivation for the Lebanese to join terrorist regimes, given their experience with the current terror regime, is nonsense and I think you know it.


I'm sorry to say but there's no content in this, it's just a bunch of words. The world in the future will be different seemingly only because you say so. People didn't decide to join Hezbollah based on the amount of missiles that they could get to launch on Israel, that's not the way humans make decision.

I realize that this is mostly academic because it's not like Israel will just stop attacking Lebanon in the scenario where "Hezbollah is gone", as obviously they don't really care about Hezbollah they just want to grab more land, so there's not going to be a future where we can demonstrate any of that. But really we shouldn't need a demonstration, your claim is dubious just on its own.

Since the Six-Day War Israel has mostly shrunk rather than expanded. Gave up Sinai, Gaza, and parts of the West Bank to make a patchwork administrated map there. Not clear that they just want to grab land now.

Also, when the Allies defeated the Axis it didn't cause the victims who lost their friends and relatives in the European Theater to start feeling hatred towards the Allies that then caused them to form another terrible group that was worse than the Nazis for the innocents around them. Sometimes you can just defeat evil and it stops and you make the world a better place.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12443 Posts
4 minutes ago
#10423
On April 15 2026 19:53 oBlade wrote:
Also, when the Allies defeated the Axis it didn't cause the victims who lost their friends and relatives in the European Theater to start feeling hatred towards the Allies that then caused them to form another terrible group that was worse than the Nazis for the innocents around them. Sometimes you can just defeat evil and it stops and you make the world a better place.


Evil isn't the important part for this conversation, the important part is that it's reactionary. It happens as a reaction, specifically to a behavior by Israel. If the behavior continues, then it stands to reason that the reaction will continue. The nazis are the root of the violence associated with nazism, which is why it also stands to reason that getting rid of them stops that violence; but even then, if the US had decided to occupy parts of Germany for decades and casually kill hundreds of Germans a year while the world looks away, you probably would have different beliefs about the outcome.
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