I don't know enough about political situations in either country, but honestly, "environment that validates the far right's worldview" is not something that is grounded in reality, the right-wing worldview is that all immigrants who are not white and christian are unwelcome and the enemy, I'm not sure which exact party would you be able to put in that is going to reverse this view, which is, of course, grounded in xenophobia and hate.
Also, it all largely depends on your definition of right, arguably, the right is currently in power in Germany. Germany was able to avoid having the far-right in power since WW2, at the risk of repeating myself, saying that a "non far right party" that somehow fixes every economical anxiety that is mostly behind these feelings, plus reverses years of brainwashing is not something that is realistic, and putting the blame on this functional non-existing party is just counter productive.
In the case of France, I have a bad feeling that given their fiscal situation if leftists get a president and a majority they might drive France off of a fiscal cliff, after which a real far-right might come in and turn the country into a nightmare similar to current USA.
That might be me buying fear mongering and bullshit, it's not like real leftists got a chance to rule a country the size of France in decades, but it's something that worries me nonetheless.
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On March 17 2026 00:19 Jankisa wrote:
I don't know enough about political situations in either country, but honestly, "environment that validates the far right's worldview" is not something that is grounded in reality, the right-wing worldview is that all immigrants who are not white and christian are unwelcome and the enemy, I'm not sure which exact party would you be able to put in that is going to reverse this view, which is, of course, grounded in xenophobia and hate.
Also, it all largely depends on your definition of right, arguably, the right is currently in power in Germany. Germany was able to avoid having the far-right in power since WW2, at the risk of repeating myself, saying that a "non far right party" that somehow fixes every economical anxiety that is mostly behind these feelings, plus reverses years of brainwashing is not something that is realistic, and putting the blame on this functional non-existing party is just counter productive.
In the case of France, I have a bad feeling that given their fiscal situation if leftists get a president and a majority they might drive France off of a fiscal cliff, after which a real far-right might come in and turn the country into a nightmare similar to current USA.
That might be me buying fear mongering and bullshit, it's not like real leftists got a chance to rule a country the size of France in decades, but it's something that worries me nonetheless.
The main anti-immigrant drive in France is anti-muslim, and the Macron opposition to the far right in France is very anti-muslim as well. This goes from ""thinkers"" like Enthoven or Fourest to strategies (my favourite examples: the minister of Education of the Macron government, a few years ago, talked positively about islamoleftism, a conspiracy theory in which the left is allied with islamists in order to overthrow France, or in this recent round of elections it has been argued many times that the far left party is antisemitic for electoral purposes, they want the votes from the muslims, and you know, those evil muslims, how do you get their vote, you just have to hate Jews like they do). It is very very accepted in France that hating muslims is the correct position to have, so eventually voters are going to wonder why they keep voting for the party that doesn't want to do anything about it. Several of his ministers, like Retailleau, when talking about islam you couldn't differentiate them from far right people.
Last year (or two years ago? God) Macron called snap elections, what he wanted was to get a far right prime minister. Didn't work out for him, the left got more votes than the far right. So he simply ignored the results of the election and kept a macronist prime minister, even though his party came third. He needed support from the far right in order for his guy to get in rather than the left guy, don't worry he got it.
On top of this you also have a process of normalization of the RN, which billionnaires like Bolloré are mostly responsible for but Macron's party is doing its part as well. For the elections yesterday, Aurore Bergé (from Macron's government) called the most leftist party "the anti-France" (which is a Vichy government formulation) and put support behind the idea of tactical voting with the far right in order to stop the left from getting elected when that was possible. The left is described as "outside the Republican field" while the Rassemblement national is not.
So, yes, it is absolutely grounded in reality that a lot of work is done to create an environment that validates the far right's worldview. When it wasn't done, such as in Germany since WW2 as you point out, but also in most other countries, the far right simply couldn't win, because its ideas are bankrupt, its thinkers stupid, and its goals reprehensible. You need to elevate them in order for them to be a threat, and they are elevated mainly because people who have a lot of power feel that they would rather have them in opposition than they would have leftists who question the societal order.
Electing a far leftist is the only electoral way out of that spiral, as it has the potential of resetting the Overton window. It may absolutely fail, you are correct; but the other alternative simply cannot succeed, so it's not like we have a bunch to lose.
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