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On November 04 2020 10:41 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:38 Lmui wrote: Pretty much, the world is looking at the USA and shaking their heads wondering why the fuck this is so close and nailbiting.
It was like this in 2016 too, I was with my coworkers and thinking that there was no way the USA would be dumb enough to elect Trump, but here we are. Because we let states that will never vote blue help choose Democrat candidates. I never thought of that. Is there strong correlation?
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On November 04 2020 10:38 Lmui wrote: Pretty much, the world is looking at the USA and shaking their heads wondering why the fuck this is so close and nailbiting.
It was like this in 2016 too, I was with my coworkers and thinking that there was no way the USA would be dumb enough to elect Trump, but here we are.
In 2016 at least he was a political unknown. There was a chance he would at least surround himself with competent people and do a good job despite being a bad person. I truly can't understand how it is close this year though.
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On November 04 2020 10:42 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:40 Mohdoo wrote: Arizona and PA are the only states I have felt like Biden has a shot at winning. When do we hear those results? At least a few hours before anything meaningful comes out of those. AZ is west coast, PA looks like they're taking their time counting votes. NC looking strongly Trump right now. Another swing state looking down for the count.
PA will probably take several days.
Several counties won't even start counting their early votes until tomorrow.
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On November 04 2020 10:44 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:42 LegalLord wrote:On November 04 2020 10:40 Mohdoo wrote: Arizona and PA are the only states I have felt like Biden has a shot at winning. When do we hear those results? At least a few hours before anything meaningful comes out of those. AZ is west coast, PA looks like they're taking their time counting votes. NC looking strongly Trump right now. Another swing state looking down for the count. PA will probably take several days. Several counties won't even start counting their early votes until tomorrow.
Doesn't seem like we can expect a blowout so if it's the decider electoral college wise it'll probably be drawn out in weeks of legal challenges.
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On November 04 2020 10:44 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:42 LegalLord wrote:On November 04 2020 10:40 Mohdoo wrote: Arizona and PA are the only states I have felt like Biden has a shot at winning. When do we hear those results? At least a few hours before anything meaningful comes out of those. AZ is west coast, PA looks like they're taking their time counting votes. NC looking strongly Trump right now. Another swing state looking down for the count. PA will probably take several days. Several counties won't even start counting their early votes until tomorrow.
No Republican has ever won the White House without winning in Ohio. If Trump loses Ohio, Pennsylvania might not even matter. An Ohio victory for Biden would also allow us to reasonably extrapolate that the polls of the other Rust Belt states - specifically Michigan and Wisconsin - are accurate... which means Biden should win them too.
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On November 04 2020 10:41 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: The senate seat in NC is more important than the presidential election really. Democrats really need that to flip. NC is heavy early vote and same-day is expected to favor Trump so not likely it seems (also why NYT needle is favoring Trump last I checked).
I don't see either going Democrat personally, but nothing happens in the senate without seats changing hands.
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On November 04 2020 10:41 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:38 Lmui wrote: Pretty much, the world is looking at the USA and shaking their heads wondering why the fuck this is so close and nailbiting.
It was like this in 2016 too, I was with my coworkers and thinking that there was no way the USA would be dumb enough to elect Trump, but here we are. Because we let states that will never vote blue help choose Democrat candidates. Plus minorities seem to prefer establishment candidates over people like Sanders.
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Penn up 80-20 for Biden with first reports in
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On November 04 2020 10:43 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:42 Zambrah wrote:On November 04 2020 10:42 Trainrunnef wrote: Who is ready for another 4 years of Trump? I steeled myself for the strong possibility when they picked Biden, lol yes because Bernie was so much more electable lmao
After the Corbyn experiment ended in utter failure does anyone still think far-left is the future? It's easy to look at a candidate doing poorly and claim someone else would do better, but in reality that's pretty much a baseless assumption.
I voted Biden. I'd vote Trump over Bernie 100% of the time.
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Not really the major focus of today, but probably worth noting. Gubernatorial elections today look set for a large Republican win, as expected. Maybe about two where there might be a flipped seat.
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On November 04 2020 10:46 AsariCommando wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:36 Cricketer12 wrote: Biden's TX lead has narrowed to 1.5 with 47% reported He's up 3% now with 62% counted. Yup, they just added Austin- Travis County with 90% of the votes reporting.
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On November 04 2020 10:43 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:42 Zambrah wrote:On November 04 2020 10:42 Trainrunnef wrote: Who is ready for another 4 years of Trump? I steeled myself for the strong possibility when they picked Biden, lol yes because Bernie was so much more electable lmao Considering Bernie's lead with independents and all of the polls that ranked him better in head to head versus Trump, yeah, he was.
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Texas cities have been massive for Biden, but Biden's poor performance with Hispanics is still continuing to be his demise. The Southern Tip of Texas that Clinton won by huge margins is only small wins for Biden right now. Not sure if it'll be enough to make Texas blue.
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Ohio lead dropped to 10 points with 50% in
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On November 04 2020 10:43 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 10:41 Zambrah wrote:On November 04 2020 10:38 Lmui wrote: Pretty much, the world is looking at the USA and shaking their heads wondering why the fuck this is so close and nailbiting.
It was like this in 2016 too, I was with my coworkers and thinking that there was no way the USA would be dumb enough to elect Trump, but here we are. Because we let states that will never vote blue help choose Democrat candidates. I never thought of that. Is there strong correlation?
It's called rigged and the American system is just so fucking flawed it makes heads spin.
Here's the thing. They need a reform but that will never happen because the people who get the seats will never do it.
Their whole system is backwards.
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So what I'm gathering from Texas is that Biden has overperformed everywhere but Texas is so red that he hasn't done enough.
Since Texas was on everyone's wish list, is anyone watching Ohio since it's more akin to an actual battleground state?
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Trump may outperform RI from where he was in 2016.
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The fact that Virginia is still heavily Trump with Biden declared the winner is eyebrow-raising. They counted a lot more votes and it didn't move all that much yet.
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