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On November 08 2020 05:35 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 05:32 Zambrah wrote:
Tbh I predict Dems lose hard next election TBH I expect this to happen to. Biden most likely, in all honesty, will resign after 2.5 years and let Harris take over, then have her run for re-election that way. There's no way that Biden is going to survive another election cycle (figuratively not literally, though his age is already an issue). Dems MIGHT be able to do something about immigration, they might be able to get some better COVID policies through EOs and the such. They'll rejoin climate change organizations and America will look better in the international lens. But the main things people want are jobs and a strong economy. It really will depend on if Biden can get McConnell to work with him. If McConnell decides, nah we're not gonna work with you, suck it up, then Dems are looking to be in a split government with nothing to get done, Republicans will blame Democrats for doing nothing and we'll see those same swing states that won Biden the election go back to being red.
The focus has to be on tying the Senate, then getting DC/PR statehood for more senate seats and looking at the Supreme Court / federal judge appointments. Do what the R's have been doing for decades.
Tbh, Chuck Schumer is a bit of a loser here. How in the world did they lose ALL of Montana, Maine, NC, SC and Iowa. 9 figures thrown at those races.
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On November 08 2020 05:39 Nevuk wrote:
I'm not sure. If Trump's misdeeds actually get investigated fully, his worst acts are going to be dragged into the public conscious for at least two years. Many of his worst acts were covered up and never actually investigated.
The GOP also won't run cover for him.
Rich people don't go to prison, though, so as soon as he's out of the public eye chances are that the prevailing desire to keep it that way will make it so as long as he's able to keep his mouth shut right after he finishes this post-election tirade.
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[But the main things people want are jobs and a strong economy.
This is where I don't follow Americas, especially Republicans. Sure, it matters, but so should things like the conditions in those jobs, healthcare, security, infrastructure, education, and an actual possibility to get a better life if you are clever and work hard, not only the illusion of it.
Iirc, Trump promised major investments in infrastructure when he won in 2016, I doubt much was ever done.
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On November 08 2020 05:39 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 05:38 Zambrah wrote:
Yeah, another session of Do Nothing Democrats isn’t going to win hearts without a boogeyman to rely on.
I also predict a ravenous Republican base looking to dethrone the people who dethroned their weird little god king, and a complacent Democrat base to be out to brunch.
I think the only branch of anything Dems will hold is the House Republicans are going to run on how Biden hasn't fixed everything in 2 years and 'win' the mid-terms off of that. What happens in 4 years is more up in the air.
Midterms or presidential, I think Republicans are favored unless the Democrats go full Stacey Abrams. Lots of grassroots organizing, no more primary fuckery, all in on attacking obstructionist Republicans, don’t fucking pull a Biden but with Harris this time.
Legit, I will vote Republican out of spite now that Trump is gone, only Blue I’ll be voting will be Progressive if I see Democrats keep their same old dumb “coastal elite” attitude up.
Tired of losing, tired of brunch Democrats, tired of American poverty, tired of empty platitudes and promises, tired of politics interfering with the good of the American people.
The Democrats have the resources and people to do shit that should make them consistent favorites, but they’re not doing it, and they need to get off their complacent asses and start making some effort.
Instead they’ll probably go all Spanberger and pivot right and keep spitting on the progressives in the party though.
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On November 08 2020 05:42 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 05:39 Nevuk wrote:
I'm not sure. If Trump's misdeeds actually get investigated fully, his worst acts are going to be dragged into the public conscious for at least two years. Many of his worst acts were covered up and never actually investigated.
The GOP also won't run cover for him. Rich people don't go to prison, though, so as soon as he's out of the public eye chances are that the prevailing desire to keep it that way will make it so as long as he's able to keep his mouth shut right after he finishes this post-election tirade.
No, he's going to jail or at the very least, dealing with an absurd number of both civil and criminal trials.
He's almost certainly going to lose most of his wealth (Deutsche has said they're going to call 500 million due early on him and seize his assets when he can't repay them) and he's already listed as a coconspirator in an indictment in NY state. He's so despised in NY state that it doesn't matter whether he stops talking or not (and he won't), and he literally can't pardon himself of these crimes.
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On November 08 2020 05:38 Zambrah wrote:
Yeah, another session of Do Nothing Democrats isn’t going to win hearts without a boogeyman to rely on.
I also predict a ravenous Republican base looking to dethrone the people who dethroned their weird little god king, and a complacent Democrat base to be out to brunch.
I think the only branch of anything Dems will hold is the House
Dems will really need to push the agenda on McConnell, but even when they've tried that it hasn't exactly worked. We'll see if that can happen though.
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On November 08 2020 05:44 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 05:39 Gorsameth wrote:On November 08 2020 05:38 Zambrah wrote:
Yeah, another session of Do Nothing Democrats isn’t going to win hearts without a boogeyman to rely on.
I also predict a ravenous Republican base looking to dethrone the people who dethroned their weird little god king, and a complacent Democrat base to be out to brunch.
I think the only branch of anything Dems will hold is the House Republicans are going to run on how Biden hasn't fixed everything in 2 years and 'win' the mid-terms off of that. What happens in 4 years is more up in the air. Legit, I will vote Republican out of spite now that Trump is gone, only Blue I’ll be voting will be Progressive if I see Democrats keep their same old dumb “coastal elite” attitude up. Tired of losing, tired of brunch Democrats, tired of American poverty, tired of empty platitudes and promises, tired of politics interfering with the good of the American people.
Which Republicans do you see helping on those issues like poverty?
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On November 08 2020 05:46 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2020 05:38 Zambrah wrote:
Yeah, another session of Do Nothing Democrats isn’t going to win hearts without a boogeyman to rely on.
I also predict a ravenous Republican base looking to dethrone the people who dethroned their weird little god king, and a complacent Democrat base to be out to brunch.
I think the only branch of anything Dems will hold is the House Dems will really need to push the agenda on McConnell, but even when they've tried that it hasn't exactly worked. We'll see if that can happen though.
They need to push McConnell and make sure every single person in every single potential swing state knows what McConnell is blocking, and they need to go a step further and make sure that that areas senators are voting with him to block it if they are.
McConnell can’t be a boogeyman on his own, we need to make every congressman who works with his obstruction into boogeyman too. Elsewise were just deflecting everything onto one man in a state that won’t flip blue.
EDIT: No Republicans will help on poverty, but if Democrats won’t either I’m not going to enable their centrists to shift right and keep winning.
Basically I’m going to turn myself into a Spite Swing voter.
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On November 03 2020 15:32 LegalLord wrote:So, lots of ads all over the place recently. This one in particular though, from Biden's campaign on Facebook caught my eye. Claims you should donate to Biden because the internal polls show a very tight race: + Show Spoiler +Well I'm sure I don't believe it (since if you actually go to his website you see no reference to any of these polls), but as far as clickbait goes it certainly got the job done.
So, wanted to revisit this from earlier in the thread.
1. At least one of those "public polls" was from Trafalgar, lol.
2. The idea that the race is closer than the polls was pretty accurate, but the states they highlighted were mostly not the states that swung. Florida did, but the margin was off there as well.
An intriguing nothing-burger in light of the actual final results.
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gotta enjoy the free (tax payer funded) golf trips for a couple more months
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This Puerto Rican throwing a paper towel back at Trump is the best celebration I've seen so far
There's a double feeling with seeing all the crouds though, Covid didn't stop for the election
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On November 08 2020 05:39 Nevuk wrote:
I'm not sure. If Trump's misdeeds actually get investigated fully, his worst acts are going to be dragged into the public conscious for at least two years. Many of his worst acts were covered up and never actually investigated.
The GOP also won't run cover for him.
not a chance in hell trump faces consequences for his actions imo.
which i should extend then to say as a result nothing will be investigated, or at least publicly.
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Can't imagine that Biden wants the two first years of his presidency be all about Trump, yeah.
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Doubtful as well. The US does like facing its sins it simply adjust the narrative to perceive as good guys winning that's it.
Otherwise Nixon, Regean, Clinton, and Kissinger would have been put in jail.
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