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{CC}StealthBlue
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: NV AG in response to the Trump campaign suit. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1324774820244938753 I would love how bad they are at this if they werent in charge of the US | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10579 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: NV AG in response to the Trump campaign suit. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1324774820244938753 The Trump administration should just be another chapter by itself in any law student's professional responsibility class. God I can't wait to take that class next semester. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:04 PhoenixVoid wrote: Clyburn, Abrams, John Lewis' spirit, the enthusiasm of black voters in Detroit, Philly, Milwaukee and Atlanta made this possible. In what world are Detroit, Philly, or Milwaukee located in Georgia | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10579 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:11 Zambrah wrote: In what world are Detroit, Philly, or Milwaukee located in Georgia think he meant in general for why Biden managed to win these swing states. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:08 IyMoon wrote: I would love how bad they are at this if they werent in charge of the US Imagine if he wasn't scraping the bottom of the bargain bin for these lawyers... | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:11 FlaShFTW wrote: think he meant in general for why Biden managed to win these swing states. What does that have to do with the Georgia run off though | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10579 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:12 Zambrah wrote: What does that have to do with the Georgia run off though it doesn't, but I'm just saying what I think he meant to say. He probably correlated Abram's success to the overall black vote turnout for the general. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On November 07 2020 02:58 IyMoon wrote: not at all. You just need to get rid of the big buster. That only takes 50+1 Practically speaking 50 + 1 isn't enough for bigger, more controversial changes like adding justices or getting rid of the filibuster. You'll usually end up with a few senators getting cold feet (usually Manchin or Sinema). Getting 50 + 1 would be important for Biden's agenda, but wouldn't really mean anything more progressive or controversial getting through. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8213 Posts
On November 07 2020 02:06 FlaShFTW wrote: "I'm sorry, then what's your problem?" Will be echoed through the halls of many court rooms in the near future. For anyone who missed it, this thread was just the funniest thing to read as a law student. As someone mentioned, it looks like it's from The Office or something. Only the best people. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:14 FlaShFTW wrote: it doesn't, but I'm just saying what I think he meant to say. He probably correlated Abram's success to the overall black vote turnout for the general. I think Abrams is a unique case of ground game though, she got out there and interacted with people, I'd honestly say I think Killer Mike from Run the Jewels had more of an impact on Georgia than Clyburn or John Lewis did tbh | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32755 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:12 Zambrah wrote: What does that have to do with the Georgia run off though Oh I misread it a bit it seems ha. I thought you meant the race in general, not just the Georgia run-offs. But yeah, Abrams needs to be appointed to some leadership in the Democrats because she's a damn fighter and made this possible. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 07 2020 02:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: iirc the stock market temporarily tanked when Trump was elected in 2016 It tanked and recovered literally over night. It was pretty funny because several people had accurate predictions of how much it would drop... but not that it would recover before it opened the next day. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:17 PhoenixVoid wrote: Oh I misread it a bit it seems ha. I thought you meant the race in general, not just the Georgia run-offs. But yeah, Abrams needs to be appointed to some leadership in the Democrats because she's a damn fighter and made this possible. Yeah, overall tbh I consider the race to be a step above a failure, especially if they dont actually manage to get that 50/50 Senate. The damage to the house was shameful, and given there were 0 Progressives that lost their races it says a lot about the failure of the DNC strategy of pushing for Republican votes (I still GAG at Amy McGrath the PRO TRUMP DEMOCRAT, nauseating...) They need to learn from Abrams, and Tlaib, they're able to get that groundswell going and thats going to be the path forward imo, peeling off stray Republicans is just not a winning strategy going forward. Also, unrelated, I do wonder how much Covid cost Trump, ignoring the political aspect, I literally wonder if the number of people who died would have made this election closer for Trump should they have survived and gotten to vote for him... | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10579 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/CP9ARzy.png) This is the change of vote map from 2020 compared to 2016. I think as we look, rural and cities most definitely are shifting into polar opposites, but this isn't necessarily the case in every state. Colorado had a lot of rurals move blue, same with Michigan and Wisconsin that allowed them to land into the Biden column. Same with the surrounding suburbs of the large Texas cities, and even PA we see some rural counties with some blue arrows. I think the map tells us a compelling picture of the future of our democracy and the electorate: a large battle between the rural counties, and the suburbs+urban cities. This brings me to the point of the analysis: anticipating the future of the electorate in Presidential elections. Anything can change in the next 4 years, but here is how I view the potential battle ground map of 2024: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/g64glQN.png) Of course, with Trump out of office, Republican strategies must change and change dramatically. No longer will Republicans be picking if they want to be associated with Trump or not. But the ideas of Trump, things like Qanon, immigration, healthcare, will still be a choice for many Republicans. Overall, I believe that states like New Hampshire and Virginia have moved solidly into reliable blue states, while states like Ohio and Iowa have moved into reliable red states. Arizona, Georgia, and Texas, while definitely outliers for this election, will be more heavily contested. I still believe that all are lean red states, but if Dems can run a really strong ticket/good campaigning strategies, Republicans must defend these states rather than ignore them and focus on the normal battle grounds of the "blue wall" and Florida. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/XoWbZO7.png) | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Practically speaking 50 + 1 isn't enough for bigger, more controversial changes like adding justices or getting rid of the filibuster. You'll usually end up with a few senators getting cold feet (usually Manchin or Sinema). Getting 50 + 1 would be important for Biden's agenda, but wouldn't really mean anything more progressive or controversial getting through. 50 is enough to reform the filibuster rather than a complete nuke, which could resolve the worst abuses. Even McCain pointed out that the 2018 change made it inevitable. It's definitely not enough for changing the courts or the green new deal, though. So uh, China, hope you have a better plan for climate change than the US (I suspect they do, if only because it'd be hard to do worse). On November 07 2020 03:24 FlaShFTW wrote: + Show Spoiler + This is the change of vote map from 2020 compared to 2016. I think as we look, rural and cities most definitely are shifting into polar opposites, but this isn't necessarily the case in every state. Colorado had a lot of rurals move blue, same with Michigan and Wisconsin that allowed them to land into the Biden column. Same with the surrounding suburbs of the large Texas cities, and even PA we see some rural counties with some blue arrows. I think the map tells us a compelling picture of the future of our democracy and the electorate: a large battle between the rural counties, and the suburbs+urban cities. This brings me to the point of the analysis: anticipating the future of the electorate in Presidential elections. Anything can change in the next 4 years, but here is how I view the potential battle ground map of 2024: + Show Spoiler + Of course, with Trump out of office, Republican strategies must change and change dramatically. No longer will Republicans be picking if they want to be associated with Trump or not. But the ideas of Trump, things like Qanon, immigration, healthcare, will still be a choice for many Republicans. Overall, I believe that states like New Hampshire and Virginia have moved solidly into reliable blue states, while states like Ohio and Iowa have moved into reliable red states. Arizona, Georgia, and Texas, while definitely outliers for this election, will be more heavily contested. I still believe that all are lean red states, but if Dems can run a really strong ticket/good campaigning strategies, Republicans must defend these states rather than ignore them and focus on the normal battle grounds of the "blue wall" and Florida. + Show Spoiler + Florida should definitely be red, imo | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10579 Posts
On November 07 2020 03:24 Nevuk wrote: 50 is enough to reform the filibuster rather than a complete nuke, which could resolve the worst abuses. Even McCain pointed out that the 2018 change made it inevitable. It's definitely not enough for changing the courts or the green new deal, though. So uh, China, hope you have a better plan for climate change than the US (I suspect they do, if only because it'd be hard to do worse). Florida should definitely be red, imo I think Florida is always a weird state, I don't want to give it a lean red bias just yet, Trump did manage to rile up those older and Cuban voters. We'll have to see if Republican stay on that strategy, or will they change with the changing of the guard for top of the ticket republicans? That's what big question. | ||
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