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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
November 04 2020 00:05 GMT
#401
On November 04 2020 09:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:01 farvacola wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:00 The_Templar wrote:
On November 04 2020 08:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I really want to see Texas go blue just so we can see PG's reaction.

I have a gut feeling that Texas goes blue but Florida goes red.

Same here, the Cuban community being the difference maker


If that's the difference maker, a lot of cubans I know are for trump.

Yeah, those that I know are the same, I think that's what keeps Florida for Trump in the end.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
November 04 2020 00:06 GMT
#402
On November 04 2020 09:04 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.


It's normal.

It's based on which vote totals have been reported (their demographics, which areas are left to tally still, etc.).

There's an actual method to it, but I'm not that good at explaining it.


Is astrology involved?
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
November 04 2020 00:06 GMT
#403
On November 04 2020 09:04 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.


It's normal.

It's based on which vote totals have been reported (their demographics, which areas are left to tally still, etc.).

There's an actual method to it, but I'm not that good at explaining it.


So, just for me to understand - with, lets say, 16 out of 100 votes counted, there's no way that the outcome could change?

I honestly seem to be missing something essential here (very possible), but for some random foreigner who's following the election, that seems awfully weird.
On track to MA1950A.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 00:08:05
November 04 2020 00:06 GMT
#404
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.

It's normal. US news institutions really are a bit unprofessional in calling them early, but basically if polls show a massive lead in a race and election results are matching it, they'll call it based on a 98% confidence level or something like that.

The news networks calling them don't really matter anyways, the secretary of state has to affirm the results, but that happens days or weeks later so there is a drive to get it earlier.

On November 04 2020 09:04 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Hmm, I've heard Indiana being called immediately for Trump is a bad sign for Biden. It would mean he didn't do as well in the suburbs and rural areas as thought.

Governor's race was called, not presidential one
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
November 04 2020 00:07 GMT
#405
Have... have yall never watched a single election coverage night before? If anything, the fact that Indiana only just now got called is great. Trump had Indiana called instantly in 2016.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 04 2020 00:08 GMT
#406
On November 04 2020 09:06 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.

It's normal. US news institutions really are a bit unprofessional in calling them early, but basically if polls show a massive lead in a race and election results are matching it, they'll call it based on a 98% confidence level or something like that.

The news networks calling them don't really matter anyways, the secretary of state has to affirm the results, but that happens days or weeks later so there is a drive to get it earlier.


The method by which states are called by news organizations is actually pretty robust.

538 did an analysis on how it's done, and several other news outlets have as well.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46517 Posts
November 04 2020 00:08 GMT
#407
On November 04 2020 09:04 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.


It's normal.

It's based on which vote totals have been reported (their demographics, which areas are left to tally still, etc.).

There's an actual method to it, but I'm not that good at explaining it.


It's basically that. Some parts of a state are so obviously going to be tilting towards one candidate, that if they manage to persist through the swing counties/cities, they're basically guaranteed the win. In the same way that we really don't need to see California or any other deep blue/red states (we really just care about the swing/leaning states), the same can be said on a micro-level within a single state. In many cases, a swing state can be decided by a few counties, rather than needing to see the entire voting map of the state, just like how the general election can be decided by a few states, rather than needing to see the entire voting map of the country.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
November 04 2020 00:08 GMT
#408
On November 04 2020 09:06 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.

It's normal. US news institutions really are a bit unprofessional in calling them early, but basically if polls show a massive lead in a race and election results are matching it, they'll call it based on a 98% confidence level or something like that.



Well 54 to 46 with 16% counted doesn't seem like an insurmountable lead to me. According to the politico map anyway.

Just.. weird, but i guess, if it's normal, who am i to say that.

On track to MA1950A.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 04 2020 00:08 GMT
#409
On November 04 2020 09:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
Have... have yall never watched a single election coverage night before? If anything, the fact that Indiana only just now got called is great. Trump had Indiana called instantly in 2016.

I'm surprised Virginia hasn't been called for Biden yet.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 04 2020 00:09 GMT
#410
On November 04 2020 09:05 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 farvacola wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:00 The_Templar wrote:
On November 04 2020 08:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I really want to see Texas go blue just so we can see PG's reaction.

I have a gut feeling that Texas goes blue but Florida goes red.

Same here, the Cuban community being the difference maker


If that's the difference maker, a lot of cubans I know are for trump.

Yeah, those that I know are the same, I think that's what keeps Florida for Trump in the end.



It's quite sad that those Cubans who never took time to learn their actual history are doomed to repeating it. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if Trump tries to sell South FL to Cuba lol if he wins reelection.
Life?
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-04 00:10:20
November 04 2020 00:10 GMT
#411
On November 04 2020 09:08 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:06 Nevuk wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.

It's normal. US news institutions really are a bit unprofessional in calling them early, but basically if polls show a massive lead in a race and election results are matching it, they'll call it based on a 98% confidence level or something like that.



Well 54 to 46 with 16% counted doesn't seem like an insurmountable lead to me. According to the politico map anyway.

Just.. weird, but i guess, if it's normal, who am i to say that.



If Biden is down 54-46 after counting urban Kentucky areas, then it's easy to call the race because rural areas heavily favor Trump.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 04 2020 00:10 GMT
#412
On November 04 2020 09:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:05 farvacola wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 farvacola wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:00 The_Templar wrote:
On November 04 2020 08:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I really want to see Texas go blue just so we can see PG's reaction.

I have a gut feeling that Texas goes blue but Florida goes red.

Same here, the Cuban community being the difference maker


If that's the difference maker, a lot of cubans I know are for trump.

Yeah, those that I know are the same, I think that's what keeps Florida for Trump in the end.



It's quite sad that those Cubans who never took time to learn their actual history are doomed to repeating it. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if Trump tries to sell South FL to Cuba lol if he wins reelection.

IDK, I think it might be more likely that he tries to buy Cuba.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
November 04 2020 00:10 GMT
#413
On November 04 2020 09:08 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
Have... have yall never watched a single election coverage night before? If anything, the fact that Indiana only just now got called is great. Trump had Indiana called instantly in 2016.

I'm surprised Virginia hasn't been called for Biden yet.

Apparently Fox called Virginia for Biden? That would be a good sign for Biden because Clinton got Virginia called for her very late.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 04 2020 00:10 GMT
#414
On November 04 2020 09:10 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:08 The_Templar wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
Have... have yall never watched a single election coverage night before? If anything, the fact that Indiana only just now got called is great. Trump had Indiana called instantly in 2016.

I'm surprised Virginia hasn't been called for Biden yet.

Apparently Fox called Virginia for Biden? That would be a good sign for Biden because Clinton got Virginia called for her very late.

Maybe? I've only been checking the NYT graphic.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 04 2020 00:10 GMT
#415
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 04 2020 00:11 GMT
#416
I wouldn't take too much stock in the time it takes for states to be called.

Apparently a lot of networks are doing it differently for this election.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
November 04 2020 00:11 GMT
#417
I understand that the outcome in VT is pretty clear, but this projection made me lol:
[image loading]

NYT called VT for Biden with 0 votes reported at 7pm EST. If you are going to call the winner with 0 votes reported, you may as well call the state 2 months before elections ^^
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 04 2020 00:11 GMT
#418
On November 04 2020 09:08 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2020 09:06 Nevuk wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:03 m4ini wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 04 2020 09:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
NYT just called Kentucky for Trump and Indiana's governor race for the GOP incumbent.


With 12% reporting in? I don't get it.


I got surprised by that too.

16% counted and called? That's.. weird. Maybe it's normal or something, but to me as a non-american, that's weird.

It's normal. US news institutions really are a bit unprofessional in calling them early, but basically if polls show a massive lead in a race and election results are matching it, they'll call it based on a 98% confidence level or something like that.



Well 54 to 46 with 16% counted doesn't seem like an insurmountable lead to me. According to the politico map anyway.

Just.. weird, but i guess, if it's normal, who am i to say that.



Indiana has a stupid lead supposedly, bigger than Kentucky, and it hasn't been called.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 04 2020 00:11 GMT
#419
Fox has always been less cautious than the other outlets. NYT and ABC are both planning on being very cautious to call results, per their live blogs.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 04 2020 00:12 GMT
#420
Doesn't seem that cautious at all at the moment.
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