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Wow, that actually surprises me. Just going about my daily life in my area I would have easily put it at less than 5% of people. Admittedly I'm not in California or New York, but I am in a liberal leaning city (Charlotte).
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Working from home was a sensible, life-improving change for many people that was ‘not viable’ but hey was actually viable.
Of all the changes Covid brought I’m alright if that one sticks around
As per COVID in my locale, purely anecdotally seems a lot more are coming down with it recently.
There’s a considerably more laissez faire attitude in general, which I think is to be expected to some degree. It’s not particularly helped when those who do wish to take it seriously don’t get a mandated isolation period anymore.
It’s either be responsible and take a hit on your wages or come in and potentially spread it about.
And especially with this cost of living crisis people outright can’t afford that.
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I think every person I know first hand, that had Covid, in the last like 3 months were vaxxed and boostered; including me. So I don't know if we can really say "oh, they are all vaxxed, so it is fine"... even for "seriousness" of Covid. I know of everything from a little fever and headache for a day (me...) to 3 days in the hospital. (she is fine; just saw her on Monday, dancing away). Most stay at home and have some coughs for a week. There must be other factors!
But about seriousness:
On June 30 2022 18:53 BlackJack wrote: I don’t think I’ve seen anyone get intubated with COVID since omicron became the dominant strain. It’s like a whole different disease. A lot of sources say 2/3rds of COVID hospital admissions are there for another problem and they just happen to have COVID. I honestly think it’s even higher than that. Don't know other reasons. But here in Germany we have the DIVI! And they have quite accurate numbers of Covid patients in hospitals: > https://www.intensivregister.de/#/aktuelle-lage/laendertabelle One thing they also show is how many of those have to be ventilated. And during the "dark times", if I looked there the ventilated% was always >50-60%! Now - look - it is about 30%! That is much lower!
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On July 01 2022 00:27 Geisterkarle wrote:I think every person I know first hand, that had Covid, in the last like 3 months were vaxxed and boostered; including me. So I don't know if we can really say "oh, they are all vaxxed, so it is fine"... even for "seriousness" of Covid. I know of everything from a little fever and headache for a day (me...) to 3 days in the hospital. (she is fine; just saw her on Monday, dancing away). Most stay at home and have some coughs for a week. There must be other factors! But about seriousness: Show nested quote +On June 30 2022 18:53 BlackJack wrote: I don’t think I’ve seen anyone get intubated with COVID since omicron became the dominant strain. It’s like a whole different disease. A lot of sources say 2/3rds of COVID hospital admissions are there for another problem and they just happen to have COVID. I honestly think it’s even higher than that. Don't know other reasons. But here in Germany we have the DIVI! And they have quite accurate numbers of Covid patients in hospitals: > https://www.intensivregister.de/#/aktuelle-lage/laendertabelleOne thing they also show is how many of those have to be ventilated. And during the "dark times", if I looked there the ventilated% was always >50-60%! Now - look - it is about 30%! That is much lower!
Those numbers don’t even make sense to me. The CDC/Kaiser study from earlier this year tracked 52,000+ patients with omicron. Of those 52k, 225 were admitted to the hospital. Of those 225 not a single one required ventilation. Not sure how you’re anywhere near 30% requiring ventilation.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.11.22269045v1
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On June 30 2022 05:54 Lmui wrote: Well I've been to a wedding, probably 90% of my friends have caught covid despite 3x boosters. Some (including me) have had rough times with the recovery, with some of the symptoms including fatigue, and a cough taking weeks to a month+ to subside. It's definitely still something to worry about, even as a group of ~30 year olds. We're hoping that it'll be quicker to tune boosters for variants, since we'll pretty much all grab it as soon as it's available this fall. Covid is not a disease than any of us are eager to catch again.
Basically though, we're all back to normal, but very cautious about proactively telling people if we're sick and bailing on activities if we're sick. I can definitely relate to you. My wife and I worked in the hospital through the entire pandemic, never got it due to diligent PPE use. We both went to a wedding last week and came back with covid. Overall illness is mild but I do hate the cough.
I'm pretty much treating it like the flu now that hospital census is ok in my region and I'm vaccinated.
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Most of the people I know who caught COVID the earliest (since almost everyone I know has caught it) are those who travel and socialise the most, even got jabbed the earliest and most times and religiously abide to SOPs (mask, social-distancing, etc). The exceptional few who have not caught COVID are elderly relatives who continue to isolate at home in fear of the virus and only really go out for essentials and family celebrations (birthdays, anniversary). Oh, and they happen to be rather vaccine-sceptic at first and were slowest to get jabbed.
You can disregard that as anecdotal or question my bona fide, whatever, not going to respond to such stuff anymore (never quite did anyway).
That's my experience, and the experiences of my close friends. It is what it is. Your mileage might vary where you are, but I'm just stating as a fact of where I am.
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Head of WHO Europe calls for ‘urgent action’ to stop the spread as Monkeypox cases in Europe triple since June 15.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/01/who-says-monkeypox-cases-triple-in-europe-in-two-weeks-urgent-action-needed-to-contain-spread.html
The World Health Organization on Friday warned that urgent action is needed to contain the spread of monkeypox in Europe, as cases have tripled over the past two weeks.
Henri Kluge, the head of WHO Europe, called on governments to ramp efforts to prevent monkeypox from establishing itself on the continent, warning that time is of the essence.
“Urgent and coordinated action is imperative if we are to turn a corner in the race to reverse the ongoing spread of this disease,” Kluge said.
Future restrictions are more likely to come from the Monkeypox outbreak than covid.Hopefully they aren’t too restrictive, the economy and supply chains are already in bad shape.
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On July 02 2022 18:32 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Head of WHO Europe calls for ‘urgent action’ to stop the spread as Monkeypox cases in Europe triple since June 15. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/01/who-says-monkeypox-cases-triple-in-europe-in-two-weeks-urgent-action-needed-to-contain-spread.htmlShow nested quote + The World Health Organization on Friday warned that urgent action is needed to contain the spread of monkeypox in Europe, as cases have tripled over the past two weeks.
Henri Kluge, the head of WHO Europe, called on governments to ramp efforts to prevent monkeypox from establishing itself on the continent, warning that time is of the essence.
“Urgent and coordinated action is imperative if we are to turn a corner in the race to reverse the ongoing spread of this disease,” Kluge said.
Future restrictions are more likely to come from the Monkeypox outbreak than covid.Hopefully they aren’t too restrictive, the economy and supply chains are already in bad shape.
Yes lets hope people learned from covid and actually take the voluntary measures seriously.
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no one cares here. no masks since march; every now and then(some months apart) people/coworkers cough about, one day someone, after 3-4 days other ones, and so on, until it dies out. everything is treated as a regular flu.
there's no way they(gov.) can pull what they pulled with covid, with monkeypox. people will flipthefuckout; with the inflation and the recession and the gas prices and the food prices etcetcetc ... no way. you(officials) telling me to stay put and quarantine ... get the fuck out. i need to go out and swindle goods, make money, feed my peers.
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Shouldn’t have surprised anyone who reads vaccine anecdotes from women but a new study has confirmed period irregularities in 42% of women who took the jabs.
Most returned to normal but hopefully their cycle wasn’t further affected if they were planning on taking a booster every three months.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/study-shows-that-covid19-jabs-affect-menstrual-cycles/news-story/fca7cc75b3904e7e3046918103768d09
Around 42 percent of those who had regular menstrual cycles had bled more heavily than usual after they were vaccinated, while 44 percent reported no change after being vaccinated. A much smaller proportion of people experienced lighter periods.
• Participants who typically do not menstruate because they are menopausal or take reversible contraceptives or gender affirming hormones also experienced breakthrough bleeding.
• Those who bled heavier than usual after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine were likely to be older, identify as Latino or Hispanic, or have pre-existing conditions such as endometriosis.
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Oh wow so we're taking boosters every 3 months now? I was under the impression we we'regoing to be getting them every 6 months before. I bet getting covid itself also disrupts your cyle, sometimes permanently.
There have only been 3 shots available to gen pop. The only people that have been able to get a 4th have been people too old to have children anymore.
Ba5 looks like it's going to be a really bad one for the unvaccinated. I doubt the vaccinated have the sympathy for them anymore to try and protect them.
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I find it uplifting that this research is taking place. Usually women's issues are swept under the rug. They also state in the paper that this is not representative of overall population:
Data used in these analyses are unable to represent population prevalence of postvaccine menstrual changes Source
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I feel like its sad when the panel on WHO seem to have given up on caution facing uncertainty in favor of ??? capitalism?
I don't understand, we are still having lived experiences with COVID
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I do not think its capitalism, its democracy. There is a huge part of the population that think COVID, which killed millions, was a conspiracy or massive over reaction. Something is going to have to be worse than cpvid, which I hope never happens.
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On July 24 2022 23:40 BlueBird. wrote: I feel like its sad when the panel on WHO seem to have given up on caution facing uncertainty in favor of ??? capitalism?
I don't understand, we are still having lived experiences with COVID 16,000 cases, how many deaths? Zero outside Africa? Someone has to come clean because we were told by the news that Monkeypox had a death rate of 1-3%.Clearly that is not the case, fake news.
Should have stuck with the WHO boards decision.If people actually start dying from it then reconsider.
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On July 25 2022 07:15 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2022 23:40 BlueBird. wrote: I feel like its sad when the panel on WHO seem to have given up on caution facing uncertainty in favor of ??? capitalism?
I don't understand, we are still having lived experiences with COVID 16,000 cases, how many deaths? Zero outside Africa? Someone has to come clean because we were told by the news that Monkeypox had a death rate of 1-3%.Clearly that is not the case, fake news. Should have stuck with the WHO boards decision.If people actually start dying from it then reconsider. Does only dying matter? There are lots of awful things I can think of that do not kill people. And if you care about the money side of things that can be really expensive.
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WHO board voted 9-6 against declaring it an emergency, would love to see the minutes/reasoning as to why they voted against it.
Every indication points to it being a milder variant than what has been seen prior.
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Im not saying it should or should not, ive done almost no research on it. Im jist saying that looking at only death rate is a bad choice. Those 15 people are infinitly more qualified then me and Ill trust their judgement.
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