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On March 12 2020 01:35 Bonyth wrote:
How are shops looking in the infected countries? Food, water, toilet paper, basic stuff. My mum is freaking out, and I want to have another point of view from other more infected statistically countries.
Germany. Haven't seen any shortage of anything but hand sanitizer myself. Or masks but the lack of both doesn't really phase me much.
Supermarkets report higher turnover regarding toilet paper but it wasn't sold out anywhere I've been to.
Our health minister criticised people posting empty shelves on social media because assuredly these were restocked shortly afterwards. And imo that's a fair criticism for these stupid clickbait photos.
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Supermarkets in France haven't seen any kind of shortages that I know of.
Hospitals are obviously running out of masks, lots are stolen.
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3 cases in Minnesota and they're already talking about cancelling classes, sports, etc.
Guess my state's government isnt fucking around.
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Germany. i work in social care for a major german city. Today we have new safety precautions that basically are intended to keep our contact with customers (receivers of social help, that is), to a minimum. It sucks coz it makes work complicated, but i guess its good my employee cares about my health.
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On March 12 2020 02:49 Cele wrote:
Germany. i work in social care for a major german city. Today we have new safety precautions that basically are intended to keep our contact with customers (receivers of social help, that is), to a minimum. It sucks coz it makes work complicated, but i guess its good my employee cares about my health.
Think the opposite direction as well. The people that require social help are more likely to be in risk groups.
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I heard we have our first case here in Spotsylvania county in Virginia, so that should be something.
My friend in Memphis also told me a week ago the hospital he lives behind has someone with corona virus now.
Sure is gettin’ around
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On March 11 2020 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2020 20:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
All this was instituted in the past 24-48 hours, when the government found out that tens of thousands people are returning (have returned) from Italy, most of them went unchecked (lied about their stay, avoided checkpoints etc).
But why? I can somewhat understand US Citizens because their health care is shit and everyone knows it. Why lie? Why not get tested? Don't people wanna know? I don't get it
The people in mandatory self-isolation aren't being tested unless they develop serious symptoms.
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On March 12 2020 01:48 VHbb wrote:
I'm from Milan, Italy. I currently live in France.
On the other side, here in France people are *not* worried. I have many friends from the region, even doctors (don't know why I have many doctor friends, I'm not in the field...) who keep going to concerts / restaurants / taking public transports.. the general feeling is that if possible one should find a way to avoid the very light restrictions imposed by the french government. E.g., since events with more then 1000 people are banned, they organize events with *just* 1000 people.
I sincerely hope that this will hit France lighter than Italy, but at this point it seems impossible. We (in France) are simply ~ 10 days behind, nothing else.
I speak with people here and they tell me I'm just exaggerating. Then I talk to my family and I hear that it's worse and worse. The disconnect between the two perceptions is very troubling.
I don't really know what I can do other than keep talking with people here, and take my own personal measures to reduce / avoid contacts, but the feeling is a bit frustrating and disheartening ...
This sounds very strange to me. Portugal has 59 cases and yet everyone is freaking out. Or at least that's my perception, influenced by the fact that directly affected by it because my company is directly affected by it (education sector). Right now we're making projections until October and seeing how long we can possibly survive and how.
Meanwhile I just learned that my landlord is not renewing the contract so I'm going to be out in two months, rents in Lisbon are insane and at this point my livelihood is at stake. It'd be quite ironical to be left homeless at a time of widespread home quarantines. At this point it's quite hard to empathise with those not taking the virus seriously.
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My job probably just started canceling meetings, non-essential travel and conferences.
Not because of risk for infection (at least officially) but rather because they want to free up resource. I'm in an umbrella organisation that contains all government care so it kind of makes sense but at the same time it doesn't because we can't really help with this.
So probably my mini conference is canceled next week but we will see.
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As a non-savvy investor I'm tempted to liquidate everything I own and sit on cash. I just went to Europe with my wife and the paranoia was progressively building, I'm glad I managed to return home without issue. But the 3 weeks in Europe ended costing less than what I "lost" from the markets getting crushed. Pretty shit circumstances to be looking for a job too.
2020 sucks so fucking hard and we're not even a fourth of the way into it.
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On March 12 2020 03:31 Djzapz wrote:
As a non-savvy investor I'm tempted to liquidate everything I own and sit on cash. I just went to Europe with my wife and the paranoia was progressively building, I'm glad I managed to return home without issue. But the 3 weeks in Europe ended costing less than what I "lost" from the markets getting crushed. Pretty shit circumstances to be looking for a job too.
2020 sucks so fucking hard and we're not even a fourth of the way into it.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket. If deflation is the nail, you can guess what the hammer is going to be.
I'm ironically less afraid now than before shit started to officially get serious. Trying to enjoy going out as much as I can before a lockdown comes. Numbers of recoveries also give some hope, but I seriously hope this thing doesn't persist in some blood cells.
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On March 12 2020 03:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2020 03:31 Djzapz wrote:
As a non-savvy investor I'm tempted to liquidate everything I own and sit on cash. I just went to Europe with my wife and the paranoia was progressively building, I'm glad I managed to return home without issue. But the 3 weeks in Europe ended costing less than what I "lost" from the markets getting crushed. Pretty shit circumstances to be looking for a job too.
2020 sucks so fucking hard and we're not even a fourth of the way into it. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. If deflation is the nail, you can guess what the hammer is going to be. I'm ironically less afraid now than before shit started to officially get serious. Trying to enjoy going out as much as I can before a lockdown comes. Numbers of recoveries also give some hope, but I seriously hope this thing doesn't persist in some blood cells.
I'm very diversified but it's still all coming down together. Visited Vienna btw, cool place 
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Golden State Warriors and San Jose Sharks will play their upcoming games with no fans in attendance. Both cities are within a one hour drive of each other on the west coast of California.
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WHO: Global Pandemic
My job: You can work from home if you absolutely insist, but keep in mind we don't want you to.
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Denmark will essentially close down now - at least for 14 days until further notice.
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Norway... just a mess now sadly :-( Daily we now have massive increase in positive tests. Getting to the top of the list of infected pr 100.000 capita soon T_T Our government and healthcare officials are slowly (and I mean reaaaally slowly) starting to realize that what is happening now is going to affect everyone. Truly so many here are in tears over the slow ass response. Especially the Norwegian Directorate of Health. Other norwegians out here, you know what I'm talking about.
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On March 12 2020 03:19 warding wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2020 01:48 VHbb wrote:
I'm from Milan, Italy. I currently live in France.
On the other side, here in France people are *not* worried. I have many friends from the region, even doctors (don't know why I have many doctor friends, I'm not in the field...) who keep going to concerts / restaurants / taking public transports.. the general feeling is that if possible one should find a way to avoid the very light restrictions imposed by the french government. E.g., since events with more then 1000 people are banned, they organize events with *just* 1000 people.
I sincerely hope that this will hit France lighter than Italy, but at this point it seems impossible. We (in France) are simply ~ 10 days behind, nothing else.
I speak with people here and they tell me I'm just exaggerating. Then I talk to my family and I hear that it's worse and worse. The disconnect between the two perceptions is very troubling.
I don't really know what I can do other than keep talking with people here, and take my own personal measures to reduce / avoid contacts, but the feeling is a bit frustrating and disheartening ...
This sounds very strange to me. Portugal has 59 cases and yet everyone is freaking out. Or at least that's my perception, influenced by the fact that directly affected by it because my company is directly affected by it (education sector). Right now we're making projections until October and seeing how long we can possibly survive and how. Meanwhile I just learned that my landlord is not renewing the contract so I'm going to be out in two months, rents in Lisbon are insane and at this point my livelihood is at stake. It'd be quite ironical to be left homeless at a time of widespread home quarantines. At this point it's quite hard to empathise with those not taking the virus seriously.
In Bulgaria we only have 4 confirmed cases and sadly as of today 1 death in the capital Sofia. I'm a Pharmacist and I work in a Pharmacy store in Sofia and things were really panicy even before there were any confirmed cases. Now with the news spread of 4 cases and 1 person dying... We have a lot more work, but the majority of the work is because of flu epidemic and pensions days... Coronavirus only added more work, with majority of people coming to ask for face masks, hand sanitizers and alcohol which we have a great shortage of. The scary thing is that people oversupply their medications if we allow it and get really angry if we limit the amount of drugs they can buy, because there isn't enough for everyone...
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Whilst egoistical behaviour is not unexpected, I'd like to hear any stories that support the notion of common good, if anyone comes across some or even is part of them.
Whereas I would classify everyone working in public care (from nurse to pharmacy workers) as such.
I mean, you could probably make a fortune in buying the meds yourself and selling them off on eBay for thrice as much.
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