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Any and all updates regarding the COVID-19 will need a source provided. Please do your part in helping us to keep this thread maintainable and under control.

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TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
March 11 2020 22:14 GMT
#401
Denmark will essentially close down now - at least for 14 days until further notice.


Your leaders are wise ^^
“Approved attributes and their relation to face make every man his own jailer; this is a fundamental social constraint even though each man may like his cell.” -Goffman
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1200 Posts
March 11 2020 22:38 GMT
#402
Our local walmart ran out of toilet paper. I'm not really sure if it's connected to the corona virus but missouri is a less then average place in many ways. Hopefully someone at my company sends out some kind of leaflet letter of what we plan on doing at our boat factory that hosts over 5000 employess on a work day.
Flash should fear Sacsri
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
March 11 2020 22:56 GMT
#403
On March 12 2020 05:12 Ghostcom wrote:
Denmark will essentially close down now - at least for 14 days until further notice.



These reactions from cities and states are absolutely bananas. unless things are much much worse than they are telling us. do these places plan to temporarily shut down every time there is a flare up? they cant expect this to be a one time deal with the way the disease is spreading I just dont understand the logic here.
I am, therefore I pee
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 23:03:58
March 11 2020 23:02 GMT
#404
I mean, it is already too late. It is a pandemic, it is spreading with no vaccine. There will be deaths. Lots of them. Is it worth it to destroy the livelihood of so many to shut down a country 14 days and then what ? Hope no one is going to bring it back ? Get a 3-week reprieve before it starts again ?

I may be nihilistic, but we can just slow down the spread to keep the burden a bit lower on health care, while destroying everything else. I don't believe it's worth it.

on a personal note : 4-week trip to Thailand is maintained for now, until Thailand refuses us. We would be fine with a 14-day quarantine on arrival, as we have a house ready near my in-laws, but at the latest news they require a health certificate from a doctor, that you have been followed for 14-days and you have been tested negatively less than 2 days before arrival.

1- we are spending 3 days in Oman first, so it's impossible
2- there is no way to get tested when you are in good health since the amount of tests are currently limited.
These requirements are nearly impossible to satisfy. (France isn't yet on the list of diseased countries but it's only a matter of time as we are 10 days behind italy. We are supposed to leave in 14 days...)





For the stock market : even if it's "diversified", as long as everything is on the stock market, it's a bad choice. Get some savings accounts, some stocks, some real estate. That is diversifying.
NoiR
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 11 2020 23:15 GMT
#405
The main point of that kind of action is to reduce the burden on the hospitals. Simple logic, they can handle more loads over a longer period of time. The point is to prevent deaths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 23:50:43
March 11 2020 23:50 GMT
#406
On March 12 2020 08:02 Nouar wrote:
For the stock market : even if it's "diversified", as long as everything is on the stock market, it's a bad choice. Get some savings accounts, some stocks, some real estate. That is diversifying.

Honestly atm I'm roughly 50-ish% savings account (pulled most of my money back about a month ago) 2-3% crypto and 45% stock market. IDK how to own real estate short of buying property and I'm don't have that kind of money.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 23:55:22
March 11 2020 23:53 GMT
#407
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 23:59:45
March 11 2020 23:54 GMT
#408
On March 12 2020 07:56 Trainrunnef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2020 05:12 Ghostcom wrote:
Denmark will essentially close down now - at least for 14 days until further notice.



These reactions from cities and states are absolutely bananas. unless things are much much worse than they are telling us. do these places plan to temporarily shut down every time there is a flare up? they cant expect this to be a one time deal with the way the disease is spreading I just dont understand the logic here.

If you wait for it to get real bad(eg. hospitals full), before implement full lockdown procedures, you'll be 1-2 weeks too late to stop the medical system from collapsing. Even if everybody else had no contact from that point onwards, at an R0 of 2.0, you'll be somewhere between 2-3x what hospitals can handle in terms of caseload(assuming some patients have recovered enough to be released) in a week or two.

That's when people start dying of survivable conditions, and it gets scary real fast because if the doctors have to decide between a 35 year old and a 65 year old, they're going to give the 35 year old a ventilator and the 65 year old is terminal.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
March 12 2020 00:18 GMT
#409
On March 12 2020 07:56 Trainrunnef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2020 05:12 Ghostcom wrote:
Denmark will essentially close down now - at least for 14 days until further notice.



These reactions from cities and states are absolutely bananas. unless things are much much worse than they are telling us. do these places plan to temporarily shut down every time there is a flare up? they cant expect this to be a one time deal with the way the disease is spreading I just dont understand the logic here.


What does “bananas" mean?Does it mean joke?
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 12 2020 00:22 GMT
#410
On March 12 2020 09:18 FBTsingLoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2020 07:56 Trainrunnef wrote:
On March 12 2020 05:12 Ghostcom wrote:
Denmark will essentially close down now - at least for 14 days until further notice.



These reactions from cities and states are absolutely bananas. unless things are much much worse than they are telling us. do these places plan to temporarily shut down every time there is a flare up? they cant expect this to be a one time deal with the way the disease is spreading I just dont understand the logic here.


What does “bananas" mean?Does it mean joke?

It means crazy/unreasonable
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
March 12 2020 00:39 GMT
#411
Do we have any reason to think Denmark is worse than USA? What if we have just as many, but not tested?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 12 2020 00:54 GMT
#412
On March 12 2020 08:50 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2020 08:02 Nouar wrote:
For the stock market : even if it's "diversified", as long as everything is on the stock market, it's a bad choice. Get some savings accounts, some stocks, some real estate. That is diversifying.

Honestly atm I'm roughly 50-ish% savings account (pulled most of my money back about a month ago) 2-3% crypto and 45% stock market. IDK how to own real estate short of buying property and I'm don't have that kind of money.

Real estate ETF's? VNQ is a solid investment. DRN is a ballsy one.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 12 2020 00:55 GMT
#413
On March 12 2020 09:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2020 08:50 Djzapz wrote:
On March 12 2020 08:02 Nouar wrote:
For the stock market : even if it's "diversified", as long as everything is on the stock market, it's a bad choice. Get some savings accounts, some stocks, some real estate. That is diversifying.

Honestly atm I'm roughly 50-ish% savings account (pulled most of my money back about a month ago) 2-3% crypto and 45% stock market. IDK how to own real estate short of buying property and I'm don't have that kind of money.

Real estate ETF's? VNQ is a solid investment. DRN is a ballsy one.

Will look into it. Like I said I'm a complete layman when it comes to that.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 12 2020 00:57 GMT
#414
On March 12 2020 09:55 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2020 09:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 12 2020 08:50 Djzapz wrote:
On March 12 2020 08:02 Nouar wrote:
For the stock market : even if it's "diversified", as long as everything is on the stock market, it's a bad choice. Get some savings accounts, some stocks, some real estate. That is diversifying.

Honestly atm I'm roughly 50-ish% savings account (pulled most of my money back about a month ago) 2-3% crypto and 45% stock market. IDK how to own real estate short of buying property and I'm don't have that kind of money.

Real estate ETF's? VNQ is a solid investment. DRN is a ballsy one.

Will look into it. Like I said I'm a complete layman when it comes to that.

I'd recommend the former then.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 01:26:36
March 12 2020 01:21 GMT
#415
Trump just announced that all travel from Europe to the US is being suspended for a month, starting Friday at midnight

(Except for the UK. No real explanation on why).
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43035 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 01:28:00
March 12 2020 01:27 GMT
#416
After a month of insisting the flu wasn’t serious and was probably a Democrat hoax he condemns Europe for not taking decisive action sooner. What an absolute tool.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7282 Posts
March 12 2020 01:30 GMT
#417
On March 12 2020 10:27 KwarK wrote:
After a month of insisting the flu wasn’t serious and was probably a Democrat hoax he condemns Europe for not taking decisive action sooner. What an absolute tool.



Seriously what an asshole. Im not against the actions hes taking but his rambling and passing the blame off to other countries is infuriating.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 12 2020 01:52 GMT
#418
Is there like an endgame? Everything is getting cancelled. But I don't really understand when it would be able to be called 'safe' again. It seems impossible to contain or isolate all cases. So is the endgame that everyone has either resisted the infection or died from it? Is the endgame a vaccine that even in hopeful terms is more than a year away? Are we just going to not have any events or travel for the rest of the year?

All the talks are about a temporary cancellation but I don't really see why things would be better in a month. Or two months.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
March 12 2020 01:55 GMT
#419
On March 12 2020 10:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is there like an endgame? Everything is getting cancelled. But I don't really understand when it would be able to be called 'safe' again. It seems impossible to contain or isolate all cases. So is the endgame that everyone has either resisted the infection or died from it? Is the endgame a vaccine that even in hopeful terms is more than a year away? Are we just going to not have any events or travel for the rest of the year?

All the talks are about a temporary cancellation but I don't really see why things would be better in a month. Or two months.


Regardless of what 2 months from now looks like, we can say with confidence we need to shut it all down right now. Everything is a total shit show and this is the best we can do.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
March 12 2020 01:57 GMT
#420
On March 12 2020 10:27 KwarK wrote:
After a month of insisting the flu wasn’t serious and was probably a Democrat hoax he condemns Europe for not taking decisive action sooner. What an absolute tool.

Brazillian president Bolsonaro was saying it's just a flu a few hours ago, watch him flip now that the boss changed his mind
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
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