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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On June 24 2020 22:29 GreenHorizons wrote: People are driving me nuts with updates on deadlines for weddings that aren't going to happen, and even if they miraculously legally/logistically could, are going to be highly irresponsible anyway. I'm trying to be forgiving and understanding (since I'm in the wedding party for some of these) but maaaan it's getting a bit ridiculous at this point with venues dozens of weddings behind and stringing people along to keep their deposits and such. My friend ended up postponing her wedding ceremony by a whole year to next year. It was originally going to happen last week. Hopefully, everything will work out by then, but at the very least I can't see mass gatherings and events happening this year. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4434 Posts
On June 21 2020 18:42 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Here in Australia they just announced no international travel until next year now.2021! Pretty huge. Expected but main airline QANTAS just cut at least 6000 jobs due to the groundings and also announced it's A380 superjumbos will be moved to storage at the Mojave Desert until 2023. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/qantas-job-cuts-coronavirus-pandemic-covid-19-alan-joyce/12390802 Losses in the airline and tourism sector continue to mount, hope these people can survive the next few years without losing their home. Also new outbreak in Victoria which now accounts for 85% of new cases in the country, mostly related to large illegal religious gatherings. https://au.news.yahoo.com/military-deployed-to-victoria-as-source-of-biggest-virus-cluster-is-revealed-222853463.html | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27174 Posts
On June 24 2020 18:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: When you say that there are social distancing measures in place, at school, can you elaborate? How are classes structured? Very few students at a time, all spread out (so no group work)? Do all the students rotate in throughout the day, or do you see far fewer every day because there isn't enough time in a school day to see everyone you normally would, given these reduced class sizes? (I have no idea how our US schools are going to deal with these issues if/when they reopen in September, especially given that the students are ultimately interacting in the hallways and cafeterias anyway.) We went through a month with classes coming in on a rotational basis (twice a week) and larger classes being split. As of now, however, we are back to everyone at school everyday. Everyone has to wear a mask of face shield, there are lines demarcated on the floor for the washroom, and I am alcohol rubbing door handles and window frames. That being said, the kids hang off of each other all the time as 14 year old girls are apt to do. Teachers are tugging their masks down around their chin to get a break from the increasing heat. The sports classes have had no social distancing pretenses for a month. So it is a mixed bag. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On top of that the hospitality industry is also facing a problem where the turnout is not enough to be profitable, on top of that they feel that they also have to play police ocasionally simply because they will be shutdown if it is found out that the guests are breaking the rules, something that they are neither equipped nor willing to do. Lastly, most public transport will be up and running soon, masks are only mandatory on public transport (also the policing of this is also laughable, we don't have the resources). Overall masks here iirc were still a political move as our national health organizations said it was a political move not a science based one. Overall people are done with the lockdown and the rules, this is also true due to vast inconsistencies between rules and enforcing (protests were/are allowed, but outdoor large scale activities werent, planes could run just fine, but trains and touring busses could not), now all I can do is hope that the virus is not as bad. Because our hospitals and icu's are in a decent shape they feel like the threat is gone. So far we started reopening a while ago and nothing much has changed in our hospital intake or ICU capacity. | ||
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Slydie
1994 Posts
Spain is probably one of the most masked countries outside of Asia now, as the local government leaders made it political and decided it was very impornant. It should be worn anywhere in public where keeping a 2m distance can be difficult, and if in doubt, wear them. However, I don't think the police cares too much about it, and wearing those things while shopping is fine. Meanwhile in Norway, the supermarkets did everything except the facemasks (including plexiglass in the cashiers) and had amazing results, so I still think those things are grossly overrated, even after WHO changed their stance. https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks I understand that getting the covid numbers as low as possible is very important to try to salvage the tourist season, though. July and especially August are the most important months, and contribute a huge part to the economy. The fear among the population is still there, but it seems to get better. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11943 Posts
Honestly, the more one learns about industrial meat production, the more disgusting it is. I think we could do without any of it. It is horrific for the animals, it is horrific for the people working there (which is why they import people from eastern europe to do that job for a few months in shitty conditions for minimum wage), and it is horrifically unsanitary and basically a corona breeding ground. Also, it creates antibiotica resistant bacteria (which i was very sure would be the next major medicinal problem before corona happened). And eating lots of meat isn't good for you either. So we have a setup where we torture animals so that people can torture themselves and risk infection so that other people can ruin their health by eating too much meat. Edit: Sadly i only have a german source for this. https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/toennies-coronainfektionen-guetersloh-101.html | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On June 26 2020 06:35 Simberto wrote: Here, the meat packing plants seem to be super spreading centers. In the last week, we have had two outbreaks in completely independent meat packing plants, one of which infected more than a thousand people at once and lead to the whole area completely shutting down again. Honestly, the more one learns about industrial meat production, the more disgusting it is. I think we could do without any of it. It is horrific for the animals, it is horrific for the people working there (which is why they import people from eastern europe to do that job for a few months in shitty conditions for minimum wage), and it is horrifically unsanitary and basically a corona breeding ground. Also, it creates antibiotica resistant bacteria (which i was very sure would be the next major medicinal problem before corona happened). And eating lots of meat isn't good for you either. So we have a setup where we torture animals so that people can torture themselves and risk infection so that other people can ruin their health by eating too much meat. The microbial resistance is an issue of industrial scale animal production and independent from the modern slaughterhouse. Though of course the latter wouldnt be in existence without the former. Any animal rights activist or environmentalist has known about the appalling working conditions for years and years. +Microbial resistance too) The sudden outrage and incentive to change the system is very welcome. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11943 Posts
On June 26 2020 06:40 Artisreal wrote: The microbial resistance is an issue of industrial scale animal production and independent from the modern slaughterhouse. Though of course the latter wouldnt be in existence without the former. Any animal rights activist or environmentalist has known about the appalling working conditions for years and years. +Microbial resistance too) The sudden outrage and incentive to change the system is very welcome. I meant the whole system, not just the slaughterhouses. The slaughterhouses are in focus due to the corona problems, but there is just so much wrong with the whole process. But it seems to be basically impossible to convince people that they don't need the cheapest meat possible. (Or as much meat as they are eating, or honestly just meat at all) | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46247 Posts
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/06/nj-schools-will-reopen-with-masks-social-distancing-and-sweeping-new-rules-under-just-released-plan.html?fbclid=IwAR0Zecl_aObU6oaxnUQyjVECDcurif3aJyqXbhDx6BTBNutIHfGjYiUQpzI | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On June 27 2020 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: New Jersey just announced that schools will be reopening in the fall. Sigh. If anyone wants to make a quick buck, start betting on NJ spiking again by the end of September, unless a miracle happens. https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/06/nj-schools-will-reopen-with-masks-social-distancing-and-sweeping-new-rules-under-just-released-plan.html?fbclid=IwAR0Zecl_aObU6oaxnUQyjVECDcurif3aJyqXbhDx6BTBNutIHfGjYiUQpzI There has been a lot of mixed info on kids. For whatever reason they seem to not be good carriers, spreaders or symptomatic, which is ridiculously counterintuitive. Can't stop them from playing with each other, and hygiene for most 5-10 year olds is a lost cause, but getting them to wear masks is probably good enough. As long as the teacher's stay isolated from each other, it is relatively low risk. Schools/kids/parents need to be ready with learn from home plans because a single infection will close the school though. I haven't seen news articles on super spreading incidents resulting from a kid at a school being infected, even if a few teachers have been infected. Seen a lot of them from religious gatherings, family gatherings, bars, restaurants(dine in). | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11943 Posts
Can't find the direct citation from the RKI (basically the main corona research thingy in germany), but a lot of newspapers and media reports the same thing: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/schutz-vor-dem-coronavirus-was-bringen-gesichtsvisiere,S0xRutG | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/ea/7b/feea7b1e27bd8d7f295f7a6f1ba7c363.jpg) although this one appears to have a hole in it | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11943 Posts
On June 27 2020 05:05 JimmiC wrote: Darn, I wonder if there are any clear masks? Or it will be a lot more challenging for them to teach letter sounds. Perhaps video? If she doesn't have to stand right in front of them to teach, you could also do with separating her from the children with plexi glas stuff for those lessons.If they have chemistry or physics at her school, they might have these plexi glas separations to protect the children while displaying experiments which are slightly dangerous. I doubt clear masks exist, because they would still need to let air pass, so you can't just use plastic. And i don't know of any transparent fabric that lets air path. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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