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Blizzard’s Official Statement: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament Comment by JJR in case Blizzard tries to pull off a ninja edit: https://tl.net/forum/general/551816-blizzard-bans-hs-pro-for-political-statement?page=27#529 | ||
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xpdeus
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16766 Posts
On October 16 2019 15:51 twndomn wrote: Just want to give context on the gaming industry in China and how it's relevant to Blizzard. just to add to this... this person was heading up the design and financing of a fairly big budget game. Part of his financing was coming from China. He decided to speak his honest mind and all his China-based funding instantly ended. He is trying to make up for the loss by crowdfunding and various other fund raising efforts. So this man does not just talk the talk. He walks the walk. He is not merely running around like whiney child saying " i won't spend money nah nah nah". His stance of openness and honesty will force him to go through all kinds of additional fund raising efforts that can require dozens if not hundreds of hours. The business side of software development occupies as much time as the making of the software. | ||
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Loisl
21 Posts
On October 13 2019 20:09 Jockmcplop wrote: Why is it economically beneficial for the organizers? Because when there's no politics, there's no reason to exclude certain groups of people from the sport. I don't want politics to be taboo, and political video games should be a thing, but in competitive situations all of that should be left elsewhere. Otherwise sports will just become another version of the Eurovision song contest. There are a million possible reasons why keeping politics out might be economically benefical. Not just one. Also just no to your last sentence. It does not make sense. Like... not at all. Could you explain what you were trying to say? | ||
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Loisl
21 Posts
On October 13 2019 21:59 hitthat wrote: Nah. Kingdom Come Deliverance controversy shows it is not correct. The game director has righ-wing political opinion, true, but it was not reflected in the game. However, he was also accused of racism because he refused to make black characters in his game. Nevermind that local academic historians he consulted and discouraged him of that were much more likely more competent on topic than the "blog historians" who started debacle. The whole production was tainted from that moment with controversy and in the end both sides ended pissed. Actually... history of mankind shows that my statement is of course correct. Common sense does too. Also, I liked your little story. Even though it is 100% off topic. But thanks for sharing. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On October 16 2019 23:48 Loisl wrote: Actually... history of mankind shows that my statement is of course correct. Common sense does too. Also, I liked your little story. Even though it is 100% off topic. But thanks for sharing. Why did you removed the quote? There's no easy way to find the origin post(or I'm blind again), c'mon  | ||
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Penev
28483 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21783 Posts
On October 17 2019 04:18 Penev wrote: The damage is done, the ban taking so long compared to Blitzchung said enough.well Blizzard corrected the inconsistent bit in their approach I guess https://twitter.com/Xcelsior_hs/status/1184333609370619905 | ||
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Penev
28483 Posts
On October 17 2019 04:24 Gorsameth wrote: The damage is done, the ban taking so long compared to Blitzchung said enough. Of course. For me this is just another awful decision added to the pile. E: It shows they stand by their bullshit statement from last Friday. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8111 Posts
On October 17 2019 04:18 Penev wrote: well Blizzard corrected the inconsistent bit in their approach I guess https://twitter.com/Xcelsior_hs/status/1184333609370619905 This has the massive stench of "Well, now that we've told everyone we'd ban them equally, I guess we kinda just have to double down on that pretense, huh?" Guess I'll sit down and wait for the 8.5 years late MarineKing ban | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10657 Posts
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Boltwork
18 Posts
Old thread on it: https://tl.net/forum/general/207156-sc2-and-politics It's kind of funny to look back and see the poll with 60% of people saying to keep political messages out of esports, and only 16% supporting. It's like the reverse of this thread only because nobody outside Korea/Japan cares about those islands. From a prophetic post in that thread: But imagine if this were to change. Imagine the next issue brought up is "America stop invading other countries!" or "China get out of Tibet!" or other politically divisive issues. | ||
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abuse
Latvia1934 Posts
On October 17 2019 04:18 Penev wrote: well Blizzard corrected the inconsistent bit in their approach I guess https://twitter.com/Xcelsior_hs/status/1184333609370619905 I really don't understand their message there though. They keep saying "Every voice matters" and it's in their commandments or whatever, yet they're banning people for doing it in tournaments AND in the forums. Where exactly is it ok to do so on Blizzard's turf, if "every voice matters" to them? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9675 Posts
On October 17 2019 14:53 Boltwork wrote: MKP held up a sign after a game supporting the Korean claim to Dokdo island (aka Takeshima, aka the Liancourt Rocks). Old thread on it: https://tl.net/forum/general/207156-sc2-and-politics It's kind of funny to look back and see the poll with 60% of people saying to keep political messages out of esports, and only 16% supporting. It's like the reverse of this thread only because nobody outside Korea/Japan cares about those islands. From a prophetic post in that thread: That's all the proof I need, thanks. When people say they want politics in sport all they mean is they want this issue to be allowed because they have strong opinions on it, and if its a more general question of politics in sport they say no thanks. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10761 Posts
Longwinded answers during interviews or big time signaling is too much tho. Its about the game/sport, not the politics. | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany994 Posts
and now they swing around and say: "Ooops we really did not hate on freedom enough, so here is your ban, thanks for complaining and we hope your customer experience will be better in the future !" It amazes me how little understanding of the gaming scene, politics and the dynamic of internet shitstorm there seems to be with multi-million earning heads of gaming companies. EA basicly has F**** up the holy grail of license Star Wars + Videogames. They made two similar games which are mere mods to their battelfield franchise, and leave them out to die after the MTX desaster. Blizzard has made bad decisions in the past. Like ignoring and fighting the "We want vanilla WOW" people for 15 years straight making them unsubscribe from wow and play on their own servers - only to - Surprised Pikcachu- make boatloads of cash when finally making their own classic-server again. Now Blizzard handles the Hong Kong situation..like it goes away if you act stupid enough. That's cheeto-Jesus tactics. This is complete and utter disgust for the customer. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8111 Posts
On October 17 2019 15:06 abuse wrote: I really don't understand their message there though. They keep saying "Every voice matters" and it's in their commandments or whatever, yet they're banning people for doing it in tournaments AND in the forums. Where exactly is it ok to do so on Blizzard's turf, if "every voice matters" to them? It's in the small text: "Every voice matters (unless it hurts our bottom line)" | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10657 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9675 Posts
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50078254 South Korea's football team has described their recent match with North Korea as "like a war", after arriving back in the South. The qualifier for the 2022 World Cup took place in the North's capital Pyongyang on Tuesday in a stadium with no fans from either country. The match - which finished 0-0 - was only the second time South Korea's men's team had played in Pyongyang. The two countries are technically still at war and relations are at a low ebb. "It [the match] was like war," said the Korea Football Association vice-president Choi Young-il as the team arrived back at Incheon airport on Thursday. "North Koreans wouldn't even make eye contact when I talked to them, not to mention respond," he added. The captain of the South Korean squad - Tottenham's Son Heung-min - was also surprised by the North's rough tactics. "The match was very aggressive to a degree that I think it's a huge achievement just to return safely without being injured," he said. "North Korean players were sensitive and aggressive...there was a lot of severe swearing [from them]." Personally I'd rather esports was about esports. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8111 Posts
On October 17 2019 21:15 Jockmcplop wrote: Its like you guys want every Blizzard event featuring Chinese players to be like this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50078254 Personally I'd rather esports was about esports. It it possible we could start handing out warnings for dishonest arguments please? If you can't argue without using straw men, slippery slope and avoiding the subject, then I suggest you don't. Absolutely no one has claimed any such thing, and the example you brought up has no relation to the topic at hand. No one stood in a post win interview holding up a "Free South Korea" flag. It's a contact sport between two nations who are literally at war. Of course it's going to be tense. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16766 Posts
https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/101819 Wyden Letter to Activision Blizzard RE Hong Kong.pdf ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/k4nVtcY.jpg) | ||
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