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Blizzard’s Official Statement:

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament

Comment by JJR in case Blizzard tries to pull off a ninja edit:

https://tl.net/forum/general/551816-blizzard-bans-hs-pro-for-political-statement?page=27#529
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 21:55:03
October 18 2019 21:52 GMT
#741
On October 19 2019 06:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
2 US Senators and 3 US COngress-persons wrote a joing letter to Robert Kotick the CEO of ATVI..
[URL to the letter]


Was about to post this as well, also Blizzard has cancelled several events. Also multiple protest organizations, some even crowdfunded on patreon (successfully) are going to attend Blizzcon.
I really hope they don't cancel Blizzcon as well.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
October 18 2019 22:29 GMT
#742
On October 19 2019 06:52 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 06:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
2 US Senators and 3 US COngress-persons wrote a joing letter to Robert Kotick the CEO of ATVI..
[URL to the letter]


Was about to post this as well, also Blizzard has cancelled several events. Also multiple protest organizations, some even crowdfunded on patreon (successfully) are going to attend Blizzcon.
I really hope they don't cancel Blizzcon as well.


I would much rather blizzard listen to this and reverse course, but I don't see them doing that. I think I'd be ok with them cancelling blizzcon because of this, and having to deal with the shit storm that would ensue because of that.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 22:37:26
October 18 2019 22:34 GMT
#743
They should've employed the Michael Jordan policy that he began using 30 years ago. Namely, an across the board silence on all political matters.

Michael Jordan's dead silence on political matters these past 30 years is making him look like the baddest ass in the room. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 18 2019 22:36 GMT
#744
I want to see Blizzcon full of Winnie the Pooh costumes and cosplay in the vein of Hong Kong Mei. Make them send their fans away, take their signs, all while being recorded. This stench should linger within them; they should be saturated in it. EA is maybe the most hated name in eSports, and Blizzard is campaigning for the penultimate spot.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-18 22:48:03
October 18 2019 22:40 GMT
#745
On October 19 2019 07:36 Danglars wrote:
I want to see Blizzcon full of Winnie the Pooh costumes and cosplay in the vein of Hong Kong Mei. Make them send their fans away, take their signs, all while being recorded. This stench should linger within them; they should be saturated in it. EA is maybe the most hated name in eSports, and Blizzard is campaigning for the penultimate spot.

Don't forget that the NBA 3 point hand sign is a universal symbol of hate. Some weirdo trolls came up with some bizarro backstory about why its a hate symbol and then Blizzard's genius esports team got baited into banning it.

Apparently, these same weirdo trolls have come up with a bizarre theory about how the "Peace" sign is a 'dog whistle' for anti LGBTers. I think their ultimate goal is to get every # of digits being held up as being banworthy. They got 3 fingers held up as banworthy and they're working on "2". Maybe "4" is the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse. That's next after they get "Peace" banned.

I'll be curious to see what their back story is for "1" and "5" being hate symbols.

We'll all have to walk around with our hands in our pockets I guess.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
NewModel
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany124 Posts
October 18 2019 22:43 GMT
#746
Has anybody some Information to the MKP Incident. I mean, back in the Day it wasn´t Blizzard Hosting the Games? Gomtv made the Rules back in 2011 ?
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-19 00:53:59
October 18 2019 22:56 GMT
#747
On October 19 2019 07:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 07:36 Danglars wrote:
I want to see Blizzcon full of Winnie the Pooh costumes and cosplay in the vein of Hong Kong Mei. Make them send their fans away, take their signs, all while being recorded. This stench should linger within them; they should be saturated in it. EA is maybe the most hated name in eSports, and Blizzard is campaigning for the penultimate spot.

Don't forget that the NBA 3 point hand sign is a universal symbol of hate. Some weirdo trolls came up with some bizarro backstory about why its a hate symbol and then Blizzard's genius esports team got baited into banning it.

Apparently, these same weirdo trolls have come up with a bizarre theory about how the "Peace" sign is a 'dog whistle' for anti LGBTers. I think their ultimate goal is to get every # of digits being held up as being banworthy. They got 3 fingers held up as banworthy and they're working on "2". Maybe "4" is the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse. That's next after they get "Peace" banned.

I'll be curious to see what their back story is for "1" and "5" being hate symbols.

We'll all have to walk around with our hands in our pockets I guess.

You're reminding me of that news headache recently. The 4chan trolls making the OK sign into White Power sign, very successfully fooling a buncha media members ... who later dug in with some version of “started as a joke, now seriously adopted by xyz groups.” I’m still aghast. Just don’t come for my college’s hand signal used in our sporting events!

I do want to generally say that approaching these topics with humor and some level of mischief is the right way to stay sane and focused in events without short resolutions.

NBA doing to the NBC what I hope Blizzard fans do to Blizzard:

Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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KungKras
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden484 Posts
October 19 2019 13:18 GMT
#748
On October 19 2019 07:56 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 07:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 19 2019 07:36 Danglars wrote:
I want to see Blizzcon full of Winnie the Pooh costumes and cosplay in the vein of Hong Kong Mei. Make them send their fans away, take their signs, all while being recorded. This stench should linger within them; they should be saturated in it. EA is maybe the most hated name in eSports, and Blizzard is campaigning for the penultimate spot.

Don't forget that the NBA 3 point hand sign is a universal symbol of hate. Some weirdo trolls came up with some bizarro backstory about why its a hate symbol and then Blizzard's genius esports team got baited into banning it.

Apparently, these same weirdo trolls have come up with a bizarre theory about how the "Peace" sign is a 'dog whistle' for anti LGBTers. I think their ultimate goal is to get every # of digits being held up as being banworthy. They got 3 fingers held up as banworthy and they're working on "2". Maybe "4" is the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse. That's next after they get "Peace" banned.

I'll be curious to see what their back story is for "1" and "5" being hate symbols.

We'll all have to walk around with our hands in our pockets I guess.

You're reminding me of that news headache recently. The 4chan trolls making the OK sign into White Power sign, very successfully fooling a buncha media members ... who later dug in with some version of “started as a joke, now seriously adopted by xyz groups.” I’m still aghast. Just don’t come for my college’s hand signal used in our sporting events!

I do want to generally say that approaching these topics with humor and some level of mischief is the right way to stay sane and focused in events without short resolutions.

NBA doing to the NBC what I hope Blizzard fans do to Blizzard:
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1185350564302983169


That's a really cool action.
But didn't he kinda give the NBA money by buying all those tickets? I mean, a demonstration outside the game might have had the same effect without paying them.
"When life gives me lemons, I go look for oranges"
zenist
Profile Joined July 2019
30 Posts
October 19 2019 14:42 GMT
#749
On October 19 2019 22:18 KungKras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2019 07:56 Danglars wrote:
On October 19 2019 07:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 19 2019 07:36 Danglars wrote:
I want to see Blizzcon full of Winnie the Pooh costumes and cosplay in the vein of Hong Kong Mei. Make them send their fans away, take their signs, all while being recorded. This stench should linger within them; they should be saturated in it. EA is maybe the most hated name in eSports, and Blizzard is campaigning for the penultimate spot.

Don't forget that the NBA 3 point hand sign is a universal symbol of hate. Some weirdo trolls came up with some bizarro backstory about why its a hate symbol and then Blizzard's genius esports team got baited into banning it.

Apparently, these same weirdo trolls have come up with a bizarre theory about how the "Peace" sign is a 'dog whistle' for anti LGBTers. I think their ultimate goal is to get every # of digits being held up as being banworthy. They got 3 fingers held up as banworthy and they're working on "2". Maybe "4" is the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse. That's next after they get "Peace" banned.

I'll be curious to see what their back story is for "1" and "5" being hate symbols.

We'll all have to walk around with our hands in our pockets I guess.

You're reminding me of that news headache recently. The 4chan trolls making the OK sign into White Power sign, very successfully fooling a buncha media members ... who later dug in with some version of “started as a joke, now seriously adopted by xyz groups.” I’m still aghast. Just don’t come for my college’s hand signal used in our sporting events!

I do want to generally say that approaching these topics with humor and some level of mischief is the right way to stay sane and focused in events without short resolutions.

NBA doing to the NBC what I hope Blizzard fans do to Blizzard:
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1185350564302983169


That's a really cool action.
But didn't he kinda give the NBA money by buying all those tickets? I mean, a demonstration outside the game might have had the same effect without paying them.


Media won't cover that though.
The Blade of Sparta
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-19 22:55:35
October 19 2019 22:54 GMT
#750
On October 19 2019 07:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
They should've employed the Michael Jordan policy that he began using 30 years ago. Namely, an across the board silence on all political matters.

Michael Jordan's dead silence on political matters these past 30 years is making him look like the baddest ass in the room. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.


Strong implication that if they don't actively side with the chinese government, their products will be banned in china. A lot of other companies are involved as well; why else would they shoot themselves in the foot so many times?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33367 Posts
October 20 2019 01:30 GMT
#751
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/dk92xe/free_hong_kong_osu_stands_with_democracy/

Some students in the StarCraft portion of TeSPA (same Blizzard collegiate esports program where the American University controversy occurred) also made a political statement.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 20 2019 04:08 GMT
#752
On October 20 2019 10:30 Waxangel wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/dk92xe/free_hong_kong_osu_stands_with_democracy/

Some students in the StarCraft portion of TeSPA (same Blizzard collegiate esports program where the American University controversy occurred) also made a political statement.

Clearly the commentators did not even attempt to condemn this message thus they failed in defending the dignity and honor of China. Ban them, ban them all.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 14:28:37
October 20 2019 14:28 GMT
#753
I am glad he got banned, I filly support Beijing, go China, crush the golden boys !
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8071 Posts
October 20 2019 14:30 GMT
#754
On October 20 2019 23:28 stilt wrote:
I am glad he got banned, I filly support Beijing, go China, crush the golden boys !


I can't even tell what's sarcasm and not any more.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 16:02:33
October 20 2019 15:45 GMT
#755
On October 15 2019 11:42 zenist wrote:
Regarding HK protest, it has been proven that many Chinese police have disguised themselves as protesters to conduct violence.

Regardless of violence though, you can't blame HKers for protesting because carrie lam (controlled by the communist party) made stupid move of barring masks. The movement was dying down after completely getting rid of the extradition bill.



This is a false statement, China doesn't gain anything by prolonging violence in Hong Kong and benefits only if Hong Kong moves on from the violence.

First of all riots were not dying down, they continued even worse if you follow the news there regularly. Second the mask ban is necessary to catch rioters and vandalists and arsonists and to discourage the continuation of this acts... A normal law in many asian countries like Singapore as well as western countries like the US.

I don't blame peaceful protesters, but I hope everyone who committed violence there would be dealt with the full extent of the law. I just can't support violence and vandalism:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3033714/protesters-block-roads-during-illegal-march-hong-kong
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 17:44:27
October 20 2019 17:36 GMT
#756
On October 21 2019 00:45 raga4ka wrote:
First of all riots were not dying down, they continued even worse if you follow the news there regularly. Second the mask ban is necessary to catch rioters and vandalists and arsonists and to discourage the continuation of this acts... A normal law in many asian countries like Singapore as well as western countries like the US.

The internet lounges and PC Bangs in the worst areas of Toronto all forbid wearing anything that covers one's face including any kind of hood. Very generally speaking, I support a face mask ban.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
zenist
Profile Joined July 2019
30 Posts
October 20 2019 20:37 GMT
#757
On October 21 2019 00:45 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 11:42 zenist wrote:
Regarding HK protest, it has been proven that many Chinese police have disguised themselves as protesters to conduct violence.

Regardless of violence though, you can't blame HKers for protesting because carrie lam (controlled by the communist party) made stupid move of barring masks. The movement was dying down after completely getting rid of the extradition bill.



This is a false statement, China doesn't gain anything by prolonging violence in Hong Kong and benefits only if Hong Kong moves on from the violence.

First of all riots were not dying down, they continued even worse if you follow the news there regularly. Second the mask ban is necessary to catch rioters and vandalists and arsonists and to discourage the continuation of this acts... A normal law in many asian countries like Singapore as well as western countries like the US.

I don't blame peaceful protesters, but I hope everyone who committed violence there would be dealt with the full extent of the law. I just can't support violence and vandalism:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3033714/protesters-block-roads-during-illegal-march-hong-kong


China wants excuse to use to violence against the protesters.
The Blade of Sparta
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
October 21 2019 04:09 GMT
#758
On October 21 2019 00:45 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 11:42 zenist wrote:
Regarding HK protest, it has been proven that many Chinese police have disguised themselves as protesters to conduct violence.

Regardless of violence though, you can't blame HKers for protesting because carrie lam (controlled by the communist party) made stupid move of barring masks. The movement was dying down after completely getting rid of the extradition bill.



This is a false statement, China doesn't gain anything by prolonging violence in Hong Kong and benefits only if Hong Kong moves on from the violence.

First of all riots were not dying down, they continued even worse if you follow the news there regularly. Second the mask ban is necessary to catch rioters and vandalists and arsonists and to discourage the continuation of this acts... A normal law in many asian countries like Singapore as well as western countries like the US.

I don't blame peaceful protesters, but I hope everyone who committed violence there would be dealt with the full extent of the law. I just can't support violence and vandalism:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3033714/protesters-block-roads-during-illegal-march-hong-kong

the problem is not what the protestors is doing, it is whom they are against
same behavior in Chili or Spain or other country are not allowed, but if it is against EVIL CHINA, IT is fight for freedom.
The rule is always clear, dont you know that?XD
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-21 07:19:32
October 21 2019 06:56 GMT
#759
On October 21 2019 02:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2019 00:45 raga4ka wrote:
First of all riots were not dying down, they continued even worse if you follow the news there regularly. Second the mask ban is necessary to catch rioters and vandalists and arsonists and to discourage the continuation of this acts... A normal law in many asian countries like Singapore as well as western countries like the US.

The internet lounges and PC Bangs in the worst areas of Toronto all forbid wearing anything that covers one's face including any kind of hood. Very generally speaking, I support a face mask ban.


does Toronto have face recognition cameras installed everywhere which are actively used and is Toronto known to make people disappear and then reappear again dead and naked in the river?
If I were in such a place, I'd very much prefer to wear a mask, thank you.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-21 07:36:55
October 21 2019 07:22 GMT
#760
On October 21 2019 00:45 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2019 11:42 zenist wrote:
Regarding HK protest, it has been proven that many Chinese police have disguised themselves as protesters to conduct violence.

Regardless of violence though, you can't blame HKers for protesting because carrie lam (controlled by the communist party) made stupid move of barring masks. The movement was dying down after completely getting rid of the extradition bill.



This is a false statement, China doesn't gain anything by prolonging violence in Hong Kong and benefits only if Hong Kong moves on from the violence.

First of all riots were not dying down, they continued even worse if you follow the news there regularly. Second the mask ban is necessary to catch rioters and vandalists and arsonists and to discourage the continuation of this acts... A normal law in many asian countries like Singapore as well as western countries like the US.

I don't blame peaceful protesters, but I hope everyone who committed violence there would be dealt with the full extent of the law. I just can't support violence and vandalism:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3033714/protesters-block-roads-during-illegal-march-hong-kong


how the hell is it a "false statement"?
You saying it's false does not make it false.
There's so much evidence out there to prove you wrong that it's even absurd to state it at all.

And yes, China does gain anything by prolonging violence in HK.
The worse the situation gets, the more reason they are to interefere in a more serious, military capacity.
If China is successful in making the world see this as "HK people are the ones who are violent, and they are a danger to themselves, we're moving in to ensure HK's safety" then it's precisely the best possible outcome for China. There will never be any demonstrations or riots again. HK will be done.
I don't believe you.
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