US Politics Mega-thread - Page 817

On October 06 2018 06:03 spudde123 wrote:
As perhaps expected, there's already takes on for example the Daily Wire about how Ford should now be investigated and how the entire thing was some sort of a coordinated plot and none of the allegations were genuine to begin with.

Putting aside how the politicians and the media handled it, I have a really hard time imagining women just waiting in line to make up false accusations and perhaps destroy their own lives in the process. Not to mention that looking at Ford's testimony, the first thing that came to mind wasn't exactly that she is an operative making the whole thing up. Would be interesting to know whether the FBI interviews just indicated that there's no evidence of the alleged assault, or if her entire story got somehow discredited.

On October 06 2018 09:56 Doodsmack wrote:
I could certainly see how someone could conclude in good faith that the allegations against Kavanaugh didnt warrant denying him the seat, although to claim one way or another that Fords accusation was true or not is pure political bias. The biggest issue with Kavanugh is him issuing a threat when he said "what goes around comes around." He did mitigate that threat with his op ed, although I wish his OP ed would have specifically said that he retracts the statement.

On October 06 2018 11:16 Wulfey_LA wrote:
The post above does get me thinking. How do the white nationalists supporters of Trump square their anti-semitism with his carte blanche support for Likudnik Israel? All these conspiracy theories about Cultural Marxists and whatnot always have banker/Jews as the ultimate villains in the story (Soros is Jewish). But there you have Trump backing Israel to the hilt.

On October 06 2018 11:16 Wulfey_LA wrote:
The post above does get me thinking. How do the white nationalists supporters of Trump square their anti-semitism with his carte blanche support for Likudnik Israel? All these conspiracy theories about Cultural Marxists and whatnot always have banker/Jews as the ultimate villains in the story (Soros is Jewish). But there you have Trump backing Israel to the hilt.

On October 06 2018 11:02 BangFlangam wrote:
...the Rothschild family had gone to Winston Churchill with the offer of getting America involved in the world war through propaganda, for they controlled nearly all the press, only if they were given Palestine, which at the time was under the command of the Queen. The Sinking of the Lusitania was their propaganda weapon and from there on out here we are.
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On October 06 2018 12:08 Aquanim wrote:

You are aware the Lusitania was sunk in 1915 and contributed to the United States becoming involved in the First World War, not the Second?

On October 06 2018 11:58 BangFlangam wrote:


It's pretty deep my friend, look at Kavanaugh, we are told he was raised a Jesuit. How often do we have Jesuits playing both sides, both left and right. Now we are told the "Jesuit church disowns Kavanaugh" when all along we know these circles all work together, answering to someone higher. "All Roads Lead to Rome"

Now if Kavanaugh went to this elite Jesuit school, there is some forgotten texts from the Jesuit order one of them being,
"THE OATH OF SECRECY OF THE JESUITS" in layman terms saying that their ultimate allegiance on Earth at least is to the Pope, not the people, not the president. Some of you have claimed you caught Kavanaugh in some lies, has he ever taken this Jesuit vow? Who knows there's an oath of SECRECY.

On October 06 2018 07:29 Ryzel wrote:
Anyone who thinks the Dems are the only ones going to benefit from outrage about this whole thing haven’t been reading responses from people like Nettles/Danglars/Introvert. There are a LOT of people on the right who are livid about what Kavanaugh had to go through, and pretty much everyone is hyping the blue wave. I’m sure turn out is going to be high on both sides.

In addition, Dems still don’t have someone to rally behind. Everyone who likes Trump will vote Trump, everyone who hates Trump...splits their votes among who they think is best to replace him. Until the Dems announce someone that at least 75% of anti-Trumpers can get behind, I would absolutely place my bets on a Trump 2020 win.

On October 06 2018 09:22 iamthedave wrote:


In fairness, some gentle investigation just to make sure that it is legitimate and NOT a political hit job is worthwhile. Nothing too invasive given the topic, unless it looks fishy.

Just so that both sides can be satisfied.

On October 06 2018 14:30 LuckyFool wrote:


There is a lot of polling over the past two weeks indicating a huge chunk of the supposed blue wave is evaporating quickly. A ton of people on the right seemed to get rather radicalized over this Kavanaugh stuff in a way that I think many are not able to quantify exactly at this time. It will be interesting to see if it’s momentum that will carry into November assuming BK gets voted in tomorrow the odds of these radicalized righty’s keeping up their momentum for a full month might lessen significantly, will they revert back to acting like old Lindsey Graham, or will they stay on a warpath? Only time will tell.

On October 06 2018 16:16 iamthedave wrote:


Source?

On October 06 2018 11:16 Wulfey_LA wrote:
The post above does get me thinking. How do the white nationalists supporters of Trump square their anti-semitism with his carte blanche support for Likudnik Israel? All these conspiracy theories about Cultural Marxists and whatnot always have banker/Jews as the ultimate villains in the story (Soros is Jewish). But there you have Trump backing Israel to the hilt.

Nazism constituted, or could constitute, a "new beginning" with respect to all this, a new beginning for culture and politics. The black notebooks are a testament to the almost messianic expectations that inspired the philosopher to join Hitler's party. All this much is true. But it was already known to Heidegger scholars from a section of his 1935 Introduction to Metaphysics and its celebration of the "inner truth and greatness" of nazism.

Modernity is synonymous with subversion, since with its universalist ideologies (liberalism, democracy, communism) it destroys the communitarian and traditional bonds that unite the members of a given people and separates this same people from its territory and history. Inevitably, the critique of modernity ends up also concerning Jews. The black notebooks confirm this: present in many countries and attached to urban rather than rural life, Jews are the incarnation of "rootlessness", "distance from the soil" and thus subversion. And again, this attitude is far from surprising to the Heidegger scholar: the 2 October 1929 letter in which the philosopher emphasises the need to oppose "growing Judaisation within German spiritual life", reinforcing this by rooting it in authentically German forces, is already well-known.

On October 06 2018 20:40 Grumbels wrote:

Anti-semites love Israel because it's an ethnostate and they want to use it as a model for their own racist politics. Anti-semitism isn't purely about racism, it's also about these lurid fantasies of secret cabals of elites poisoning good young men and creating a degenerate society. In the past you had the protocols of the elders of zion, today you have Jordan Peterson talking about (((cultural marxism))).

I read an article about nazi philosopher Martin Heidegger a while ago after new "black notebooks" were discovered containing anti-semitic writings.



Jewish people are not seen as "authentic". They tend to live in cities, they migrate a lot, they're never fully part of the mainstream communities, they read books and know different languages, they keep to themselves, they look slightly different, they're involved with sinister plots in the financial industry and good Aryan Men are enslaved by their wicked machinations etc.

But Israel is different, it's exactly the type of ethnostate that neo-nazis want. It just happens to have Jewish people living inside it. And mind you, neo-nazis are sufficiently stupid that they will still turn on any of their members if they're discovered to have 2% Jewish blood or whatever.

On October 06 2018 22:05 JimmiC wrote:
The problem here is looking for logic in hate.

On October 06 2018 21:10 nojok wrote:

What do you call an ethnostate? They have more than 20% of Arabic citizens. Sure they have this disgusting habit of stealing lands, suffocating an entire population, bombing them for whatever reason but inside their own frontiers they're not that different from many other Western countries.