EPTPutting aside how the politicians and the media handled it, I have a really hard time imagining women just waiting in line to make up false accusations and perhaps destroy their own lives in the process. Not to mention that looking at Ford's testimony, the first thing that came to mind wasn't exactly that she is an operative making the whole thing up. Would be interesting to know whether the FBI interviews just indicated that there's no evidence of the alleged assault, or if her entire story got somehow discredited.
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spudde123
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Putting aside how the politicians and the media handled it, I have a really hard time imagining women just waiting in line to make up false accusations and perhaps destroy their own lives in the process. Not to mention that looking at Ford's testimony, the first thing that came to mind wasn't exactly that she is an operative making the whole thing up. Would be interesting to know whether the FBI interviews just indicated that there's no evidence of the alleged assault, or if her entire story got somehow discredited. | ||
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iamthedave
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Plansix
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On October 06 2018 06:07 iamthedave wrote: Was the FBI investigation legit though? I mean, if it was complete and thorough, and found nothing, then it seems fair to leave him be. We just have to hope some selfless Senator or staffer leaks the investigation report to us, but I put the odds of that happening at less than 5% | ||
micronesia
United States24741 Posts
edit: maybe it's considered attorney client privileged? hmm looking into it I could see an argument for the law enforcement exemption as well... not sure what the precedent is. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On October 06 2018 06:14 micronesia wrote: Can't someone make a Freedom of Information Act request for the report? It's a government document and it isn't classified. As far as I can tell, it isn't Controlled Unclassified Information except for HIPAA privacy information which can be redacted out. edit: maybe it's considered attorney client privileged? They can, but isn't the FOIA pipeline clogged up and kinda slow? From FOIA.gov on requests for the FBI: Average processing time for 2017 33 working days for simple requests 210 working days for complex requests | ||
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micronesia
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On October 06 2018 06:21 micronesia wrote: Yeah it would take a while... but once he's confirmed there's not really a rush anymore if you know what I mean. Yeah, that's sort of true. But by time the report comes out via FOIA eyes will be on the next scandal and it'll be a lot harder to build political good will. I mean just look at the how quickly the story of Trump's family dodging 500 million in taxes died... I'm not sure an errata to yesteryear's story is going to gain much traction especially if dems are still powerless to see impeachment all the way through themselves (which is overwhelmingly likely I think?). | ||
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Plansix
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Simberto
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On_Slaught
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On October 06 2018 06:33 Simberto wrote: The problem is that Trump produces terrible trash at a previously unimaginable rate. I am totally certain that by the time this shit is over, there will be new shit. So far, within two years, there has never been time to revisit any of the previous shit. Some of his stuff sticks. I haven't forgotten Puerto Rico. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On October 06 2018 06:38 On_Slaught wrote: While this mess was going on Mueller let go 2 prosecutors from his team. A sign he is wrapping up at least part of the investigation me thinks. Do you know what two specialties those prosecutors had? It'd be a good indicator of what they have considered to be fully wrapped up. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On October 06 2018 06:03 spudde123 wrote: As perhaps expected, there's already takes on for example the Daily Wire about how Ford should now be investigated and how the entire thing was some sort of a coordinated plot and none of the allegations were genuine to begin with. Putting aside how the politicians and the media handled it, I have a really hard time imagining women just waiting in line to make up false accusations and perhaps destroy their own lives in the process. Not to mention that looking at Ford's testimony, the first thing that came to mind wasn't exactly that she is an operative making the whole thing up. Would be interesting to know whether the FBI interviews just indicated that there's no evidence of the alleged assault, or if her entire story got somehow discredited. Look at Lindsey Graham's rant. See some posters in this thread. People on the right genuinely believe that. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On October 06 2018 07:00 iamthedave wrote: Look at Lindsey Graham's rant. See some posters in this thread. People on the right genuinely believe that. I saw the saturday night live version and looked up his real speech after. I couldn't believe the 'this is hell' part was verbatim. | ||
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Ryzel
United States536 Posts
In addition, Dems still don’t have someone to rally behind. Everyone who likes Trump will vote Trump, everyone who hates Trump...splits their votes among who they think is best to replace him. Until the Dems announce someone that at least 75% of anti-Trumpers can get behind, I would absolutely place my bets on a Trump 2020 win. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On October 06 2018 06:59 Amui wrote: Do you know what two specialties those prosecutors had? It'd be a good indicator of what they have considered to be fully wrapped up. Related to financial crimes if I followed correctly | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 06 2018 07:29 Ryzel wrote: Anyone who thinks the Dems are the only ones going to benefit from outrage about this whole thing haven’t been reading responses from people like Nettles/Danglars/Introvert. There are a LOT of people on the right who are livid about what Kavanaugh had to go through, and pretty much everyone is hyping the blue wave. I’m sure turn out is going to be high on both sides. In addition, Dems still don’t have someone to rally behind. Everyone who likes Trump will vote Trump, everyone who hates Trump...splits their votes among who they think is best to replace him. Until the Dems announce someone that at least 75% of anti-Trumpers can get behind, I would absolutely place my bets on a Trump 2020 win. I’m pretty sure they just need to run a candidate with a positive approval rating. Trump barely won against Clinton and he hasn’t gotten any popular since then. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On October 06 2018 07:48 Plansix wrote: I’m pretty sure they just need to run a candidate with a positive approval rating. Trump barely won against Clinton and he hasn’t gotten any popular since then. The fact that Democrats haven't effectively picked somebody years in advance, and hence Republicans can't build up momentum on their wave of smear against them, is almost certainly a good thing for Democrat chances IMO. | ||
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