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The other problem with libertarianism is that it ignores the fact that the end result is precisely what we have in the U.S. Anyone with a shred of knowledge of healthcare points out that our healthcare system is the worst in the developed world by a very wide margin and libertarians respond "that's not a free market system!".
The problem is that it is. Libertarianism isn't just talking about the actual buying of health insurance, but the government's lack of regulation resulting in the players in the market being able to dictate the regulations on the market. Market actors have absolutely no interest in a free market and in fact have every reason to want either 1) a monopoly or 2) an oligarchy over their respective market. Considering this, libertarianism just ignores too many realities about human nature.
This is why it's naive and foolish and has a stereotype of being the ideology of selfish/young and foolish men.
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The push back from the legal community continues with a former Supreme Court Justice saying that’s BKs actions at the hearing should disqualify him. This, like the tax bill, seems designed to pass not based on merit, but out of fear of blow back from an angry base that doesn’t want to “lose” to the democrats for any reason. Thr vote is set for Saturday so no one can really think about all the other reasons why BK is a bad nominee.
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On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not.
if I remember I'll answer later. but quickly, he wasn't my favorite, but after this smear job he must be confirmed. This garbage cannot be rewarded. so in that sense, I will be very happy. and it seems like many agree, the right hasn't been this united in a while. Now, to keep it that way for the next month.
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Pretty sure JPS' statements are a historic first.
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On October 05 2018 05:26 farvacola wrote:
Pretty sure JPS' statements are a historic first.
In modern history for sure. I can’t remember when a retired justice every talking about the nomination process, let alone came out against a nominee from his party.
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On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not.
What is great about Kavanaugh:
Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared.
Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group.
Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes.
Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table.
Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century.
The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas).
The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge.
Edit: The best thing about Kavanaugh is that he isn't claiming that he can or could save the world or even solve society's most pressing issues. I walked away from the Democrat party not because I hated their platform but because they kept claiming that if only they had absolute power, they could stall climate change, eliminate income inequality, provide perfect healthcare, etc.etc.etc. They literally think they are gods. In Kavanaugh Justice, the law isn't about getting one's rights but about minimizing wrongs. It is a much better view of the world.
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On October 05 2018 05:29 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:26 farvacola wrote:
Pretty sure JPS' statements are a historic first. In modern history for sure. I can’t remember when a retired justice every talking about the nomination process, let alone came out against a nominee from his party. I'm sure he will be called a RINO already.
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On October 05 2018 05:31 KR_4EVR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. What is great about Kavanaugh: Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared. Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group. Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes. Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table. Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century. The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas). The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge.
Is this satire? I can't tell. 
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On October 05 2018 05:35 Grumbels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:31 KR_4EVR wrote:On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. What is great about Kavanaugh: Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared. Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group. Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes. Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table. Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century. The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas). The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge. Is this satire? I can't tell.
I can't either. But it is the most anime description I have read of a Supreme Court nominee I've ever read.
On October 05 2018 05:34 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:29 Plansix wrote:On October 05 2018 05:26 farvacola wrote:
Pretty sure JPS' statements are a historic first. In modern history for sure. I can’t remember when a retired justice every talking about the nomination process, let alone came out against a nominee from his party. I'm sure he will be called a RINO already.
Of course. The only route is to discard the old members of the party and go forward, regardless of what damn is don’t’ to the institution along the way. The concept of merit has left the building, only sycophants need apply.
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On October 05 2018 05:38 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:35 Grumbels wrote:On October 05 2018 05:31 KR_4EVR wrote:On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. What is great about Kavanaugh: Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared. Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group. Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes. Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table. Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century. The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas). The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge. Is this satire? I can't tell. I can't either. But it is the most anime description I have read of a Supreme Court nominee I've ever read.
I'm reading through KR_4EVR's post history and found this:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 28 2018 08:29 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2018 08:07 KR_4EVR wrote:
It's almost universal that people want to limit weapons access according to lethality.
I recently watched a Ted show by an ex-Nato commander who basically took out a HUGE gun and set it to rest on a pedestal. He then proceeded to explain very clearly why you 1) either need a standing army with those weapons or 2) need every man in the country armed with the latest, greatest weapon.
He then recounted how when the German Socialists invaded Denmark, the guns of his grandfather and the townspeople, being NOT the latest and greatest, did virtually zero.
Previous to watching that video, I used to think that there should be some limit on weapons capacity. Now I don't. I think that every grown man should own a weapon at least capable of neutralizing a tank or helicopter. I'd far rather risk being killed by a social misfit with a gun than being controlled by sociopaths without them.
At the end of the day, even a bar of soap can be used to kill a person, but will not help you in violent times. Similarly, a C-4 may kill nobody ever but would prove very effective if needed in violent times.
Many people have written about the cycles of civilization. After every golden age there inevitably comes a time of turmoil. EVERY SINGLE TIME people at the peak of civilization make the mistake of thinking that they will be secure and convince themselves that things are getting better.
If anything, seeing more gun death statistics should always convince people to buy more weapons, and seeing fewer should convince people to buy less. When the future arrives you won't have time to prepare.
And, as I said, I wouldn't mind being killed by a socail outcaste, but I'd fight blood and iron against being controlled by gunless sociopaths. I'm gonna have to request a poe's law clarification; as with this thread you can never tell. (i.e. is your post satire or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law )
The jury is still out...
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On October 05 2018 05:36 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:31 KR_4EVR wrote:On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. What is great about Kavanaugh: Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared. Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group. Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes. Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table. Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century. The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas). The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge. Can you give some examples of why this is the case? His comments at the hearing made it appear to me that he very much feels there is two teams and very clear what team he is on.
Of course there are two teams. There are those who pre-judged him (literally prejudiced bigots) and those who didn't. This has nothing to do with his choice; he had no choice in the matter of who decided to become morally deficient without one word from him.
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On October 05 2018 05:31 KR_4EVR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. What is great about Kavanaugh: Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared. Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group. Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes. Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table. Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century. The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas). The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge. Edit: The best thing about Kavanaugh is that he isn't claiming that he can or could save the world or even solve society's most pressing issues. I walked away from the Democrat party not because I hated their platform but because they kept claiming that if only they had absolute power, they could stall climate change, eliminate income inequality, provide perfect healthcare, etc.etc.etc. They literally think they are gods. In Kavanaugh Justice, the law isn't about getting one's rights but about minimizing wrongs. It is a much better view of the world.
Are you sure you didnt leave the Democratic party because its womanly, emotional and weak? Those are certainly three traits that, generally speaking, are related. Kavanaugh, on the other hand, demonstrated at his last hearing that he is NOT emotional.
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On October 05 2018 05:44 KR_4EVR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:36 JimmiC wrote:On October 05 2018 05:31 KR_4EVR wrote:On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. What is great about Kavanaugh: Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared. Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group. Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes. Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table. Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century. The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas). The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge. Can you give some examples of why this is the case? His comments at the hearing made it appear to me that he very much feels there is two teams and very clear what team he is on. Of course there are two teams. There are those who pre-judged him (literally prejudiced bigots) and those who didn't. This has nothing to do with his choice; he had no choice in the matter of who decided to become morally deficient without one word from him.
Did Kavanaugh not exist in this reality until he was nominated to the Supreme Court and spoke before the Senate? Did he arrive fully formed as a federal judge at the moment Trump named him?
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On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not.
Why should I be unhappy? This whole mess is ultimately a monumental Democratic victory politically. No doubt the process being this political is bad for our democracy, but the wheels have been turning on that for a while now. I'll have more to say on why this is a big win for Democrats when he is actually confirmed Saturday.
Also @Justice Stevens... that is a big deal for him to say that. Feels unprecedented. Wouldn't be surprised if O'Connor agrees. Imagine what people on the court think...
BTW that NYT letter is up to over 2,400 law professors signing it. Also unprecedented.
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On October 05 2018 05:47 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:31 KR_4EVR wrote:On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. What is great about Kavanaugh: Typical justice is blind. Kavanaugh Justice is many-eyed and many-eared. Typical justice is about which group you belong to. Kavanaugh Justice grants no privileges or demerits based on your group. Typical justice says little with many words. Kavanaugh Justice keeps things simple yet speaks volumes. Typical justice is womanly, emotional, and weak, based on what is desired rather than what one has to work with. Kavanaugh Justice is strong, rational, and manly, seeing what can be done with what is on the table. Read what he wrote about substantive due process. Some of the best legal theory you will ever see fit for the 21st century. The fact that Kavanaugh rules ideas rather than being ruled by them is what makes him qualified. Unlike most people in the legal profession, he is actually capable of crafting his own ideas and not bent by the winds of every passing trend in cultural norms (Kennedy was ruled by ideas rather than a ruler of ideas). The fact that Kavanaugh is independent makes him qualified also. Kavanaugh will do as he pleases. He will not bow to anyone because he has no reason to. His integrity is his strength. He doesn't need approval from others and so is truly an independent judge. Edit: The best thing about Kavanaugh is that he isn't claiming that he can or could save the world or even solve society's most pressing issues. I walked away from the Democrat party not because I hated their platform but because they kept claiming that if only they had absolute power, they could stall climate change, eliminate income inequality, provide perfect healthcare, etc.etc.etc. They literally think they are gods. In Kavanaugh Justice, the law isn't about getting one's rights but about minimizing wrongs. It is a much better view of the world. Are you sure you didnt leave the Democratic party because its womanly, emotional and weak? Those are certainly three traits that, generally speaking, are related. Kavanaugh, on the other hand, demonstrated at his last hearing that he is NOT emotional.
Are you joking? Kavanaugh showed emotion in the extreme at the last hearing. But he was not the judge there; he was the prosecutor and Ford the defendant.
Edit: I watched over 13 hours of this junk.
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On October 05 2018 05:24 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. if I remember I'll answer later. but quickly, he wasn't my favorite, but after this smear job he must be confirmed. This garbage cannot be rewarded. so in that sense, I will be very happy. and it seems like many agree, the right hasn't been this united in a while. Now, to keep it that way for the next month.
What a pathetic reason lol
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On October 05 2018 05:50 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2018 05:14 JimmiC wrote:
To people happy that it looks like BK will be appointed. Why should I be happy with that, what is it about him that will make the supreme court better? I was very underwhelmed with his performance at the senate hearings and would love to hear what is great about him.
Dems please refrain from saying why you think the others are excited. I know why you are not. Why should I be unhappy? This whole mess is ultimately a monumental Democratic victory politically. No doubt the process being this political is bad for our democracy, but the wheels have been turning on that for a while now. I'll have more to say on why this is a big win for Democrats when he is actually confirmed Saturday. Also @Justice Stevens... that is a big deal for him to say that. Feels unprecedented. Wouldn't be surprised if O'Connor agrees. BTW that NYT letter is up to over 2,400 law professors signing it. Also unprecedented.
Definitely a big "the emperor has no clothes" moment.
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