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Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2609 Posts
July 21 2026 23:36 GMT
#117341
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

Source?
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1844 Posts
July 21 2026 23:52 GMT
#117342
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.


Insane that neither of you guys will answer a simple question.

Also insane that you are basically going along with "communist infiltration" story. Amazing.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24419 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 00:32:13
July 22 2026 00:29 GMT
#117343
On July 22 2026 08:52 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.


Insane that neither of you guys will answer a simple question.

Also insane that you are basically going along with "communist infiltration" story. Amazing.

So that's socialists and unionists. What do we think the chances are of right-wing Jewish Americans and Israelis speaking out before they realize this ends badly for them too?

As a micro illustration of this, we have the (semi-private) surveillance state encroaching on a community that thought it would be used to keep it safe.



It is a crazy scenario: corporate employees you've never met watching live feeds of your child's gymnastics class, not for security, but to impress potential customers. That's exactly what happened in Dunwoody, Georgia, where Flock Safety workers accessed cameras in children's spaces at the Marcus Jewish Community Center as part of sales demonstrations.

Despite learning about these intrusions, Dunwoody's city council renewed their surveillance contract with Flock anyway.

The Access Logs Tell the Story
Public records reveal specific dates when Flock employees viewed sensitive locations for commercial purposes.

The details, uncovered through public records requests by resident Jason Hunyar, are unsettling. On July 23, 2025, Flock's Randy Gluck viewed cameras labeled "Gym Mendel – 1" and "Main Pool Right." On September 30, 2025, Vice President Bob Carter accessed the "Gymnastics" camera.

These weren't security emergencies or system maintenance. They were sales pitches—Flock showing off their surveillance capabilities to prospective police department clients by streaming live footage of children.

The Fallout Didn't Stay in Dunwoody
Georgia kept finding new problems with Flock even after the contract was signed.

Dunwoody wasn't an isolated case. In the weeks after the council vote, departments across Georgia started auditing their own Flock use after the company rolled out a new tool built to flag suspicious search patterns. That audit turned up more trouble. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation announced arrests of several more officers accused of misusing license plate reader data, adding to a string of similar cases that included five officers fired from the Albany Police Department.

By July, some Georgia residents had stopped waiting on public records requests and started going after the hardware directly. In Barrow County, about an hour northeast of Atlanta, someone took a saw to three camera poles along Double Bridges Road and cut the solar power lines feeding them. A fourth camera near Apalachee High School was damaged the same weekend. The sheriff's office called it a felony under Georgia law and opened an investigation, but no suspects have been identified.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/flock-safety-employees-watched-kids-151737512.html

EDIT: I should add that Flock has no supporting evidence that it was sales related (not that it being sales related would somehow be okay)
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5065 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 00:37:51
July 22 2026 00:34 GMT
#117344
On July 22 2026 08:36 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

Source?


For which part? How much do you know of Cold War era left-wing activism?

On July 22 2026 08:52 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.


Insane that neither of you guys will answer a simple question.

Also insane that you are basically going along with "communist infiltration" story. Amazing.


Joe Biden won. You need better gotchas.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 00:48:53
July 22 2026 00:48 GMT
#117345
On July 22 2026 09:34 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 08:36 Billyboy wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

Source?


For which part? How much do you know of Cold War era left-wing activism?

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 08:52 Jankisa wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.


Insane that neither of you guys will answer a simple question.

Also insane that you are basically going along with "communist infiltration" story. Amazing.


Joe Biden won. You need better gotchas.

The teachers being communists, or your definition of communists. Because it’s strange that the most right wing democracy around has this communist problem that none of the much more left wing European countries have.

Also, you lose all credibility when you call Biden a communist.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46583 Posts
July 22 2026 00:53 GMT
#117346
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

What exactly is the Cuban "system" that teachers/unions have an affinity for?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3414 Posts
July 22 2026 00:59 GMT
#117347
Introvert uncritically believes universities indoctrinate people with leftism, so it shouldn't be a surprise he has McCarthyist opinions about teachers' unions.

Kids should graduate believing the Epstein class deserves more tax cuts and you need an ID to order pasta, anything less is godless and unpatriotic. /s
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5065 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 02:07:47
July 22 2026 01:38 GMT
#117348
On July 22 2026 09:48 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 09:34 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 08:36 Billyboy wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

Source?


For which part? How much do you know of Cold War era left-wing activism?

On July 22 2026 08:52 Jankisa wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.


Insane that neither of you guys will answer a simple question.

Also insane that you are basically going along with "communist infiltration" story. Amazing.


Joe Biden won. You need better gotchas.

The teachers being communists, or your definition of communists. Because it’s strange that the most right wing democracy around has this communist problem that none of the much more left wing European countries have.

Also, you lose all credibility when you call Biden a communist.


I didn't say the teachers are communists. I said many union leaders are lefties with sympathies for Cuba. We'd be totally screwed if the average teacher was like the union leaders.

Remember when, during COVID for example, the head the LA teachers union said that learning loss wasn't real, that it was OK that the students didn't know time tables because they knew oppression and "coup"? That's the sort of thing I'm talking about.

or things like this

https://x.com/CTULocal1/status/1971749649951142009?lang=en

Are we actually going to pretend teachers unions are led by normal center left liberals?

On July 22 2026 09:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

What exactly is the Cuban "system" that teachers/unions have an affinity for?


Same as the usual BS they all say, praising its education and healthcare system.

Edit: btw it's often framed as supporting Cuban union members or calling on the US to lift restrictions. Harder to find out and out praise for the Cuban regime as time has gone on. Fewer people gushing over the Castros. But there's no reason for a US union to take a position on a topic like that. Nevermind how, since so much over there is government run, it's not like you are finding actual free assocations of workers instead of state associations.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12898 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 02:26:41
July 22 2026 02:10 GMT
#117349
On July 22 2026 09:59 LightSpectra wrote:
Introvert uncritically believes universities indoctrinate people with leftism, so it shouldn't be a surprise he has McCarthyist opinions about teachers' unions.

Kids should graduate believing the Epstein class deserves more tax cuts and you need an ID to order pasta, anything less is godless and unpatriotic. /s

University has a leaning towards leftism, this isn't a belief.

The amount of political registration of university professors for democrats is significantly higher than republicans, especially for humanities and social sciences are 10 to 1 if not higher
Graduates also are more likely to be leftist/liberal compared to non-graduates.

Is it correlation or causation? who knows.
But humanities and social sciences are in particular have a longer stronger lasting effect than STEM and business students.
I would say that's a sign the courses aren't teaching enough opposing views and already the research papers within the courses are holding leftist views.

I don't necessarily think it's a problem neither, the youth will always be the one to hold more idealistic beliefs, and many would grow into more grounded views when they have to live in society.
I think it would be more depressing if one never had any challenge to their moral views.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)

I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2609 Posts
July 22 2026 02:35 GMT
#117350
On July 22 2026 10:38 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 09:48 Billyboy wrote:
On July 22 2026 09:34 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 08:36 Billyboy wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

Source?


For which part? How much do you know of Cold War era left-wing activism?

On July 22 2026 08:52 Jankisa wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.


Insane that neither of you guys will answer a simple question.

Also insane that you are basically going along with "communist infiltration" story. Amazing.


Joe Biden won. You need better gotchas.

The teachers being communists, or your definition of communists. Because it’s strange that the most right wing democracy around has this communist problem that none of the much more left wing European countries have.

Also, you lose all credibility when you call Biden a communist.


I didn't say the teachers are communists. I said many union leaders are lefties with sympathies for Cuba. We'd be totally screwed if the average teacher was like the union leaders.

Remember when, during COVID for example, the head the LA teachers union said that learning loss wasn't real, that it was OK that the students didn't know time tables because they knew oppression and "coup"? That's the sort of thing I'm talking about.

or things like this

https://x.com/CTULocal1/status/1971749649951142009?lang=en

Are we actually going to pretend teachers unions are led by normal center left liberals?

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 09:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

What exactly is the Cuban "system" that teachers/unions have an affinity for?


Same as the usual BS they all say, praising its education and healthcare system.

Edit: btw it's often framed as supporting Cuban union members or calling on the US to lift restrictions. Harder to find out and out praise for the Cuban regime as time has gone on. Fewer people gushing over the Castros. But there's no reason for a US union to take a position on a topic like that. Nevermind how, since so much over there is government run, it's not like you are finding actual free assocations of workers instead of state associations.


Saying something is good in another system with way lower reasources doesn’t make you a communist, it makes you able to look at things without bias. Certificate strange to call people who are likely not nearly as close to communism communist when you get so pissed at trump being called a fascist when he hits almost all the main features.

Out of curiosity you have always bristled at being called far right. What positions are right of yours? Feel free to pick abortion, or taxation, or whatever floats your boat.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3414 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 03:36:46
July 22 2026 03:33 GMT
#117351
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12898 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 03:54:59
July 22 2026 03:51 GMT
#117352
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Show nested quote +
Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief.
Professors are meant to encourage students to present arguments / statements / data, backed it up with sources, and then rate it then. (yes, the paper would have included the counter points)
This has always been the case since junior school, and what education is about.

It's to teach critical thinking, not doctrination

>You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.
I am talking about the moral black mail arguments, which are literally what being used for DOGE and USAID arguments.
You are just missing the point.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
July 22 2026 03:53 GMT
#117353
On July 22 2026 12:51 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief.
Professors are meant to encourage students to present arguments / statements / data, and back it up with sources.
This has always been the case since junior school, and what education is about.

What do you dispute about that data?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12898 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 04:01:46
July 22 2026 04:01 GMT
#117354
On July 22 2026 12:53 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 12:51 ETisME wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief.
Professors are meant to encourage students to present arguments / statements / data, and back it up with sources.
This has always been the case since junior school, and what education is about.

What do you dispute about that data?

Investments lead to more innovations across all products and services, including products we are using.
Hopefully we don't need a source for this?

>the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about
This is what happens when there's more economic activities, investments and research flowing into the sector.

We have more energy efficient AC system upto 40% cheaper to run compared to a decade ago, more energy efficient cars like EVs, more energy efficient mobile phones, fridges, batteries, infrastructure and building technologies.

But sure if people prefer to die from heatwaves, that's their stance, who am I to oppose.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3414 Posts
July 22 2026 04:01 GMT
#117355
On July 22 2026 12:51 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief


A professor of science is absolutely supposed to prevent people from promoting or defending factually wrong claims.

A professor of language/rhetoric might let you argue something factually wrong as some sort of intellectual exercise, but it would be grossly unethical if they let people promote harmful myths and pseudoscience in earnest.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5065 Posts
July 22 2026 04:05 GMT
#117356
On July 22 2026 11:35 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 10:38 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 09:48 Billyboy wrote:
On July 22 2026 09:34 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 08:36 Billyboy wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

Source?


For which part? How much do you know of Cold War era left-wing activism?

On July 22 2026 08:52 Jankisa wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.


Insane that neither of you guys will answer a simple question.

Also insane that you are basically going along with "communist infiltration" story. Amazing.


Joe Biden won. You need better gotchas.

The teachers being communists, or your definition of communists. Because it’s strange that the most right wing democracy around has this communist problem that none of the much more left wing European countries have.

Also, you lose all credibility when you call Biden a communist.


I didn't say the teachers are communists. I said many union leaders are lefties with sympathies for Cuba. We'd be totally screwed if the average teacher was like the union leaders.

Remember when, during COVID for example, the head the LA teachers union said that learning loss wasn't real, that it was OK that the students didn't know time tables because they knew oppression and "coup"? That's the sort of thing I'm talking about.

or things like this

https://x.com/CTULocal1/status/1971749649951142009?lang=en

Are we actually going to pretend teachers unions are led by normal center left liberals?

On July 22 2026 09:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 22 2026 07:32 Introvert wrote:
On July 22 2026 03:54 Jankisa wrote:
Yeah, isn't it fun that lil Marco has let his position as governor of Venezuela go to his head and is now living out his McCarthyism fantasies by declaring union organizers as Communist infiltrators.

Can't wait for arrests to start happening and for oBlade and Introvert to start explaining to all of us how all these communists that they haven't mentioned in 10 years are taking over the US and need to be dealt with.

By the way, guys, mostly oBlade because Introvert seems a tad less culty, who won the 2020 election? Asked 3 times now and still haven't gotten the answer.


I haven't read the report yet, though I hope to find the time. But Cuban/American left-wing crossover is not a secret or something unknown, and many union organizers are very left-wing and love the Cuban "system." Teachers unions in particular seem to have an affinity for that sort of crackpottery.

What exactly is the Cuban "system" that teachers/unions have an affinity for?


Same as the usual BS they all say, praising its education and healthcare system.

Edit: btw it's often framed as supporting Cuban union members or calling on the US to lift restrictions. Harder to find out and out praise for the Cuban regime as time has gone on. Fewer people gushing over the Castros. But there's no reason for a US union to take a position on a topic like that. Nevermind how, since so much over there is government run, it's not like you are finding actual free assocations of workers instead of state associations.


Saying something is good in another system with way lower reasources doesn’t make you a communist, it makes you able to look at things without bias. Certificate strange to call people who are likely not nearly as close to communism communist when you get so pissed at trump being called a fascist when he hits almost all the main features.

Out of curiosity you have always bristled at being called far right. What positions are right of yours? Feel free to pick abortion, or taxation, or whatever floats your boat.


I purposely have not used the word communist because I know when anyone does it leads to exactly what you are doing, which is arguing about the word more than anything else.

I'm not interested in this odd aside but I am a big fan of the American revolution and as an American conservative that's the thing I'm trying to conserve and adapt.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12898 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 04:07:41
July 22 2026 04:06 GMT
#117357
On July 22 2026 13:01 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 12:51 ETisME wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief


A professor of science is absolutely supposed to prevent people from promoting or defending factually wrong claims.

A professor of language/rhetoric might let you argue something factually wrong as some sort of intellectual exercise, but it would be grossly unethical if they let people promote harmful myths and pseudoscience in earnest.

You can't be serious.
this has been a topic of research and debate. Imagine you being a professor telling researchers they are doing pseudoscience. just get out
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3414 Posts
July 22 2026 04:11 GMT
#117358
On July 22 2026 13:06 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 13:01 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:51 ETisME wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief


A professor of science is absolutely supposed to prevent people from promoting or defending factually wrong claims.

A professor of language/rhetoric might let you argue something factually wrong as some sort of intellectual exercise, but it would be grossly unethical if they let people promote harmful myths and pseudoscience in earnest.

You can't be serious.
this has been a topic of research and debate. Imagine you being a professor telling researchers they are doing pseudoscience. just get out


In your opinion, should flat earthers, Holocaust deniers, and antivaxxers be allowed to obtain degrees in geology, history, and applied medicine, respectively, from an accredited university?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12898 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-22 04:17:04
July 22 2026 04:15 GMT
#117359
On July 22 2026 13:11 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 13:06 ETisME wrote:
On July 22 2026 13:01 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:51 ETisME wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief


A professor of science is absolutely supposed to prevent people from promoting or defending factually wrong claims.

A professor of language/rhetoric might let you argue something factually wrong as some sort of intellectual exercise, but it would be grossly unethical if they let people promote harmful myths and pseudoscience in earnest.

You can't be serious.
this has been a topic of research and debate. Imagine you being a professor telling researchers they are doing pseudoscience. just get out


In your opinion, should flat earthers, Holocaust deniers, and antivaxxers be allowed to obtain degrees in geology, history, and applied medicine, respectively, from an accredited university?

We literally using medicals derived from inhumane medical research conducted by Japanese imperial soldiers on humans, do you think the researchers are wrong because they are Japanese imperial soliders?

There were researchers against mask wearing in WHO questioning their effectiveness during early COVID too, do you want to brand them anti masker and stop them practicing medicals?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12059 Posts
July 22 2026 04:19 GMT
#117360
On July 22 2026 13:15 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2026 13:11 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 13:06 ETisME wrote:
On July 22 2026 13:01 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:51 ETisME wrote:
On July 22 2026 12:33 LightSpectra wrote:
On July 22 2026 11:10 ETisME wrote:
I distinctively remembering in one of my final's assignments, I wrote about prioritizing economic growth over concerns in climate change, arguing about we need the growth to fund and build tools to adapt and solve climate change.
I got multiple review sessions from the tutor to suggest me to find another topic to write about.

Look at where we are at now, China got the growth, the manufacturing, the tech to do so.


Your professor was 100% correct. Climate adaptation technology isn't going to do jack shit in a world with runaway global warming. And while the exponential growth of solar manufacturing in China is the one thing we can be positive about, every other industry is overwhelmingly behind hitting their 2⁰C targets.

The USA picked growth over mitigation and we haven't gotten anything for it except fossil fuel executives quadrupling their wealth.

Right wing/conservative views are always going to be harder to be taught, especially with moral blackmail is easier to throw around. (Oh you think we shouldn't save immigrates? Or USAID cut is killing billions, you think human lives are worth less than money?)


You should look up the reason USAID exists. Saving millions of lives is almost an unintentional side effect. It exists for soft power and a subsidy to American farmers who now need a bailout. You don't really sound like you know what you're talking about.

Professors aren't meant to mark papers based on their belief


A professor of science is absolutely supposed to prevent people from promoting or defending factually wrong claims.

A professor of language/rhetoric might let you argue something factually wrong as some sort of intellectual exercise, but it would be grossly unethical if they let people promote harmful myths and pseudoscience in earnest.

You can't be serious.
this has been a topic of research and debate. Imagine you being a professor telling researchers they are doing pseudoscience. just get out


In your opinion, should flat earthers, Holocaust deniers, and antivaxxers be allowed to obtain degrees in geology, history, and applied medicine, respectively, from an accredited university?

We literally using medicals derived from inhumane medical research conducted by Japanese imperial soldiers on humans, do you think the researchers are wrong because they are Japanese imperial soliders?

There were researchers against mask wearing in WHO questioning their effectiveness during early COVID too, do you want to brand them anti masker and stop them practicing medicals?


You didn't answer the question. You just deflected to something else.
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