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pmh
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Jankisa
Croatia1171 Posts
Trump's base doesn't give a fuck about his corruption because they see it as "anyone would and does do it in his position, he's just being smart and honest". They do, however, give some fucks about him being involved and part of Epstein class, people are in jail or were suicided over them soliciting underage girls to these people. From everything verifiable that came out of the files and adjecent reporting it's pretty obvious that Trump participated in these activities and was a friend with Epstein. The people doing the burying here are folks like you and dynb who are trying to pretend like this is a new "russiagate", it's an age old tactic and I guess right wingers think that if you yell enough about it, it might go away or you can pretend like it's a "hoax". It's not. If you don't want to talk about it and want to discuss Trump's corruption, we are all for it, feel free to ignore the Epstein posts, and sincerely, go fuck yourself with "I hope he gets a 3rd term". EDIT: PMH edited his post that ended with him wishing for Trump's 3rd term because he doesn't like that people are focusing on Trump raping kids. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45300 Posts
On February 25 2026 00:59 dyhb wrote: Your defense of child molesters is duly noted, and your interest in ranking them (e.g., Diddy > Trump yesterday) is bizarre. That being said, if you want to share your tier list of your favorite pedophiles, just do it and then be on your way. I initially thought the Epstein files contained new and worse revelations of perversion based on the way it was talked about, but I understand that was just misunderstanding very colloquial uses of words. I'm trying to follow the story beyond the hype. The most salacious stuff didn't stand up to the light, but that doesn't mean some future disclosures or reporting actually delivers the goods. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45300 Posts
On February 25 2026 02:35 Jankisa wrote: Trump's base doesn't give a fuck about his corruption because they see it as "anyone would and does do it in his position, he's just being smart and honest". They do, however, give some fucks about him being involved and part of Epstein class, people are in jail or were suicided over them soliciting underage girls to these people. Eh, I don't think so. MAGA has consistently proven they don't care about children with nearly all of their platforms: anti-education; anti-healthcare; anti-vaccine; abstinence-only instruction; against funding school meals and public schools; climate change denial; attacking anyone of any age who isn't a white, Christian, straight, cis-gendered male; supporting a child molester for president; and fabricating fake issues to "protect" kids from (like how books about gay couples turn kids gay, or how people in drag prey on students). I have no doubt that MAGA doesn't actually care about kids being raped (unless it's their own kids). | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2161 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45300 Posts
On February 25 2026 03:06 LightSpectra wrote: But your two MAGA relatives didn't care that he ogled and preyed on kids - and bragged about it - even before he ran for president the first time? It seems very convenient to ignore Trump's history of sexual harassment and abuse when he's still running for president, but now your relatives suddenly "care" as soon as Trump presumably can't have any additional terms / future presidential elections. I have two MAGA relatives who voted for Trump three times and finally wavered on their support when he broke his promise to release the Epstein files. Obviously that's an anecdote and shouldn't be extrapolated into data, and they might just get over it in the future, but at least some of them are being shaken by this in a way no previous scandal even dented their faith. | ||
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oBlade
United States5902 Posts
On February 25 2026 00:05 Manit0u wrote: Starting from riches and remaining rich is not really successful though. Trump managed to bankrupt casinos multiple times and had to be bailed out by his father and others. Being able to put his name on buildings like hotels was also something out of his reach until Russians made it happen as a gift to him to coerce him. Pretty much every business this guy touches goes to shit. All the great "deals" he makes are mostly just shady stuff on how people can bribe him to do stuff for them. Dude is not smart, he's not business savvy, he has no class. He got rich on being bribed by various parties to do their bidding and all kinds of scams. You also think Musk failed upwards. Who is a good, nice, virtuous successful billionaire businessman? Examples. I have a hard time believing if Trump had as high a net worth as Peter Thiel, Larry Ellison, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, rather than his measly failed single digit billions, that he'd have your respect for his business acumen. Just a hollow-ringing criticism. | ||
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dyhb
United States141 Posts
On February 25 2026 02:18 decafchicken wrote: Ideally, the next Democratic Congress brings impeachment proceedings for failing to disclose these documents.Are the epstein files a bust or is the DOJ is protecting Trump by redacting and illegally withholding files. https://www.npr.org/2026/02/24/nx-s1-5723968/epstein-files-trump-accusation-maxwell On February 25 2026 02:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: As in my previous posts, I’m uninterested in people that either lie or display their ignorance of the facts, confident that anybody who calls them out can be smeared as a defender of Trump or defender of child molesters. It’s an old and lame trick for debatelords and internet trolls that I’ve wasted too much time in my life humoring. If you want to engage substantively on the topic, I’m quite willing to re-engage, but you’ll have to post on substance and stay away from the ad hominem asides. Your defense of child molesters is duly noted, and your interest in ranking them (e.g., Diddy > Trump yesterday) is bizarre. That being said, if you want to share your tier list of your favorite pedophiles, just do it and then be on your way. | ||
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pmh
1414 Posts
On February 25 2026 02:35 Jankisa wrote: People can talk about multiple things at the same time. Trump's base doesn't give a fuck about his corruption because they see it as "anyone would and does do it in his position, he's just https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/643495-acs-replaced-by-asl-season-open-starts-21-02being smart and honest". They do, however, give some fucks about him being involved and part of Epstein class, people are in jail or were suicided over them soliciting underage girls to these people. From everything verifiable that came out of the files and adjecent reporting it's pretty obvious that Trump participated in these activities and was a friend with Epstein. The people doing the burying here are folks like you and dynb who are trying to pretend like this is a new "russiagate", it's an age old tactic and I guess right wingers think that if you yell enough about it, it might go away or you can pretend like it's a "hoax". It's not. If you don't want to talk about it and want to discuss Trump's corruption, we are all for it, feel free to ignore the Epstein posts, and sincerely, go fuck yourself with "I hope he gets a 3rd term". EDIT: PMH edited his post that ended with him wishing for Trump's 3rd term because he doesn't like that people are focusing on Trump raping kids. You very much misrepresent my post but i guess thats the only way to try make a point. Still i should not have removed my post so this is on me. Now i do hope Trump gets a 3rd term because i think its the only way forward. Its going to be a long process. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5757 Posts
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LightSpectra
United States2161 Posts
On February 25 2026 03:24 dyhb wrote: Ideally, the next Democratic Congress brings impeachment proceedings for failing to disclose these documents. Ideally the current Congress does, unless you're accepting that Republicans holding child molesters accountable is so absurd that it's not even something idealists would dream of. | ||
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pmh
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KwarK
United States43608 Posts
On February 25 2026 03:17 oBlade wrote: You also think Musk failed upwards. Who is a good, nice, virtuous successful billionaire businessman? Examples. I have a hard time believing if Trump had as high a net worth as Peter Thiel, Larry Ellison, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, rather than his measly failed single digit billions, that he'd have your respect for his business acumen. Just a hollow-ringing criticism. “I can’t respond to the argument you made about Trump doing worse than passive investing but what I can do is come up with another argument that you didn’t make and then respond to that.” It’s really not that hard to say “yeah, Trump’s many business ventures generally underperformed over the years, but business acumen isn’t why I simp for him”. | ||
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dyhb
United States141 Posts
On February 25 2026 03:41 LightSpectra wrote: I think you meant to say whether the current Congress would hold a vote on impeachment over non-disclosure of responsive documents, however redacted, unless you have personal knowledge of child molestation. I recommend you go to a news outlet instead of an internet gaming forum. Ideally the current Congress does, unless you're accepting that Republicans holding child molesters accountable is so absurd that it's not even something idealists would dream of. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2161 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7985 Posts
Now he is not allowed to meet any member of the French government. The clown show continues. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26271 Posts
On February 25 2026 03:27 pmh wrote: You very much misrepresent my post but i guess thats the only way to try make a point. Still i should not have removed my post so this is on me. Now i do hope Trump gets a 3rd term because i think it’s the only way forward. It’s going to be a long process. Can you explain your working on this? The only way? My house may be a bit messy and I’m delaying a much-needed clean, but I wouldn’t consider the only solution to this smearing my faeces on the walls in the hope it motivates me to clean up | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1171 Posts
On February 25 2026 03:27 pmh wrote: You very much misrepresent my post but i guess thats the only way to try make a point. Still i should not have removed my post so this is on me. Now i do hope Trump gets a 3rd term because i think its the only way forward. Its going to be a long process. You deleted your post, please feel free to re-instate it and make me look a fool if you feel I misinterpreted you. Your issue is that Americans are dumb for "falling" for Epstein files when there is other shit going on and that's why you hope Trump gets a 3rd term. I'm not sure if you are American, but I, as an European think that having another 4 years of Trump doing whatever the fuck he wants, including arbitrarily putting an embargo and trying to squeeze the life out of Cuba is fucking catastrophic. I think that as AI matures and the world economy shifts the person who is uniquely positioned to make this planet a living hell being in charge of the most powerful military and the most distributive technology is a horrible fucking idea. You are a child. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2161 Posts
On February 25 2026 03:43 pmh wrote: I dunno what comes next. What has to move forward again is the process. The process beeing stuck is bad for everyone and everything in the long run. I can't even parse what you're attempting to say. What could be more "stuck" than the incumbent getting another term in office? Like, why don't we move forward by trying something new instead of another four years of far-right policy? | ||
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