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On February 24 2026 09:33 dyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2026 09:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Fawning over, ogling, harassing, abusing, and raping children might *technically* not be called pedophilia - depending on how young the kids are - but ... but continuing to do so regardless of how young the kids are is dumb and wrong and benefits actual criminal pedophiles. There are Diddys (allegations/lawsuits) in this world, but not every sex abuser and sex harasser and skeevy middle-aged man is a Diddy.
What the hell is this relative-to-Diddy moral standard? That's not where the bar is set. Trump is a piece of shit who sexually assaulted children and adults, and he committed a hundred other crimes, full stop. Our standard here is not better-or-worse-than-Hitler, and I just said: the label doesn't dismiss all the ethical problems one should have with Trump's sexual harassment, sexual assault, and child molestation.
Do you know what actually benefits and emboldens child molesters? The fact that we elected one to be president. Twice.
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On February 24 2026 09:48 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
Is this guy Blackace, these are the exact same pedantic debatelord semantic arguments that no normal person would ever make. Even lives in California.
Never met someone who chose that as their hill to die on that didn't need their hard drive investigated by the FBI.
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On February 24 2026 09:42 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2026 08:27 dyhb wrote:
The new definition for pedophile is talking and acting lasciviously about or around teenage girls? I live in California, and we have special punishments for sexual crimes against victims younger than 14 and victims 10 and younger. So if you're just confirming that this is the same moral turpitude we always knew about, then continue talking exactly as you have. I don't want to spare the extra depraved their due consequence just because you have some masturbatory fixation in calling Trump a pedo. It's incredibly creepy that you are making these distinctions as if they make anything better, for fucks sake Trump was born in 1946 if he ever touched any girls under 18 trafficked to him by Epstein, and there is an incredible amount of circumstantial evidence around that despite his DOJ has spending 6 months covering any of firm evidence up, he should be thrown away forever. Fucking hell, "moral turpitude", you are so weird.
In before "sure he raped kids, but it might technically not be pedophilia because do we even know if Trump was truly sexually attracted to them? he could have just been bored."
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On February 24 2026 09:54 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2026 09:48 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
Is this guy Blackace, these are the exact same pedantic debatelord semantic arguments that no normal person would ever make. Even lives in California. Never met someone who chose that as their hill to die on that didn't need their hard drive investigated by the FBI.
I don’t think you’d find anything in that hard drive, he’s just one of those pedantic debatelords. They’re not really there to achieve anything but to rile people up and win internet arguments when people ultimately get bored of them.
The California mention has me fairly convinced he’s just Blackace, a pedantic debatelord that would occasionally throw shade at the state he lives in and hyperfocus on specific words and terms. To the point he would always derail forum discussions for entire pages because we have to argue about the angle of Elon Musk’s arm, as if that was the only proof the man is incredibly sympathetic towards fascist ideology and white supremacy. Same deal here with the “um ackchyually it’s technically not rape and pedophilia” stance the guy takes.
It’s why half the time I type up a response then just delete it because what is the point even talking to half of these people if there is nothing to be gained from the process.
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I know an English lit professor that gets testy over people misusing words like "literally" or "biannually". If that guy corrected me on saying "pedophile" when "ephebophile" is more correct I'd be fine with it since at least he's established himself as someone concerned with technical precision.
Someone who only becomes a grammar Nazi when it's in defense of a sexual abuser is more likely just an actual Nazi.
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On February 24 2026 09:42 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2026 08:27 dyhb wrote:
The new definition for pedophile is talking and acting lasciviously about or around teenage girls? I live in California, and we have special punishments for sexual crimes against victims younger than 14 and victims 10 and younger. So if you're just confirming that this is the same moral turpitude we always knew about, then continue talking exactly as you have. I don't want to spare the extra depraved their due consequence just because you have some masturbatory fixation in calling Trump a pedo. It's incredibly creepy that you are making these distinctions as if they make anything better, for fucks sake Trump was born in 1946 if he ever touched any girls under 18 trafficked to him by Epstein, and there is an incredible amount of circumstantial evidence around that despite his DOJ has spending 6 months covering any of firm evidence up, he should be thrown away forever. Fucking hell, "moral turpitude", you are so weird. It's incredibly weird that you think Trump must shoot to moral rectitude just because he isn't a pedo. We can just simply be accurate about politics regardless of the figure involved.
On February 24 2026 10:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I know an English lit professor that gets testy over people misusing words like "literally" or "biannually". If that guy corrected me on saying "pedophile" when "ephebophile" is more correct I'd be fine with it since at least he's established himself as someone concerned with technical precision.
Someone who only becomes a grammar Nazi when it's in defense of a sexual abuser is more likely just an actual Nazi. It explains so much that one has to establish oneself to your satisfaction of being a good person before you use pedophiles for the worst of the worst. I just treat strangers on the internet with some indifference to their secret, internal motivations, since I don't claim to have such crystal balls to which people are secretly actual Nazis on the internet.
On February 24 2026 09:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2026 09:33 dyhb wrote:On February 24 2026 09:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Fawning over, ogling, harassing, abusing, and raping children might *technically* not be called pedophilia - depending on how young the kids are - but ... but continuing to do so regardless of how young the kids are is dumb and wrong and benefits actual criminal pedophiles. There are Diddys (allegations/lawsuits) in this world, but not every sex abuser and sex harasser and skeevy middle-aged man is a Diddy. What the hell is this relative-to-Diddy moral standard? That's not where the bar is set. Trump is a piece of shit who sexually assaulted children and adults, and he committed a hundred other crimes, full stop. Our standard here is not better-or-worse-than-Hitler, and I just said: the label doesn't dismiss all the ethical problems one should have with Trump's sexual harassment, sexual assault, and child molestation. Do you know what actually benefits and emboldens child molesters? The fact that we elected one to be president. Twice. I think society should reserve an extra level of scorn for the morally depraved people that mess with elementary school children, and I'm a little disgusted to hear you argue otherwise.
That's all. It's a little weird to deflect to either
(1) [Poster] really wants to call Trump a pedo, and it's [Not Poster] problem if they don't recognize it
(2) We have laws setting different penalties for the most heinous crimes, but I'm going to say 0 things about that but 20 things about how only bad people bring that up and you must be in it to make Trump morally better.
I get that there's a lot of debatelords on here that have to smear the arguer, so I'll drop it if there's absolutely zero substantial disagreements with me on the substance. There's probably no pedophilia in the Epstein files, simply because people here jump to claims of sexual misbehavior when I ask about it. There's a lot of rich people who should know better than accept invites and email Epstein, and calling them pedos is a dopamine hit and fights Trump.
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On February 24 2026 08:27 dyhb wrote:
It explains so much that one has to establish oneself to your satisfaction of being a good person before you use pedophiles for the worst of the worst. I just treat strangers on the internet with some indifference to their secret, internal motivations, since I don't claim to have such crystal balls to which people are secretly actual Nazis on the internet.
You're not doing a good job of keeping it secret.
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I feel my brain is melting away, is anyone else similarly afflicted?
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Semantics on the topic are important in the clinical and legal context.
The hard age limit of 18 in the US probably is supposed to serve as some kind of deterrent because of its massive porn industry (just guessing that it is the reason) but tends to be softer in some other countries.
Usually there‘s a tolerance range of two years difference under 16 and under certain circumstances that require consent obviously, there‘s possible tolerance starting from 16. My first relationship was in the sub16 range which might have been dangerous if I lived in the US.
I think the Russian connection regarding Epstein (apparently he hired Russians on the farm and some of them provided services) is another troubling aspect because it exposes some entities in the US keeping their options open to a collaboration which doesn‘t resonate well with the allies it claims to have.
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