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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24102 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-23 20:33:15
February 23 2026 19:49 GMT
#110281
On February 24 2026 03:46 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2026 03:27 WombaT wrote:
It’s mental to me that thus far the only people seemingly facing real censure for these files are a British politician and a member of the British royal family.


There will also be plenty of new conspiracy theories and everything. Supposedly someone found in the files that Israel has had a hand in princess Diana's assassination to cover up for Epstein.

Maybe that's the strategy of the current admin. Ignore the files until there's so much wild rumors and accusations flying around that it'll be next to impossible to tell truth from lies and you can then sweep uncomfortable things under the conspiracy theory umbrella etc.

Sorta.

I believe it's kinda obvious why fascists would want their ostensible opposition constantly chasing their tails with endless mocking and gawking instead of actually strategizing on/organizing around how to stop them and/or fix the system.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44171 Posts
February 23 2026 19:54 GMT
#110282
We can't all be as productive as you GH, else nothing would ever get done.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2816 Posts
February 23 2026 20:00 GMT
#110283
One day, the Rapture Revolution will come, and those who kept the faith didn't mock and gawk will be rewarded by the Lord Jesus the vanguard party, for by their fruits TeamLiquid forum posts they shall be judged.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1433 Posts
February 23 2026 20:02 GMT
#110284
Oh, that is absolutely the strategy.

Flood the zone, let the anti-Semites spin their conspiracies up, let the Q-ANON morons find satanic shit and pizza references, drip in and try to sell it as a big reveal that Trump, then president, when they arrested Epstein in 2019 called the FBI tip line saying this guy is no good and let me know if you need help and a bunch of other shit, then have specific influences focus on specific parts of those so that dominates the conversation.

In the meantime Epstein, Bannon and Chomsky are chatting about his PR strategy or the right-wing takeover of the world, or Kotick and Epstein are shooting shit about micro-transactions and selling games to kids.

I could, of course, go on, but what's the point, in the USA legal system is not interested in you if you are rich, so we all know nothing will come out of this, even under a potential next Democratic president because anyone who'd be willing to go after these people will be drowned in a river of shit powered by infinite money.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
February 23 2026 20:13 GMT
#110285
On February 24 2026 05:00 LightSpectra wrote:
One day, the Rapture Revolution will come, and those who kept the faith didn't mock and gawk will be rewarded by the Lord Jesus the vanguard party, for by their fruits TeamLiquid forum posts they shall be judged.


o_O

It‘d be enough to know for sure what the US elected this time and what kind of people it is that are driving technological progress because it seems incredibly obscure and one-sided.

Maybe not blow up the planet in the progress and drown it in wars and threats so one can enjoy their time a little on it.

Chomsky honestly was a surprise as I found his warnings against the use of propaganda displaying quite a bit of foresight, but I guess he got pulled in ? Dead men tell no tales, anyways.

If it were anyone other than Andrew that far deep into the matter and/or if the US were seriously investigating the matter, they‘d have asked for his extradition asap.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24102 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-23 20:33:29
February 23 2026 20:19 GMT
#110286
On February 24 2026 05:02 Jankisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2026 04:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 24 2026 03:46 Manit0u wrote:
On February 24 2026 03:27 WombaT wrote:
It’s mental to me that thus far the only people seemingly facing real censure for these files are a British politician and a member of the British royal family.


There will also be plenty of new conspiracy theories and everything. Supposedly someone found in the files that Israel has had a hand in princess Diana's assassination to cover up for Epstein.

Maybe that's the strategy of the current admin. Ignore the files until there's so much wild rumors and accusations flying around that it'll be next to impossible to tell truth from lies and you can then sweep uncomfortable things under the conspiracy theory umbrella etc.

Sorta.

I believe it's kinda obvious why fascists would want their ostensible opposition constantly chasing their tails with endless mocking and gawking instead of actually strategizing on/organizing around how to stop them and/or fix the system.


Oh, that is absolutely the strategy.
+ Show Spoiler +

Flood the zone, let the anti-Semites spin their conspiracies up, let the Q-ANON morons find satanic shit and pizza references, drip in and try to sell it as a big reveal that Trump, then president, when they arrested Epstein in 2019 called the FBI tip line saying this guy is no good and let me know if you need help and a bunch of other shit, then have specific influences focus on specific parts of those so that dominates the conversation.

In the meantime Epstein, Bannon and Chomsky are chatting about his PR strategy or the right-wing takeover of the world, or Kotick and Epstein are shooting shit about micro-transactions and selling games to kids.


I could, of course, go on, but what's the point, in the USA legal system is not interested in you if you are rich, so we all know nothing will come out of this, even under a potential next Democratic president because anyone who'd be willing to go after these people will be drowned in a river of shit powered by infinite money.


It works. Obama with the banks and Bush/torture/domestic spying was an eye opening moment for me. It also helped lay the foundations for fascism/fascists like Trump/Project 2025 to pick up where they left off.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States455 Posts
February 23 2026 20:56 GMT
#110287
On February 24 2026 04:06 LightSpectra wrote:
Lol, it's the same strategy that oBlade and dyhb are using. It doesn't matter how many credible accusations there are, they found one or two that's outlandish and that means all the thousands of files that Trump literally campaigned on releasing before threatening Congress for trying to force them released are worthless.
Just so people like you stop quoting and citing outlandish claims, to display a little common sense. The released files are full of cranks filing false tips with the FBI. They include lawsuits that were thrown out by a judge or dropped. Citing both is stupid, as is retreating to a weird position that the ones you aren’t citing are lended extra legitimacy by the trash you are.

The most credible I’ve seen recently are sensitive information and financial impropriety. They’re a mile away from alleged pedo rings and trafficking girls as a service to others. But the documents and finance crimes aren’t as sexy of topics as billionaire pedos escaping justice, so I continue to find the most fantastic claims get the most play here and in other places online.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2816 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-23 21:03:38
February 23 2026 21:03 GMT
#110288
You, of course, are a wonderfully impartial judge of what's legitimate or trash, since an actual court of law finding Trump to have raped someone is still not too low a bar for you to limbo beneath.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States455 Posts
February 23 2026 22:17 GMT
#110289
Deflection and goalpost-moving. You know my post is correct on the substance, so you write vague smears about me and pivot back to E Jean Carroll.

You brought up some trash Epstein documents claims and now you imply that there's magically better ones around that are more legitimate by your citation of the worst of them.

Sorry, post what you want to say about specific claims so they can be examined, and stop returning to ad hominem when you come up short. I've got to go back to what I've seen shown about Epstein, namely the trial for sex trafficking for his own benefit, and the lack of morals among celebrities and scientists for associating with him and traveling to his island after discovering his obviously minor girl companions.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2816 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-23 22:32:29
February 23 2026 22:28 GMT
#110290
"Trash claims" that adjudicated rapist Donald Trump campaigned on releasing in 2024 and then publicly threatened sitting congressmen in 2025 for trying to release when he didn't. To say nothing of bragging about liking girls as young as Epstein, and walking in the changing rooms of underage beauty pageant contestants, and talking about wanting to fuck his own daughter, and literally buying a woman from Epstein, and doodling a pubescent girl on a birthday wish to Epstein, and appointing the man responsible for Epstein's sweetheart deal to the United States cabinet, et al.

The absolute best case scenario is that he pretends to be a pedophile on TV to win the support of actual child abusers. Of course even that falls apart when half the things mentioned above weren't meant to be public knowledge.

You're not right about anything, you just play dumb because you're hoping people dumber than you are will fall for it. Unfortunately you're the bottom feeder in this case.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44171 Posts
February 23 2026 23:02 GMT
#110291
Trump openly and without prompting describes himself as the kind of man to do what he is accused of doing. Why don’t you believe him?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States455 Posts
February 23 2026 23:27 GMT
#110292
On February 24 2026 07:28 LightSpectra wrote:
"Trash claims" that adjudicated rapist
If you're going to use "adjudicated" then you have to go with what the jury said: not liable for rape, liable for sexual abuse. Judges don't get to decide the case or change the law by their speech. When I brought up the case last time, in hopes of correcting your false knowledge, you falsely stated that civil cases decide guilt, and failed to state for the record whether or not Trump was also accused of rape under New York's civil laws. If you wish to correct your previous false statements, and acknowledge all aspects of the case, please do so at your convenience.

But bringing up E Jean Carroll was a means of distracting from false implications of the Epstein files, so I don't expect you to follow up on that.

Donald Trump campaigned on releasing in 2024 and then publicly threatened sitting congressmen in 2025 for trying to release when he didn't. To say nothing of bragging about liking girls as young as Epstein, and walking in the changing rooms of underage beauty pageant contestants, and talking about wanting to fuck his own daughter, and literally buying a woman from Epstein, and doodling a pubescent girl on a birthday wish to Epstein, and appointing the man responsible for Epstein's sweetheart deal to the United States cabinet, et al.
I'm seeing a lot of stuff about moral character that also seems to be stuff we already know about moral character. If you're trying to tell me that the Epstein files told us nothing more about Trump's character than we already gleaned from the Billy Bush tape and his Howard Stern thing about Miss Teen USA, then I wonder where your argument went.

The absolute best case scenario is that he pretends to be a pedophile on TV
The new definition for pedophile is talking and acting lasciviously about or around teenage girls? I live in California, and we have special punishments for sexual crimes against victims younger than 14 and victims 10 and younger. So if you're just confirming that this is the same moral turpitude we always knew about, then continue talking exactly as you have. I don't want to spare the extra depraved their due consequence just because you have some masturbatory fixation in calling Trump a pedo.
Hat Trick of Today
Profile Joined February 2025
201 Posts
February 23 2026 23:40 GMT
#110293
Jesus fucking Christ, an “ummm it’s ephebophilia actually” argument in 2026.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2816 Posts
February 23 2026 23:45 GMT
#110294
"He's technically not a rapist because raping someone with your fingers and not your penis is sexual abuse in New York law" still makes him human garbage, and so are you for continually defending him.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
February 23 2026 23:46 GMT
#110295
State of the union tomorrow. Its going to be great i cant wait.
There wont be any surprises. It will be the exact same things said in the exact same way as he always does boosting about his presidency.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States455 Posts
February 24 2026 00:12 GMT
#110296
On February 24 2026 08:45 LightSpectra wrote:
"He's technically not a rapist because raping someone with your fingers and not your penis is sexual abuse in New York law" still makes him human garbage, and so are you for continually defending him.
It should be easy to avoid saying adjudicated. Go correct your previous false statements and issue some true ones.

On February 24 2026 08:40 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ, an “ummm it’s ephebophilia actually” argument in 2026.
I like the extra-special punishment for pedophiles that act on their urges, but in the name of getting Trump, you're losing that weapon in popular media. We have an entire English vocabulary of sexual harassment, sexual abuse, statutory rape, lascivious behavior, lewd conduct, inappropriate, lustful, perverted, and skeevy. A billionaire pedo ring with zero pedophilia and pedophilic acts and tons of inappropriate behavior and moral wrong (in Epstein's case, statutory rape, but as regards others) makes me wonder how we're even speaking the same language and understanding each other.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46176 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-24 00:30:22
February 24 2026 00:25 GMT
#110297
On February 24 2026 08:40 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ, an “ummm it’s ephebophilia actually” argument in 2026.

Yeah seriously, it's one of the dumbest "opportunities" for a semantics argument. Fawning over, ogling, harassing, abusing, and raping children might *technically* not be called pedophilia - depending on how young the kids are - but the label doesn't dismiss all the ethical problems one should have with Trump's sexual harassment, sexual assault, and child molestation.

And we know the goalpost-moving wouldn't even stop there. If Trump raped a six year old, MAGA would be saying "at least the child wasn't five".

The fact that MAGA doesn't understand gender or sex labels, but will go above and beyond to classify different stages of kids that are all still underage and still can't consent, is telling.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States455 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-24 00:34:11
February 24 2026 00:33 GMT
#110298
On February 24 2026 09:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Fawning over, ogling, harassing, abusing, and raping children might *technically* not be called pedophilia - depending on how young the kids are - but
... but continuing to do so regardless of how young the kids are is dumb and wrong and benefits actual criminal pedophiles. There are Diddys (allegations/lawsuits) in this world, but not every sex abuser and sex harasser and skeevy middle-aged man is a Diddy.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1433 Posts
February 24 2026 00:42 GMT
#110299
On February 24 2026 08:27 dyhb wrote:
The new definition for pedophile is talking and acting lasciviously about or around teenage girls? I live in California, and we have special punishments for sexual crimes against victims younger than 14 and victims 10 and younger. So if you're just confirming that this is the same moral turpitude we always knew about, then continue talking exactly as you have. I don't want to spare the extra depraved their due consequence just because you have some masturbatory fixation in calling Trump a pedo.


It's incredibly creepy that you are making these distinctions as if they make anything better, for fucks sake Trump was born in 1946 if he ever touched any girls under 18 trafficked to him by Epstein, and there is an incredible amount of circumstantial evidence around that despite his DOJ has spending 6 months covering any of firm evidence up, he should be thrown away forever.

Fucking hell, "moral turpitude", you are so weird.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Hat Trick of Today
Profile Joined February 2025
201 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-24 00:49:49
February 24 2026 00:48 GMT
#110300
Is this guy Blackace, these are the exact same pedantic debatelord semantic arguments that no normal person would ever make. Even lives in California.
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