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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgql2qzkz5zo
Trump's former national security adviser, John Bolton, is being indicted on charges relating to improper handling of classified information.
This feels like more of Trump's "pot calling the kettle black" routine, and I'm sure it has nothing to do with John Bolton being a vocal critic of Trump in recent years.
Criticise the dear leader?
Straight to jail!
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yeah, John Bolton is a really nice guy. You can find many people here defending him in the past and hopefully in the future to come. the JB hill is the one I'd die on for sure :D
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On October 17 2025 16:31 Taelshin wrote: yeah, John Bolton is a really nice guy. You can find many people here defending him in the past and hopefully in the future to come. the JB hill is the one I'd die on for sure :D I don't know where you got the impression that I'm defending the guy.
I just find the multitude of ironies delicious.
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On one side it's nice to see these asshats get some.
On the other side it's terrifying that this is obviously done due to Bolton not licking Trumps ass enough.
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On October 17 2025 16:31 Taelshin wrote: yeah, John Bolton is a really nice guy. You can find many people here defending him in the past and hopefully in the future to come. the JB hill is the one I'd die on for sure :D I can dislike someone and still not wish for them to be prosecuted just because they didn't deepthroat the supreme leaders dick hard enough. Doesn't matter if they are Comey or Bolton.
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On October 17 2025 08:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:It's super scummy that Cuomo is running as an independent, which could theoretically be a spoiler candidate for the Democratic nominee, Mamdani. Democrats fear progressives replacing them more then they fear Republicans winning. Nothing new.
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Nah it’s impossible to have some sort of basic universal standard. It always has to be the home vs the away team, and there is no area (gray or otherwise) in between. If you poke fun at Bolton getting (the very obvious) hard end of the stick now that means you must be a hypocrite since Bolton used to be team Trump
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On October 17 2025 18:08 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2025 08:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:It's super scummy that Cuomo is running as an independent, which could theoretically be a spoiler candidate for the Democratic nominee, Mamdani. Democrats fear progressives replacing them more then they fear Republicans winning. Nothing new.
This is just bullshit.
I'm not informed enough about this, but is the DNC doing anything about this at all? As in, are they running ads for Mamdani and shitting on Cuomo, or what's the deal here?
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On October 17 2025 18:52 EnDeR_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2025 18:08 Gorsameth wrote:On October 17 2025 08:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:It's super scummy that Cuomo is running as an independent, which could theoretically be a spoiler candidate for the Democratic nominee, Mamdani. Democrats fear progressives replacing them more then they fear Republicans winning. Nothing new. This is just bullshit. I'm not informed enough about this, but is the DNC doing anything about this at all? As in, are they running ads for Mamdani and shitting on Cuomo, or what's the deal here?
I'm not sure if the DNC is saying/doing anything at all, in which case it could be seen as tactic approval of Cuomo trying to undermine Mamdani for the sake of perpetuating the establishment.
I did just read about this though: "In United States politics, a sore loser law is a law prohibiting the loser in a primary election from then running as an independent or representing another political party in the general election, thus basically blocking them from appearing on the general election ballot (though sometimes they may still run as a write-in candidate).[1][2] Some states accomplish the same goal by having simultaneous registration dates for the primary and the general election. Only the states of Connecticut and New York have neither a sore loser law nor simultaneous registration deadlines.[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sore_loser_law
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On October 17 2025 19:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2025 18:52 EnDeR_ wrote:On October 17 2025 18:08 Gorsameth wrote:On October 17 2025 08:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:It's super scummy that Cuomo is running as an independent, which could theoretically be a spoiler candidate for the Democratic nominee, Mamdani. Democrats fear progressives replacing them more then they fear Republicans winning. Nothing new. This is just bullshit. I'm not informed enough about this, but is the DNC doing anything about this at all? As in, are they running ads for Mamdani and shitting on Cuomo, or what's the deal here? I'm not sure if the DNC is saying/doing anything at all, in which case it could be seen as tactic approval of Cuomo trying to undermine Mamdani for the sake of perpetuating the establishment. I did just read about this though: "In United States politics, a sore loser law is a law prohibiting the loser in a primary election from then running as an independent or representing another political party in the general election, thus basically blocking them from appearing on the general election ballot (though sometimes they may still run as a write-in candidate).[1][2] Some states accomplish the same goal by having simultaneous registration dates for the primary and the general election. Only the states of Connecticut and New York have neither a sore loser law nor simultaneous registration deadlines.[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sore_loser_law
That kind of law is baffling. If a very popular candidate were manoeuvred out by the party, they could not force a challenge in the same election. This hinders changing political parties. If you try to go through the in-party process for the change, you are forced to wait years for the next one in case that party plays dirty. If you run outside the party, you are easily labelled as a useful idiot who is acting as a spoiler. Parties are, of course, allowed to kick people out for running as independents and block funding. However, I honestly believe that the threat of a popular candidate splitting from the party is the only way the two parties will change. Especially in situations where the party has a very large tent and is willing to ignore people because they have no other options.
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On October 17 2025 20:30 Legan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2025 19:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On October 17 2025 18:52 EnDeR_ wrote:On October 17 2025 18:08 Gorsameth wrote:On October 17 2025 08:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:It's super scummy that Cuomo is running as an independent, which could theoretically be a spoiler candidate for the Democratic nominee, Mamdani. Democrats fear progressives replacing them more then they fear Republicans winning. Nothing new. This is just bullshit. I'm not informed enough about this, but is the DNC doing anything about this at all? As in, are they running ads for Mamdani and shitting on Cuomo, or what's the deal here? I'm not sure if the DNC is saying/doing anything at all, in which case it could be seen as tactic approval of Cuomo trying to undermine Mamdani for the sake of perpetuating the establishment. I did just read about this though: "In United States politics, a sore loser law is a law prohibiting the loser in a primary election from then running as an independent or representing another political party in the general election, thus basically blocking them from appearing on the general election ballot (though sometimes they may still run as a write-in candidate).[1][2] Some states accomplish the same goal by having simultaneous registration dates for the primary and the general election. Only the states of Connecticut and New York have neither a sore loser law nor simultaneous registration deadlines.[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sore_loser_law That kind of law is baffling. If a very popular candidate were manoeuvred out by the party, they could not force a challenge in the same election. This hinders changing political parties. If you try to go through the in-party process for the change, you are forced to wait years for the next one in case that party plays dirty. If you run outside the party, you are easily labelled as a useful idiot who is acting as a spoiler. Parties are, of course, allowed to kick people out for running as independents and block funding. However, I honestly believe that the threat of a popular candidate splitting from the party is the only way the two parties will change. Especially in situations where the party has a very large tent and is willing to ignore people because they have no other options.
I'm not really baffled by it, as it's trying to address a potential situation that's hard to navigate. On one hand, a party could sabotage a candidate they don't like, and make it so that the candidate can't truly run; on the other hand, a second-place candidate could single-handedly sabotage the election if they hold a grudge. Both scenarios are alarming to me, since they require all candidates and all parties to approach elections in good faith. I don't really know if one of these scenarios is more worrisome (or significantly more likely) than the other, for the average state election.
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On October 17 2025 18:52 EnDeR_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2025 18:08 Gorsameth wrote:On October 17 2025 08:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:It's super scummy that Cuomo is running as an independent, which could theoretically be a spoiler candidate for the Democratic nominee, Mamdani. Democrats fear progressives replacing them more then they fear Republicans winning. Nothing new. This is just bullshit. I'm not informed enough about this, but is the DNC doing anything about this at all? As in, are they running ads for Mamdani and shitting on Cuomo, or what's the deal here? The Democrat's leader in the House, that happens to serve a district in NYC where Mamdani is running, still hasn't even endorsed his party's nominee (Mamdani). Neither has the Democrat leader in the Senate, that also happens to be representing New York.
That's Democrat leadership in a nutshell.
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On October 17 2025 21:40 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2025 18:52 EnDeR_ wrote:On October 17 2025 18:08 Gorsameth wrote:On October 17 2025 08:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:It's super scummy that Cuomo is running as an independent, which could theoretically be a spoiler candidate for the Democratic nominee, Mamdani. Democrats fear progressives replacing them more then they fear Republicans winning. Nothing new. This is just bullshit. I'm not informed enough about this, but is the DNC doing anything about this at all? As in, are they running ads for Mamdani and shitting on Cuomo, or what's the deal here? The Democrat's leader in the House, that happens to serve a district in NYC where Mamdani is running, still hasn't even endorsed his party's nominee (Mamdani). Neither has the Democrat leader in the Senate, that also happens to be representing New York. That's Democrat leadership in a nutshell.
The New York governor, Kathy Hochul (Democrat), did endorse him though, which might mean more to New York voters than a Congressional endorsement. She's the leader / Democratic leader of the state, so hopefully that counts for something!
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given how unpopular Dems are - and Schumer/Jeffries are the faces of this unpopularity - this is a clear plus for Mamdani.
watched a bit of the NYC debate... oh boy. gerontocracy is real if not for the "dangerous Hamas loving Muslim" lol. who somehow is still very much electable for NY jews. funny that.
Sliwa being the best Republicans can come up with also speaks volumes.
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On October 17 2025 23:51 Doublemint wrote: given how unpopular Dems are - and Schumer/Jeffries are the faces of this unpopularity - this is a clear plus for Mamdani.
watched a bit of the NYC debate... oh boy. gerontocracy is real if not for the "dangerous Hamas loving Muslim" lol. who somehow is still very much electable for NY jews. funny that.
Sliwa being the best Republicans can come up with also speaks volumes. Yeah I mean Mamdani's shtick I don't think is helped by having establishment dems in his corner. Hes already up by double digits and running great guns on his campaign. He ran a scavenger hunt throughout new york's public transit. That shit is what social media craves. His promos on social media have been great and such a wild contrast to politics as normal. He stated that new yorkers were not ready for a 33 year old mayor, so he resolved to become 34 this weekend.
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