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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
October 17 2025 23:32 GMT
#106361
I don't think he'll be able to slip under the radar a second time, but in these crazy days anything is possible.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46129 Posts
October 17 2025 23:38 GMT
#106362
George Santos might not be able to slip under the radar, but I bet Georgina Santorini could!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
October 17 2025 23:55 GMT
#106363
Shame. Pardoning Santos? Wtf.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44126 Posts
October 18 2025 00:03 GMT
#106364
He’s a national hero. First man on Mars. Six time Olympic gold medalist in six different events.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1907 Posts
October 18 2025 00:10 GMT
#106365
Trump is just making it VERY clear that if you go against him, he will imprison you and if you suck up to him he will free you from crimes you are guilty of.

Loyalty over character and competency.

Even cult members should be starting to get worried.
Hat Trick of Today
Profile Joined February 2025
201 Posts
October 18 2025 00:12 GMT
#106366
Santos did a victimless crime and he’s the perfect example of modern day American entrepreneurship. Justified pardon imo.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8758 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-18 06:47:36
October 18 2025 06:45 GMT
#106367
On October 18 2025 07:22 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2025 23:51 Doublemint wrote:
Sliwa being the best Republicans can come up with also speaks volumes.

Setting aside the dearth of highly qualified politicians in the Republican party to begin with... there aren't many who would be willing to try to win in NYC and I can't really blame them.


I guess. Giuliani/Bloomberg is not that long ago though I feel like.

on the other hand, time seemingly flies even faster nowadays. the amount of technological changes leading to cultural and economic ones... and those feed on each other to speed things up in actuality with people glued to screens connecting us to fevered egos and fake representations of people... enhanced by every trick in the bookAi bag of tricks...

long story short I think my feelings are wrong and 10-20 years ago is basically another era. kids today grow up in interesting times with highly interesting challenges.

On October 18 2025 09:10 Billyboy wrote:
Trump is just making it VERY clear that if you go against him, he will imprison you and if you suck up to him he will free you from crimes you are guilty of.

Loyalty over character and competency.

Even cult members should be starting to get worried.


if only... pardoning criminals is a whole 'nother ball game. character and competency are always in doubt depending on who you ask.

when losing sight on the actual heinous and criminal shit those things become just mere after thoughts as the floodgates of hell are opened.

who is next? Ghislaine maybe, Diddy? heck if you ask Trump about Epstein, a guy he never really knew of course who received handwritten birthday notes Trump totally never wrote about salacious perv shit about young women, you might come to the conclusion that it was all just a big hoax.

worthy of a pardon really if you think about it, too bad a good man died in prison for nothing - Democrats & the Clintons at it again!
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2824 Posts
October 18 2025 10:15 GMT
#106368
The normalisation of corruption is a bigger problem than any of Trump's actual polices.
Combined with ignoring the national debt these are problems that can turn the US from a super power to a regional power in a decade or two.
Debt can be dealt with but not in a corrupt society.

The poor economic policy is only a short term problem speeding it up.

I honestly think the US time as the most powerful country on earth is on a timer. China is doing a lot of things to strengthen them long term while the US are dumping every advantage they have.
A poor resolution in Ukraine and regional powers get nukes. One decade of mismanagement later and there won't be money for an up to date overwhelming global military presence. After that American corporations gets shafted abroad because they run their business with the assumption of American hegemony.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18328 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-18 13:54:38
October 18 2025 11:51 GMT
#106369
On October 18 2025 09:12 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
Santos did a victimless crime and he’s the perfect example of modern day American entrepreneurship. Justified pardon imo.

How is it victimless? If I had been duped by Santos into voting for him based on what he claimed were his achievements, I'd feel like a victim. And as a taxpayer you should feel like a victim for him trying to take your taxes as a salary payment through fraud.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-18 11:58:35
October 18 2025 11:58 GMT
#106370
I think it was just a joke calling his crimes victimless. My parents are in his former district, and they didn't vote for him, but they didn't realize how off-the-walls he was until after the election as well.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
1033 Posts
October 18 2025 12:08 GMT
#106371
Anyone else expects some interesting things happening due to planned no kings protests? Given current climate in US I will be very surprised if at least some of them wont go into riot mode at the very least. Inclined to get my popcorn ready.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-18 12:09:29
October 18 2025 12:09 GMT
#106372
On October 18 2025 21:08 Razyda wrote:
Anyone else expects some interesting things happening due to planned no kings protests? Given current climate in US I will be very surprised if at least some of them wont go into riot mode at the very least. Inclined to get my popcorn ready.

So you find the threat of violence entertaining?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-18 12:10:37
October 18 2025 12:10 GMT
#106373
They didn't go into riot mode last time, right? Perhaps Trump considers that a missed opportunity? He's trying to paint the protests against him as "anti-America" protests, so perhaps he'll try to egg protesters into rioting somehow.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11903 Posts
October 18 2025 12:31 GMT
#106374
On October 18 2025 21:10 micronesia wrote:
They didn't go into riot mode last time, right? Perhaps Trump considers that a missed opportunity? He's trying to paint the protests against him as "anti-America" protests, so perhaps he'll try to egg protesters into rioting somehow.


Afaik infiltrating protests like that with agent provocateurs is also a common thing autocrats love to do. I just don't think Trump is competent enough to do that and not brag about it in front of cameras immediately, but maybe one of his underlings will get that done.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
October 18 2025 12:47 GMT
#106375
On October 18 2025 21:09 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2025 21:08 Razyda wrote:
Anyone else expects some interesting things happening due to planned no kings protests? Given current climate in US I will be very surprised if at least some of them wont go into riot mode at the very least. Inclined to get my popcorn ready.

So you find the threat of violence entertaining?



Hes a bad person. Its not even worth replying to any of the posts at this point.

Maybe one day he can be redeemed
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22403 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-18 12:58:00
October 18 2025 12:52 GMT
#106376
The signs for a rapidly approaching dictatorship are present.
Pardoning or condemning based on political affiliation, and the absence of habeas corpus in some cases…

Moreover, economic destabilization through political control of central banking and tariffs.
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
October 18 2025 13:18 GMT
#106377
On October 18 2025 21:10 micronesia wrote:
They didn't go into riot mode last time, right? Perhaps Trump considers that a missed opportunity? He's trying to paint the protests against him as "anti-America" protests, so perhaps he'll try to egg protesters into rioting somehow.

The No Kings protest in my town happens every two weeks and I haven’t heard about things turning violent yet. If this one does, it won’t be hard to tell what changed.

It makes sense, though, that this administration would consider citizens openly opposing monarchy to be an existential threat.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1157 Posts
October 18 2025 14:00 GMT
#106378
Trump: Might give Ukraine some Tomahawks.

Putin calls.

Trump: Ukraine has to give up all land held by Russia, no tomahawks

Hegseth: Wears a russian-flag tie to meet Selenskijy.

My consipracy theory:

Putin has an aborted Donald-Ivanka fetus on ice in moscow, or something of that magnitude.




"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24051 Posts
October 18 2025 14:26 GMT
#106379
Should I go to my local No Kings protest? Are any of you going?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6254 Posts
October 18 2025 14:32 GMT
#106380
On October 18 2025 15:45 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2025 07:22 micronesia wrote:
On October 17 2025 23:51 Doublemint wrote:
Sliwa being the best Republicans can come up with also speaks volumes.

Setting aside the dearth of highly qualified politicians in the Republican party to begin with... there aren't many who would be willing to try to win in NYC and I can't really blame them.


I guess. Giuliani/Bloomberg is not that long ago though I feel like.

on the other hand, time seemingly flies even faster nowadays. the amount of technological changes leading to cultural and economic ones... and those feed on each other to speed things up in actuality with people glued to screens connecting us to fevered egos and fake representations of people... enhanced by every trick in the bookAi bag of tricks...

long story short I think my feelings are wrong and 10-20 years ago is basically another era. kids today grow up in interesting times with highly interesting challenges.

There's not an obvious natural maverick right now in NYC politics that could rise up and take the mayorship for Republicans, and otherwise it's just not competitive. It would be a figure like a Giuliani type though who had accomplishments as a prosecutor first. Maybe one is hiding and will come out. And from the top down, the GOP is not going to put a strong candidate in NYC because the money and time is a waste when it's not competitive - and it establishes a losing record for an otherwise good candidate who should be somewhere else.

NY State is a different story. The reason is there are a lot more people upstate who do, or can, vote Republican. And they have dissatisfaction from the state needing to bail out the city and the city dominating policy. Zeldin closed the gap in the gubernatorial race a lot in 2022. The right horse in 2026 can make it a 50/50 flip easily.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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