|
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting! NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.
Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread |
On March 11 2026 03:57 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2026 22:25 Jankisa wrote:
At this point, the responsible thing for China, as the new world hegemon would be to leak everything they have on Trump and his cronies, if that doesn't work do a special military operation in the same style as Maduro raid and fly the orange fucker to a prison in China. I'm sure no one would expect a helicopter raid on Mara Lago.
According to the Trump regime interpretation of international law, that would be perfectly legal. If Trump were half the fascist you promote him to be, that would literally be the only way to do it, and you would support it. Announce war -> he nukes you first. Have the communist party congress vote on war and then declare war -> he nukes you. Have the international community approve very internationally legal mechanisms to remove him (in a hypothetical world where you could authorize a war against someone in the UN Security Council which is the only current "international" framework) -> everybody nuked. Now imagine that, but for real, and in Iran, and thankfully without the nukes yet. You have a dictator who sponsors terror and believes his own death would be a victory. International community's response? Crickets. An international community that "prohibits" war but otherwise can't stop states from doing and supporting terrorism and each other, it's pathetic. It's like the school that suspends the guy who punches the bully back. The first problem was the bullying and if you can't address that, the beautiful orderly international authority is a meaningless paper moon. "International law" which the West invented exists to help stop countries like Iran and Iraq from having 10 year wars with each other. Not to stop the USA from making sure Iran never attacks anyone again when international law repeatedly fails.
I like how you quoted up to a point in my post where I talk about why I think Trump is so dangerous now, makes it seem like you might sympathize with this opinion (especially since it's coming from a fellow traveler of yours Nick Fuentes), on top of all the rest of what he represents and is. And yes, I would support it as an answer to a belligerent head of a superpower who is very obviously a fascist.
As Yourie said, yup, we had that, under JCPOE, under international law, things were going pretty well until Trump came in, nuked the deal, hellfired Soleimani and started this spiral.
|
On March 11 2026 03:11 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2026 01:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 11 2026 01:24 Jankisa wrote:
The rise of "prediction markets", so Polymarket and Kalshi has been enabled by 2 things, first was Trump legalizing gambling in 2018 and Crypto becoming a regulated and recognized "industry".
I don't think things like this would have been possible because the "gameification" of everything wasn't a big thing back then, with these 2 things I mentioned the ability for people to become corrupt has been supercharged. Betting has had a horrible effect on sports, prediction markets are now actively having a horrible effect on the world.
Of course, stock trading, insider trading and information "shadow broker" economy has been a thing forever, as evidenced by UK actually arresting some people who engaged in this kind of shit with Epstein, who, by the way, had a lot to say about gamefication, crypto and all of this, giving advice to Bobby Kotick on loot boxes, being fascinated and helping Bannon and Brock Pierce with the "wow gold farms" etc.
Now, the prediction markets and crypto "businesses" like World liberty financial, which shuffled insane amounts of money between Binance, Saudis, Witkoffs and Trumps to the tune of enriching Trump and trippling his net worth, but no one cares because they are much more focused on locking up and throwing out brown people at home and engaging in the age old American tradition of blowing up brown people in the Middle East. Ironically, Trump is helping unmask the subtle corruption that's been long-standing by being so much more blatant. It's not like Deutsche Bank is a secret organization, but there's hardly a significant international financial crime (including Epstein) they aren't linked to. At some point Europe is going to have to confront its complicity in what Trump's doing and decide if they are going to let him and their politicians lead them into their own demise. What do you expect Europe to do? At what point do you just concede your advocacy for accelerationism has just roundly failed and wasn’t a great idea?
As an European, I don't think he's wrong. I've seen it everywhere, I've even quit a job because they were selling data to scammers (their most profitable customer, couldn't afford to cut the deal. go figure) .
Literally last week found a reputable news article peddling a scam website - they were paid for an ad piece after all...
We all have to go on with our lives. I'm not plotting to overthrow my government.
but the fire in me keeps burning hotter and hotter.
So yeah - we've all become too comfortable with allowing it to happen and turning a blind eye to the small things. And the small things keep getting bigger and more frequent. When is enough is enough.
At some point, the people that represent us should say enough is enough. Take the bank down and arrest the managers responsible for this.
|
On March 11 2026 04:59 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2026 03:31 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 11 2026 03:11 WombaT wrote:On March 11 2026 01:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 11 2026 01:24 Jankisa wrote:
The rise of "prediction markets", so Polymarket and Kalshi has been enabled by 2 things, first was Trump legalizing gambling in 2018 and Crypto becoming a regulated and recognized "industry".
I don't think things like this would have been possible because the "gameification" of everything wasn't a big thing back then, with these 2 things I mentioned the ability for people to become corrupt has been supercharged. Betting has had a horrible effect on sports, prediction markets are now actively having a horrible effect on the world.
Of course, stock trading, insider trading and information "shadow broker" economy has been a thing forever, as evidenced by UK actually arresting some people who engaged in this kind of shit with Epstein, who, by the way, had a lot to say about gamefication, crypto and all of this, giving advice to Bobby Kotick on loot boxes, being fascinated and helping Bannon and Brock Pierce with the "wow gold farms" etc.
Now, the prediction markets and crypto "businesses" like World liberty financial, which shuffled insane amounts of money between Binance, Saudis, Witkoffs and Trumps to the tune of enriching Trump and trippling his net worth, but no one cares because they are much more focused on locking up and throwing out brown people at home and engaging in the age old American tradition of blowing up brown people in the Middle East. Ironically, Trump is helping unmask the subtle corruption that's been long-standing by being so much more blatant. It's not like Deutsche Bank is a secret organization, but there's hardly a significant international financial crime (including Epstein) they aren't linked to. At some point Europe is going to have to confront its complicity in what Trump's doing and decide if they are going to let him and their politicians lead them into their own demise. What do you expect Europe to do? At what point do you just concede your advocacy for accelerationism has just roundly failed and wasn’t a great idea? You guys are ostensibly the last bastion of democracy where the people have the ability to choose not to continue appeasing/aiding and abetting a fascist US that's illegally at war bombing and kidnapping world leaders while talking about invading/conquering/installing puppet governments in various countries. But you know, so long as they've got "pretty tolerable lives" this will just be the new "background corruption". At least Niemöller could honestly say he didn't know better. I didn't/don't advocate accelerationism. We're not, Europe is on the same trajectory as the US just a little behind the curve. Give it several more years of brain-cooking algorithms and we'll be there. In the meantime, while the liberals are still in charge, no serious action will be taken. The EU system is set up in such a way that decisive controversial action can never pass all the checks. The only plan right now is to hope the US fascists allow relatively unrigged voting and that the % of votes they block/steal is a little lower than the % of voters that learned something in the past year. Other than that, the EU will attempt to slowly become less dependent on US tech services and military hardware, but that's going to take a lot more time than we have. We still need a few more years to be fully rid of Russian energy, if you're thinking sanctions on the US it's not happening. Not even if they take Greenland by force. Maybe Canda. Don't look at Europe for answers or help, you'll be disappointed. Only China has the necessary set-up for any courageous action, as we saw during the tariff soap opera.
Are these the conclusions other Europeans here are reaching?
|
On March 11 2026 07:37 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2026 04:59 Dan HH wrote:On March 11 2026 03:31 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 11 2026 03:11 WombaT wrote:On March 11 2026 01:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 11 2026 01:24 Jankisa wrote:
The rise of "prediction markets", so Polymarket and Kalshi has been enabled by 2 things, first was Trump legalizing gambling in 2018 and Crypto becoming a regulated and recognized "industry".
I don't think things like this would have been possible because the "gameification" of everything wasn't a big thing back then, with these 2 things I mentioned the ability for people to become corrupt has been supercharged. Betting has had a horrible effect on sports, prediction markets are now actively having a horrible effect on the world.
Of course, stock trading, insider trading and information "shadow broker" economy has been a thing forever, as evidenced by UK actually arresting some people who engaged in this kind of shit with Epstein, who, by the way, had a lot to say about gamefication, crypto and all of this, giving advice to Bobby Kotick on loot boxes, being fascinated and helping Bannon and Brock Pierce with the "wow gold farms" etc.
Now, the prediction markets and crypto "businesses" like World liberty financial, which shuffled insane amounts of money between Binance, Saudis, Witkoffs and Trumps to the tune of enriching Trump and trippling his net worth, but no one cares because they are much more focused on locking up and throwing out brown people at home and engaging in the age old American tradition of blowing up brown people in the Middle East. Ironically, Trump is helping unmask the subtle corruption that's been long-standing by being so much more blatant. It's not like Deutsche Bank is a secret organization, but there's hardly a significant international financial crime (including Epstein) they aren't linked to. At some point Europe is going to have to confront its complicity in what Trump's doing and decide if they are going to let him and their politicians lead them into their own demise. What do you expect Europe to do? At what point do you just concede your advocacy for accelerationism has just roundly failed and wasn’t a great idea? You guys are ostensibly the last bastion of democracy where the people have the ability to choose not to continue appeasing/aiding and abetting a fascist US that's illegally at war bombing and kidnapping world leaders while talking about invading/conquering/installing puppet governments in various countries. But you know, so long as they've got "pretty tolerable lives" this will just be the new "background corruption". At least Niemöller could honestly say he didn't know better. I didn't/don't advocate accelerationism. We're not, Europe is on the same trajectory as the US just a little behind the curve. Give it several more years of brain-cooking algorithms and we'll be there. In the meantime, while the liberals are still in charge, no serious action will be taken. The EU system is set up in such a way that decisive controversial action can never pass all the checks. The only plan right now is to hope the US fascists allow relatively unrigged voting and that the % of votes they block/steal is a little lower than the % of voters that learned something in the past year. Other than that, the EU will attempt to slowly become less dependent on US tech services and military hardware, but that's going to take a lot more time than we have. We still need a few more years to be fully rid of Russian energy, if you're thinking sanctions on the US it's not happening. Not even if they take Greenland by force. Maybe Canda. Don't look at Europe for answers or help, you'll be disappointed. Only China has the necessary set-up for any courageous action, as we saw during the tariff soap opera. Are these the conclusions other Europeans here are reaching?
Yes, unfortunately. For example, take the Spain denying the US the use of the bases for Iran war. No way the EU would allow all countries to do that. I wish Portugal would've done the same with Lajes but ofc it didn't happen
|
On March 11 2026 07:37 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2026 04:59 Dan HH wrote:On March 11 2026 03:31 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 11 2026 03:11 WombaT wrote:On March 11 2026 01:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 11 2026 01:24 Jankisa wrote:
The rise of "prediction markets", so Polymarket and Kalshi has been enabled by 2 things, first was Trump legalizing gambling in 2018 and Crypto becoming a regulated and recognized "industry".
I don't think things like this would have been possible because the "gameification" of everything wasn't a big thing back then, with these 2 things I mentioned the ability for people to become corrupt has been supercharged. Betting has had a horrible effect on sports, prediction markets are now actively having a horrible effect on the world.
Of course, stock trading, insider trading and information "shadow broker" economy has been a thing forever, as evidenced by UK actually arresting some people who engaged in this kind of shit with Epstein, who, by the way, had a lot to say about gamefication, crypto and all of this, giving advice to Bobby Kotick on loot boxes, being fascinated and helping Bannon and Brock Pierce with the "wow gold farms" etc.
Now, the prediction markets and crypto "businesses" like World liberty financial, which shuffled insane amounts of money between Binance, Saudis, Witkoffs and Trumps to the tune of enriching Trump and trippling his net worth, but no one cares because they are much more focused on locking up and throwing out brown people at home and engaging in the age old American tradition of blowing up brown people in the Middle East. Ironically, Trump is helping unmask the subtle corruption that's been long-standing by being so much more blatant. It's not like Deutsche Bank is a secret organization, but there's hardly a significant international financial crime (including Epstein) they aren't linked to. At some point Europe is going to have to confront its complicity in what Trump's doing and decide if they are going to let him and their politicians lead them into their own demise. What do you expect Europe to do? At what point do you just concede your advocacy for accelerationism has just roundly failed and wasn’t a great idea? You guys are ostensibly the last bastion of democracy where the people have the ability to choose not to continue appeasing/aiding and abetting a fascist US that's illegally at war bombing and kidnapping world leaders while talking about invading/conquering/installing puppet governments in various countries. But you know, so long as they've got "pretty tolerable lives" this will just be the new "background corruption". At least Niemöller could honestly say he didn't know better. I didn't/don't advocate accelerationism. We're not, Europe is on the same trajectory as the US just a little behind the curve. Give it several more years of brain-cooking algorithms and we'll be there. In the meantime, while the liberals are still in charge, no serious action will be taken. The EU system is set up in such a way that decisive controversial action can never pass all the checks. The only plan right now is to hope the US fascists allow relatively unrigged voting and that the % of votes they block/steal is a little lower than the % of voters that learned something in the past year. Other than that, the EU will attempt to slowly become less dependent on US tech services and military hardware, but that's going to take a lot more time than we have. We still need a few more years to be fully rid of Russian energy, if you're thinking sanctions on the US it's not happening. Not even if they take Greenland by force. Maybe Canda. Don't look at Europe for answers or help, you'll be disappointed. Only China has the necessary set-up for any courageous action, as we saw during the tariff soap opera. Are these the conclusions other Europeans here are reaching?
Youd could watch von der Leyen response to understand a little better what's going on. Dissappointment probably falls short. Spain doing the right thing is "electoralism".
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
