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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1808 Posts
2 hours ago
#105641
On September 29 2025 06:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
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On September 29 2025 04:52 KwarK wrote:
I feel like maybe using the army on political enemies is some kind of political violence. The army are the ones with the bang sticks and the metal box cars, right? Isn’t violence their specialty? And isn’t the Portland thing political?

This is the kind of thing I meant when I was saying that conservatives excuse their political violence because they sheath it in the state. But the state doesn’t make the violence legitimate, the violence makes the state illegitimate. There is an absolute shitload of conservative right wing violence in the US and there always has been.

Firstly, this is ill defined and vague. Secondly, you can easily shuffle around definitions and label almost anything political violence.

Here is a simple example about an ongoing legal back and forth between the state and the gay communities in Canada and the USA. Specifically , the battle over whether or not poppers should be legal. The state's actions can easily be framed as "political violence".

When A Sex Shop that sells poppers is closed down and the owner arrested in Toronto's gay village that can be framed as "political violence" by the state against innocent gay men. Poppers are illegal in Canada and the USA. According to gay men the law about poppers and its enforcement are political violence. In their view poppers should be legal. Any time the state shuts down a poppers manufacturing centre ... that is political violence according to gay rights activists.

I don't think a sex shop getting shut down and the owner arrested is an example of political violence. I can see why some people frame it that way though.

So you're making a vague statement about an ill defined activity, namely, political violence.


I want the seconds I spent reading this comment returned to me.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21830 Posts
2 hours ago
#105642
On September 29 2025 06:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2025 04:52 KwarK wrote:
I feel like maybe using the army on political enemies is some kind of political violence. The army are the ones with the bang sticks and the metal box cars, right? Isn’t violence their specialty? And isn’t the Portland thing political?

This is the kind of thing I meant when I was saying that conservatives excuse their political violence because they sheath it in the state. But the state doesn’t make the violence legitimate, the violence makes the state illegitimate. There is an absolute shitload of conservative right wing violence in the US and there always has been.

Firstly, this is ill defined and vague. Secondly, you can easily shuffle around definitions and label almost anything political violence.

Here is a simple example about an ongoing legal back and forth between the state and the gay communities in Canada and the USA. Specifically , the battle over whether or not poppers should be legal. The state's actions can easily be framed as "political violence".

When A Sex Shop that sells poppers is closed down and the owner arrested in Toronto's gay village that can be framed as "political violence" by the state against innocent gay men. Poppers are illegal in Canada and the USA. According to gay men the law about poppers and its enforcement are political violence. In their view poppers should be legal. Any time the state shuts down a poppers manufacturing centre ... that is political violence according to gay rights activists.

I don't think a sex shop getting shut down and the owner arrested is an example of political violence. I can see why some people frame it that way though.

So you're making a vague statement about an ill defined activity, namely, political violence.
Before Trump had it removed after Charlie Kirks death a report from the FBI concluded that
“Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

Its not vague or ill defined. Law enforcement absolutely agrees with Kwarks statement.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2583 Posts
3 minutes ago
#105643
On September 29 2025 06:42 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2025 06:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On September 29 2025 04:52 KwarK wrote:
I feel like maybe using the army on political enemies is some kind of political violence. The army are the ones with the bang sticks and the metal box cars, right? Isn’t violence their specialty? And isn’t the Portland thing political?

This is the kind of thing I meant when I was saying that conservatives excuse their political violence because they sheath it in the state. But the state doesn’t make the violence legitimate, the violence makes the state illegitimate. There is an absolute shitload of conservative right wing violence in the US and there always has been.

Firstly, this is ill defined and vague. Secondly, you can easily shuffle around definitions and label almost anything political violence.

Here is a simple example about an ongoing legal back and forth between the state and the gay communities in Canada and the USA. Specifically , the battle over whether or not poppers should be legal. The state's actions can easily be framed as "political violence".

When A Sex Shop that sells poppers is closed down and the owner arrested in Toronto's gay village that can be framed as "political violence" by the state against innocent gay men. Poppers are illegal in Canada and the USA. According to gay men the law about poppers and its enforcement are political violence. In their view poppers should be legal. Any time the state shuts down a poppers manufacturing centre ... that is political violence according to gay rights activists.

I don't think a sex shop getting shut down and the owner arrested is an example of political violence. I can see why some people frame it that way though.

So you're making a vague statement about an ill defined activity, namely, political violence.


I want the seconds I spent reading this comment returned to me.


I read six words, the sixth being after my 'waitaminute, who wrote this' and realizing it was our lad JimmyJ. I then scrolled past it, and would encourage anyone to do the same.
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