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Legan
Finland459 Posts
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Phyanketto
United States564 Posts
On September 28 2025 07:11 Legan wrote: These military deployments and ICE camps will be impossible to teach about for decades, as they will stay controversial for as long. People who supported the Confederacy had to develop and popularise the Lost Cause myth to avoid admitting having fought for slavery. A similar approach is most likely to occur in response to current events. However, I am unsure if any country has ever fully confronted its past atrocities. Japan has not done it. The USA has not done it. Brittain, France and other Europeans have not done it. It seems incredibly destructive to any identity as one would have to accept that their friends, families, relatives, co-workers and so on have done horrific acts. It seems that the general response is to deny, distract, and delay until it is too late to take action. The most significant difference this time will be that many more have been aware of the actions and have recognised them as evil. When the time comes, one can only hope that those people will be listened to and not ignored in the name of unity. even reconstruction and denazification were nowhere near as clean as they've been made out to be. Cognitohazard ideologies that are memes in the Dawkins sense (self-propogating, self-defending ideas) don't just suddenly go away. I would be genuinely surprised if there was a way to depolarize at this point, and even on the left people are sick of hearing about the ongoing atrocities. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23336 Posts
On September 28 2025 04:48 Mohdoo wrote: Probably nothing. But who knows. Guess we’ll see. There will be plenty of protestors to join if you decide to make the trip down from Seattle Should there be protests? What kind should there be? Should elected Democrats be promoting them, opposing them, neither? What goals/demands should they have? What would success look like? How could people be working toward that success? Anyone/everyone is free to opine | ||
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Simberto
Germany11568 Posts
On September 28 2025 07:11 Legan wrote: These military deployments and ICE camps will be impossible to teach about for decades, as they will stay controversial for as long. People who supported the Confederacy had to develop and popularise the Lost Cause myth to avoid admitting having fought for slavery. A similar approach is most likely to occur in response to current events. However, I am unsure if any country has ever fully confronted its past atrocities. Japan has not done it. The USA has not done it. Brittain, France and other Europeans have not done it. It seems incredibly destructive to any identity as one would have to accept that their friends, families, relatives, co-workers and so on have done horrific acts. It seems that the general response is to deny, distract, and delay until it is too late to take action. The most significant difference this time will be that many more have been aware of the actions and have recognised them as evil. When the time comes, one can only hope that those people will be listened to and not ignored in the name of unity. Germany is pretty good at confronting its WW2 atrocities. But some of that is through the trick of distinguishing between "The Nazis" and "The Germans". It feels easier to accept that "The Nazis" did a lot of bad stuff than if it was "The Germans". And even then, we still have revisionists going around who try to diminish the absolute horrors of the holocaust, and hard-right extremists are becoming more popular again, too. So even the pretty comprehensive dealing with our horrific history, brought upon us through a devastatingly obviously lost war, didn't completely inoculate all of us against going into those directions again. | ||
micronesia
United States24704 Posts
On September 28 2025 07:35 Simberto wrote: Germany is pretty good at confronting its WW2 atrocities. But some of that is through the trick of distinguishing between "The Nazis" and "The Germans". It feels easier to accept that "The Nazis" did a lot of bad stuff than if it was "The Germans". The interesting question (which I don't immediately know the answer to) is how many decades it took to accomplish it. | ||
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Phyanketto
United States564 Posts
On September 28 2025 07:39 micronesia wrote: The interesting question (which I don't immediately know the answer to) is how many decades it took to accomplish it. www.youtube.com a while | ||
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Sent.
Poland9225 Posts
This matter is much more complex in the US because it's a huge country and I have no idea how Norwegian or German Americans in North Dakota should feel about what can be expected from them in regard to slavery in America before their ancestors left Europe. | ||
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